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RedForeman ©® February 16th 04 02:34 PM

On Sunday
 
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped.... it
will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®



T February 16th 04 05:24 PM

On Sunday
 
Aw, Red.. That is so sad, I can only imagine how the Parents must feel. My
kids are my life, and I live for them, I could not imagine what I would feel
like if I lost eithier one of them. May the Lord bring some comfort to the
family.

Tim...


"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped....

it
will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®





coelacanth February 16th 04 06:21 PM

On Sunday
 
RedForeman ©® wrote:
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you,
Nicholas passed away.... Mother and Father returned home...
which could prove to be the hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL
helped.... it will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®

I'm so sorry to hear this, Red. Our thoughts are with
them (and you). I'm off to give my kids a big hug.



Keith J. February 16th 04 10:33 PM

On Sunday
 

"coelacanth" wrote in message
om...

I'm so sorry to hear this, Red. Our thoughts are with
them (and you). I'm off to give my kids a big hug.


I don't have any kids, so off to hug the fish.

Then again, maybe not ...




John > February 17th 04 02:21 AM

On Sunday
 
Nicholas or Jacob??? Either way, I believe he is in Heaven. My prayers are
for the parents.

JOhn


The pediatrician walks out and explains that Jacob has a condition, that

is
inhibiting his heart to continue it's usual electric activity and ability

to
transmit such electricity. For children, this is fatal. Jacob was put on

a
ventilator, planned to be taken off sometime this afternoon....


"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped....

it
will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®





Dinky February 17th 04 04:44 AM

On Sunday
 
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped....

it
will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®



Not supposed to outlive the kids. Sorry to hear that, Red.

billy



JohnR February 17th 04 05:41 AM

On Sunday
 
I grieve with the family for the lose of one so young!
My Prayers are with the family and to you to red!
Thanks for keeping us informed

John
"Dinky" wrote in message
nk.net...
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas

passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped....

it
will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®



Not supposed to outlive the kids. Sorry to hear that, Red.

billy





Ralph February 17th 04 12:05 PM

On Sunday
 
Certainly, for sure, the child is in a better place now. Best regards and my
prayers to the family. May their grief be short, and they find ways to make
the best of a bad situation.

Mark
www.hydrotoys.com


"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped....

it
will not go unreturned...

--
RedForeman ©®





RedForeman ©® February 17th 04 03:10 PM

On Sunday
 
Nicholas or Jacob??? Either way, I believe he is in Heaven. My
prayers are for the parents.

JOhn


In the beginning, I stated Jacob as a privacy issue, but after the
outpouring of sincere interest to send cards, notes, etc, I corrected and
explained exactly WHY I changed the name of an innocent child... I think you
can understand that, can't you?

Either way, if you are interested in sending cards, the hospital, address
listed in another thread by me, will be forwarding all cards in the mother
and fathers name to their home.

--
RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman




[email protected] February 17th 04 05:07 PM

On Sunday
 
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....

I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped.... it
will not go unreturned...


Awww damn, I'm so sorry for you and your wife.
I think many of us felt it would work out well.


Regards,
Tom Barr

Marcia, Bethany and Me February 17th 04 05:13 PM

On Sunday
 
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas

passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be the
hardest part for them....
I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL helped....
will not go unreturned...
RedForeman ©®



"John (((\"" wrote in
message . net...
Nicholas or Jacob??? Either way, I believe he is in Heaven. My prayers

are
for the parents. JOhn


The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff



battlelance February 17th 04 05:33 PM

On Sunday
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:13:49 GMT, "Marcia, Bethany and Me"
wrote:

The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff


I believe that when we die, we end up as fertilizer as part of the
cycle of life - so, what's your point?

You know, Red asked for prayers, and I don't pray. As a matter of
fact, I'm agnostic (well, maybe more like agnothiest), and I'm not
interested in being associated with organized religion in any way...

BUT, the least I can can do is offer best wishes.

Your post, however, doesn't offer squat all, except a threat... sigh
Oh well, Usenet is full of idiots :)

DumberThanSnot February 17th 04 05:56 PM

On Sunday
 
People from all religions, non-religions, cults or whatever are expressing
feelings and thoughts about this situation. If you don't like it.... DON'T
READ IT! duh!

I have the ability to listen to people and still believe what I believe.
You can tell me all day long that the sky is green... I will nod my head and
say, "Gee, it sure is pretty isn't it." I will still believe that the sky
is blue and you will still have your beliefs intact without even having one
ill word. Is that ability beyond you?

It seems as if though your religion is teaching you the wrong things about
humanity. Humanity, by the way, is made up of a gazillion different
religions. Your religion apparently teaches threatening someone to do what
you want or you'll do as much damage as possible... doesn't sound very
friendly to me. Learn not to hate...

Red... I for one am glad you posted about the child. it helped remind me
to take life a bit less serious with work and take a softer stance with
other situations before me.

Thanks bud,
-brian


"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
news:hZrYb.526943$JQ1.456744@pd7tw1no...
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas

passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be

the
hardest part for them....
I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL

helped....
will not go unreturned...
RedForeman ©®



"John (((\"" wrote in
message . net...
Nicholas or Jacob??? Either way, I believe he is in Heaven. My prayers

are
for the parents. JOhn


The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff





DumberThanSnot February 17th 04 06:01 PM

On Sunday
 
By the way... I like the name Bethany... My best friends wife is named
Bethany, she's one of the sweetest people I've ever met. If my wife and I
ever have another child (hopefully a girl, cuz I don't think a boy would
last too long with a name like that, heh), I think I would like that name
for her. Maybe my bud's wife being who she is made me like it a lot more...
that plus it's unique.

-brian


"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
news:hZrYb.526943$JQ1.456744@pd7tw1no...
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas

passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be

the
hardest part for them....
I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL

helped....
will not go unreturned...
RedForeman ©®



"John (((\"" wrote in
message . net...
Nicholas or Jacob??? Either way, I believe he is in Heaven. My prayers

are
for the parents. JOhn


The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff





RedForeman ©® February 17th 04 06:16 PM

On Sunday
 
Red... I for one am glad you posted about the child. it helped remind
me
to take life a bit less serious with work and take a softer stance with
other situations before me.

Thanks bud,
-brian


Thanks.... that was the exact point of, support and prayers... If you don't
pray, you can support.. If nothing else, think positive... and above all
else, keep your priorities straight.... bikes, fish, atvs, are all hobbies
as it was so well put before, this is an innocent child, and we mourn the
loss, but celebrate the life and the living... to each his own...

--
RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman



Jeff Taylor February 17th 04 07:36 PM

On Sunday
 

"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
news:JotYb.541256$X%5.142667@pd7tw2no...
"DumberThanSnot" wrote in message

I will
keep my contributions on topic and not
carry through with this threat.

-Daryl S. Kabatoff


BIOYA!

HTH,
Jeff T.



Chris Blastin February 17th 04 07:57 PM

On Sunday
 
So sorry to hear that.

The loss of a child is most certainly the hardest thing to ever have to deal
with. I wouldn't even wish it on my greatest enemy.

I lost a baby girl when I was very young, she was stillborn, and the grief
never really struck me until I was much older and had another baby boy. The
new baby boy looked very much like his sister, and it brought out alot of
the sadness I should have had when I was younger.

My heart goes out to the family and yourself.

Chris Blastin



rtk February 17th 04 08:23 PM

On Sunday
 
Most of my newsgroup participation has been on the triathlon newsgroup,
but as a keeper of fish, ponds, and herps, I have lurked a good deal on
those appropriate groups. That's not many, but enough to observe that
no matter what the subject, it sometimes happens that something in a
poster's life, good or bad, is so overwhelming that it spills out in
unexpected places. Example: a man sent a note to rec.sport.triathlon at
2 a.m., saying he had nowhere to turn at that hour of the morning, his
little twin girls were sleeping and his family had not yet arrived to be
at his side because his wife was killed on her bicycle by a truck only
hours earlier. I know it was true because I saw him at Ironman Hawaii
racing in his wife's number. On the pond newsgroup a man called for our
prayers or thoughts because his wife and baby were missing and he was
frantic and had nowhere to turn. His emotions spilled over wherever and
it happened the computer was nearer than anyone. It is not as if
someone says to him/herself I think I'll introduce a new subject to a
newsgroup and add a few commandments just to annoy everyone. It doesn't
subtract anything from the group to be receptive and kind. Most
newsgroups digressed on 9/11 for a few days for the same reason: our
thoughts could not remain strictly on their tracks in face of such
overwhelming news. We needed to talk and everywhere was the right place.

rtk


RedForeman ©® February 17th 04 08:34 PM

On Sunday
 
Thanks.... much appreciation...

--
RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman


"rtk" wrote in message
...
Most of my newsgroup participation has been on the triathlon newsgroup,
but as a keeper of fish, ponds, and herps, I have lurked a good deal on
those appropriate groups. That's not many, but enough to observe that
no matter what the subject, it sometimes happens that something in a
poster's life, good or bad, is so overwhelming that it spills out in
unexpected places. Example: a man sent a note to rec.sport.triathlon at
2 a.m., saying he had nowhere to turn at that hour of the morning, his
little twin girls were sleeping and his family had not yet arrived to be
at his side because his wife was killed on her bicycle by a truck only
hours earlier. I know it was true because I saw him at Ironman Hawaii
racing in his wife's number. On the pond newsgroup a man called for our
prayers or thoughts because his wife and baby were missing and he was
frantic and had nowhere to turn. His emotions spilled over wherever and
it happened the computer was nearer than anyone. It is not as if
someone says to him/herself I think I'll introduce a new subject to a
newsgroup and add a few commandments just to annoy everyone. It doesn't
subtract anything from the group to be receptive and kind. Most
newsgroups digressed on 9/11 for a few days for the same reason: our
thoughts could not remain strictly on their tracks in face of such
overwhelming news. We needed to talk and everywhere was the right place.

rtk




Spdloader February 17th 04 08:43 PM

On Sunday
 
You, are obviously an idiot.

Another fine example of one person trying to decide what is best for the
everyone else.

You probably threaten the big 3 networks for television shows you personally
don't like, instead of changing the channel.

There are those in this group who are more than up to the task of dealing
with you and your threat as well, including the very person who started this
thread in the first place. Go ahead, make good on your threat.

Spdloader



"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
news:hZrYb.526943$JQ1.456744@pd7tw1no...
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
It is with heavy heart and blurry eyes, that I inform you, Nicholas

passed
away.... Mother and Father returned home... which could prove to be

the
hardest part for them....
I don't know what else to say, besides thanks guys... you ALL

helped....
will not go unreturned...
RedForeman ©®



"John (((\"" wrote in
message . net...
Nicholas or Jacob??? Either way, I believe he is in Heaven. My prayers

are
for the parents. JOhn


The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff





Spdloader February 17th 04 08:45 PM

On Sunday
 
Very well said.

Spdloader


"rtk" wrote in message
...
Most of my newsgroup participation has been on the triathlon newsgroup,
but as a keeper of fish, ponds, and herps, I have lurked a good deal on
those appropriate groups. That's not many, but enough to observe that
no matter what the subject, it sometimes happens that something in a
poster's life, good or bad, is so overwhelming that it spills out in
unexpected places. Example: a man sent a note to rec.sport.triathlon at
2 a.m., saying he had nowhere to turn at that hour of the morning, his
little twin girls were sleeping and his family had not yet arrived to be
at his side because his wife was killed on her bicycle by a truck only
hours earlier. I know it was true because I saw him at Ironman Hawaii
racing in his wife's number. On the pond newsgroup a man called for our
prayers or thoughts because his wife and baby were missing and he was
frantic and had nowhere to turn. His emotions spilled over wherever and
it happened the computer was nearer than anyone. It is not as if
someone says to him/herself I think I'll introduce a new subject to a
newsgroup and add a few commandments just to annoy everyone. It doesn't
subtract anything from the group to be receptive and kind. Most
newsgroups digressed on 9/11 for a few days for the same reason: our
thoughts could not remain strictly on their tracks in face of such
overwhelming news. We needed to talk and everywhere was the right place.

rtk




battlelance February 17th 04 08:50 PM

On Sunday
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:51:21 GMT, "Marcia, Bethany and Me"
wrote:

Duh, it's off topic, it does not belong in these group.


So when did you become the keeper of this usenet group?

Oh, right, it's unmoderated.

All some of you people have to do is to keep
requesting that these groups are not used to
push your religious doctrines, and I will
keep my contributions on topic and not
carry through with this threat.


Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some people are religious,
some are fanatics, some don't give a sweet squat. But you know what,
this thread wasn't about religion, it was about a little lad that was
very ill.

You really are an insentisive twit with a lot of spare time on your
hands!

It's a shame you're a Canadian. We're normally very tolerant of other
people, but obviously you have issues. Perhaps a bad childhood
experience? :P



DumberThanSnot February 17th 04 09:33 PM

On Sunday
 
Well said...


"rtk" wrote in message
...
Most of my newsgroup participation has been on the triathlon newsgroup,
but as a keeper of fish, ponds, and herps, I have lurked a good deal on
those appropriate groups. That's not many, but enough to observe that
no matter what the subject, it sometimes happens that something in a
poster's life, good or bad, is so overwhelming that it spills out in
unexpected places. Example: a man sent a note to rec.sport.triathlon at
2 a.m., saying he had nowhere to turn at that hour of the morning, his
little twin girls were sleeping and his family had not yet arrived to be
at his side because his wife was killed on her bicycle by a truck only
hours earlier. I know it was true because I saw him at Ironman Hawaii
racing in his wife's number. On the pond newsgroup a man called for our
prayers or thoughts because his wife and baby were missing and he was
frantic and had nowhere to turn. His emotions spilled over wherever and
it happened the computer was nearer than anyone. It is not as if
someone says to him/herself I think I'll introduce a new subject to a
newsgroup and add a few commandments just to annoy everyone. It doesn't
subtract anything from the group to be receptive and kind. Most
newsgroups digressed on 9/11 for a few days for the same reason: our
thoughts could not remain strictly on their tracks in face of such
overwhelming news. We needed to talk and everywhere was the right place.

rtk




RedForeman ©® February 17th 04 09:58 PM

On Sunday
 
Daryl Shawn Kabatoff
Box 7134
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Canada
S7K 4J1

Gee Daryl, is that YOUR address?? How interesting...

I'd hate to see what becomes of that....

....btw, still seeing images of satan and Jesus??? Keep reading revelation
and stay out of these newsgroups, unless you have something POSITIVE to
contribute...

--
RedForeman ©®
....Red (head hung low) Foreman


"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff





Marcia, Bethany and Me February 17th 04 10:50 PM

On Sunday
 
"battlelance" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:51:21 GMT, "Marcia, Bethany and Me"
wrote:

Duh, it's off topic, it does not belong in these group.


So when did you become the keeper of this usenet group?

Oh, right, it's unmoderated.

All some of you people have to do is to keep
requesting that these groups are not used to
push your religious doctrines, and I will
keep my contributions on topic and not
carry through with this threat.


Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some people are religious,
some are fanatics, some don't give a sweet squat. But you know what,
this thread wasn't about religion, it was about a little lad that was
very ill.

You really are an insentisive twit with a lot of spare time on your
hands!

It's a shame you're a Canadian. We're normally very tolerant of other
people, but obviously you have issues. Perhaps a bad childhood
experience? :P

The only real tolerance you people have is for your
traditions Seven years of psychiatric torture as a
reward for criticizing traditions in your churches,
I begged in vain for assistance to flee the country,
now you people have the audacity to call me insensitive.
God decides when your children's lives are up,
your heart chooses Sunday as your holy day,
and He chose Sunday to stop this one's heart.
I don't think it proper for people to come to
fish groups and preach that their smitten
children are in heaven and looking down upon
us, and rather than admonish the behaviour,
you people encourage it for you desire to hear
news that your own smitten kids are in heaven.
God dothn't appoint me as a keeper of your
usenet group, God appoints me to identify
and denounce the crap that pours out of your
mouths, and if your crap pours out into groups
that should be limited to carp, then I will
publicly identify it as such. -Daryl S. Kabatoff



DumberThanSnot February 17th 04 11:03 PM

On Sunday
 
Oops... that makes it look like I wrote that "threat" comment... last
thing I want is to be confused as the guy threatening hate mail... ;-)

BTW: well said! ;-)

-brian




"Jeff Taylor" wrote in message
...

"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
news:JotYb.541256$X%5.142667@pd7tw2no...
"DumberThanSnot" wrote in message

I will
keep my contributions on topic and not
carry through with this threat.

-Daryl S. Kabatoff


BIOYA!

HTH,
Jeff T.





Jeff Taylor February 17th 04 11:15 PM

On Sunday
 

"DumberThanSnot" wrote in message
...
Oops... that makes it look like I wrote that "threat" comment... last
thing I want is to be confused as the guy threatening hate mail... ;-)

BTW: well said! ;-)

-brian



My bad, sorry about that Brian. I was in a hurry and didn't snip everything
I wanted.

Jeff T.



DumberThanSnot February 17th 04 11:21 PM

On Sunday
 
no prob... ;-)


"Jeff Taylor" wrote in message
...

"DumberThanSnot" wrote in message
...
Oops... that makes it look like I wrote that "threat" comment... last
thing I want is to be confused as the guy threatening hate mail... ;-)

BTW: well said! ;-)

-brian



My bad, sorry about that Brian. I was in a hurry and didn't snip

everything
I wanted.

Jeff T.





bannor February 17th 04 11:26 PM

On Sunday
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:58:18 -0500, "RedForeman ©®"
wrote:

???? ????? ????????
Box ????
???????? Saskatchewan
Canada
??????

Gee Daryl, is that YOUR address?? How interesting...

I'd hate to see what becomes of that....

Red, I am a little surprised here... surprised that you would
encourage this 'person' by a) responding to him and b) falling to his
level or below by posting full detail information about him...

I understand YOUR pain in this entire situation but I have to admit,
that when I first caught the first message you posted, even though it
stated that it was OT... I was tempted to say something similar,
basically that it didn't belong here... then I re-read the message,
and realized who had sent it and came to the same conclusion as most
of us here have come to... that Red was in pain and needed our
encouragement and help in whatever way we could give it.

I know that most information is available, and that if you dig far
enough you can find Social Security numbers for ANY one in the USA...
but is that something that should be posted in such a wide ranging
fashion? I can't find that sort of information without a lot of
digging, and I wouldn't really want someone to dig that far into me
either. I definately would not expect someone else to post that info
into a usnet message that is so widely exposed.

I am only hoping that it was your pain that made you do this and not
something that you would do on a regular basis.

Granted, of course, that this guy _almost_ deserved it, but he was
just being an idiot... you were being vengeful and I think that is
maybe a little bit worse. Shoot, it makes me want to go into my
'father' mode and just say "now boys.... behave..."

Don't take offense... I am still planning on keeping all the tips you
have posted here and will continue to watch any thread that you
contribute to since you do provide some very useful information!


DumberThanSnot February 17th 04 11:34 PM

On Sunday
 
snip


The only real tolerance you people have is for your
traditions Seven years of psychiatric torture as a
reward for criticizing traditions in your churches,
I begged in vain for assistance to flee the country,
now you people have the audacity to call me insensitive.
God decides when your children's lives are up,
your heart chooses Sunday as your holy day,
and He chose Sunday to stop this one's heart.
I don't think it proper for people to come to
fish groups and preach that their smitten
children are in heaven and looking down upon
us, and rather than admonish the behaviour,
you people encourage it for you desire to hear
news that your own smitten kids are in heaven.
God dothn't appoint me as a keeper of your
usenet group, God appoints me to identify
and denounce the crap that pours out of your
mouths, and if your crap pours out into groups
that should be limited to carp, then I will
publicly identify it as such. -Daryl S. Kabatoff


hahahaha... you say the craziest things. a good belly laugh keeps the mood
high here. Oh wait... your serious... oh well...

the things you say just make me sorry for the day you are judged. God will
ask you, "how much love did you share in your life"... you'll get to
answer, "What's love got to do with it... I was too busy telling people
about their smitten kids." God, will say, "Smitten? when did you become
their judge hater" (I don't think God will call you a hater... but it adds
to the drama don't you think). Remember the "Judge not" comment God gave
you? You have no idea if our kids are smitten or not because that requires
a judge... a judge, oh say, like God. and you are not God. You use God to
your will and your purpose. You fling HIS name about, and words like
smitten and admonish and you seem to believe this will make your dribble
more acceptable to us. BZZZZZZTTT wrong answer... thanks for playing.

The fact that the child died on Sunday has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING other
than the fact that the day is called Sunday. How many children die on other
days of the week and what does that mean? Are you trying to actually
indicate that the children (or anyone else for that matter) that die on
Sunday is because they are being smitten? What the HELL is wrong with you?

You say that you are appointed to denounce the crap that pours out of our
mouths... what defines crap? oh say, maybe something like... "I'll spam
ALL of you and ALL of your groups" (in the name of God I bet) " and I'll do
it using different names so you can't block me". The entire truth to who
you are is easy... your a hater that uses God in your sentences to make
yourself seem like you have something of importance to say. So far, you've
shown nothing to do with teaching, educating, or enlightening. You want to
tell us were all evil. Once again, it takes a judge to declare someone
evil. you are not a judge.

what church do you belong to that rewards such hateful comments? If you
believe your religion and faith to be the true religion... then you should
not be ashamed to educate us in what religion we should belong to. You are
obviously the superior choice as a spokes person for your faith. So, tell
me what church I should join to save myself from myself. now is your time
to stand up and be a missionary for your church.

-brian



bannor February 17th 04 11:44 PM

On Sunday
 
Red, after reading some more posts from this clown, I absolutely
retract my admonition to you to not give this guy hell...

he does actually deserve it all and then some...

my apologies.


On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:58:18 -0500, "RedForeman ©®"
wrote:

Daryl Shawn Kabatoff
Box 7134
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Canada
S7K 4J1

Gee Daryl, is that YOUR address?? How interesting...

I'd hate to see what becomes of that....

...btw, still seeing images of satan and Jesus??? Keep reading revelation
and stay out of these newsgroups, unless you have something POSITIVE to
contribute...



Thomas February 17th 04 11:46 PM

On Sunday
 
"Marcia, Bethany and Me" lurched into the group and
farted the following noxious cloud:


All some of you people have to do is to keep
requesting that these groups are not used to
push your religious doctrines, and I will
keep my contributions on topic and not
carry through with this threat.

-Daryl S. Kabatoff-Documented pedophile and
well-known penis worshiper.




snipped a lot of psycho crap from Shawn "pedophile-boy" Kabatoff


The following (courtesy of Waxy.org) is sort of an unofficial "FAQ"
explaining the psychotic nonsense posted to Usenet by Shawn Daryl
Kabatoff AKA "Dar", AKA "Probababbilities". And now AKA "marcia and
me".

WARNING: Read below before even thinking about responding to this
twit.

http://www.waxy.org/archive/2002/05/...a.shtml#000643


Usenet has the tendency to provide a public forum for those who would
normally be scribbling in a closet. For example, take Daryl "Shawn"
Kabatoff. For the last few years, he's methodically gathered
"statistics" from various sources, ranging from local newspaper
obituary pages to the food court of the Saskatoon Midtown Plaza mall.
With all the raw data he's collected, he's attempting to prove daily
that our full names are in "mathematical harmony" with our birthdays.
His rants normally focus on a single individual he's met or read
about, starting with calculations related to their birthdate and full
names, blending in whatever other personal information about their
family members, spouses, birthplace, and career he's been able to
glean. From there, it descends into a mix of numerology, religious
zealotry, and personal torment. I've never seen anything like it.
With all the prime numbers, Fibonacci sequences and biblical
references, it's like reading the notebooks of Maximillian Cohen and
John Nash combined. Unsurprisingly, several posts unfold to reveal a
history of painful mental illness. If you have some time, take a look.
I've detailed his posting history and a several sample posts below.

Usenet Posting History:

January 27, 1999 to July 5, 2000 as

December 9, 2000 to May 4, 2001 as


Oct 30, 2001 to Oct 31, 2001 as


January 20, 2002 to April 17, 2002 as
(original
posts have been

removed from Google Groups archive)

April 26, 2002 to Present as


Selected Posts:
Tessa Lynne Smith
Dastageer Sakhizai and Helen Smith
Brett David Maki
Andrew Meredith Cotton
Kathryn Lee Hipperson
Amanda Dawn Newton
Mona Marie Etcheverry
Tony Peter Nuspl
Lisa Charlene McMillan
Grant Allyn Wood

Comments
scarier still is that saskatoon is my hometown, though not my current
residence. and every single place he's mentioned in his posts (most
notably nervous harold's and the roastary) were either places i've
been (as it's a small city of 200K) or hangouts, ie. the two places
mentioned. chances are i could email some friends back home and find
out if they know of him, they (my friends that is) being of the
broadway-centred slacker ilk. myself, too, until i got out of there.
eh, anyways. thought it odd to see all this. midtown mall. i ate my
meals there, whilst waiting several days in line for star wars episode
one, at the theatre across the street.
posted by andy raad on May 22, 2002 06:20 PM

Fascinating. It's like he's trying to take chaos and bind it into
whatever rules he can find, religious, logical and otherwise. Numbers
and math have a reliable pattern, something that can always be proven
to true or false. People and religion do not. It reminds me of Darren
Aronofsky's movie Pi. It's the story of an paraniod genius who is
trying to find a pattern in Pi. A group that takes interest in his
work is convinced that the existence of Pi, a number whose existence
can be proven but no quantified, is proof of the existence of God.
Kabatoff's hunt for patterns in something as random as name selection
is a way to reconcile his deeply logical thought process with his
conflicting religious views.
posted by matt on May 23, 2002 11:19 AM

Exactly. I probably shouldn't have, but I e-mailed Daryl yesterday,
asking him if he'd be willing to create a numerological analysis for
me. I also asked him if he had seen either Pi or A Beautiful Mind, and
what he thought of them. If he replies, I'll be sure to post it.
posted by Andy Baio on May 23, 2002 11:24 AM

I baked many pumpkin pies for Shawn (he likes pumpkin pies). I rubbed
pumpkin pie all over my breasts for him, and my breasts turned orange.
I am a pumpkin for Shawn.
posted by Trisha Blondie on July 24, 2002 10:41 PM

Um, that's swell. So, you're in love with him?
posted by Andy Baio on July 25, 2002 07:10 AM

Shawn once went to a funeral for a Jehovah Witness that shot himself
and the lemon tarts were very bad, they were not only sour but were
rubbery as well. Shawn said that the guy was some kind of Jehovah
Witness prophet, he saw in advance that the lemon tarts at his funeral
were to be very very bad, and so he shot himself. Shawn said that he
never ate pumpkin pie at a funeral but would like to some day. Shawn
likes pumpkin pie and so I have been practicing to make very good
pumpkin pies.
posted by Trisha Blondie on July 25, 2002 02:49 PM

Shawn said that the lemon tarts were sour, bitter and rubbery.
posted by Trisha Blondie on July 30, 2002 12:32 AM

I don't think this guy takes notes. I think he has Total Recall, and
it has driven him insane...
posted by Todd Smith on December 26, 2002 11:00 AM

Oh... I almost forgot... I didnt spend thousands of dollars a day
tormenting Daryl... We got a deal on tormenting that fiscal year, it
only came to about 37cents a day....
posted by Dr Claw on December 30, 2002 01:56 AM

Mr. Kabatoff attempts to portray himself as a victim, but in fact he
is a violent predatory pedophile who is well known to his local law
enforcement. In his post to multiple newsgroups with the subject
"Collecting Mail For The Coming Anti-Christ", he encourages mothers to
send him photos of their naked daughters. Mr Kabatoff explains, "I
personally did not want photographs being mailed to (the coming
Ant-Christ) that were of underage children unless the parent was
signing consent." He is banned from virtually all the shopping malls
in his community because he stalks young people and sexually harasses
them. He has an extensive arrest record which includes sexual
molestation charges. He's been hospitalized in mental institutions
several times because he likes to accost "nubile cuties." He writes
about his contact with young girls in many posts. Search newsgroup
archives for posts by him containing the word "nubile". As part of his
harrassment, he provides personal details in a public forum, such as
the real names of real children, in these and other posts. About one
girl he met at a mall, he writes, "I wanted Callie in my bed or I
wanted her and her sister dead."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Da....dfncis.de&rnu
He not only curses children and prays for their death in his posts, he
also enjoys attending the funerals of young people: "And so, since
nubile sweeties are found in greatest abundance at the funerals of
high school students, then it is the funerals of high school students
that make the very very best funerals, especially if there is food...
I stuff my face (and my pockets) with all the good food and look at
all the pretty nubile sweeties and have the time of my life..
..http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Da...le+sex&hl=en&l
r=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=LfXN8.63042%24R53.25142039%40twis ter.socal.rr.
com&rnum=1
Many of his posts are sent to alt.teens.advice. However, he liberally
spams, floods and crossposts his off-topic threatening and offensive
missives to countless newsgroups. Some people HAVE problems and some
folks ARE problems. Don't dismiss Mr. Kabatoff as a harmless nut. When
he sends these posts to any newgroup, please help by reporting him to
his ISP. Thanks.
posted by nospam on January 5, 2003 04:39 AM

I knew of him when I was attending the University of Saskatchewan.
He'd hang out in the Arts computer lab and all you'd see is screens of
numbers racing by on his laptop. I have an original copy of his
"Collecting Mail for the Coming Anti-Christ" pamphlet, and have seen
him be hauled away by campus security on more than one occasion. My
friends and I refer to him as "Crazy Number Man".
posted by Mr. Somebody on April 10, 2003 11:09 AM

I've been posting to (and about) Shawn for over two years with big
gaps in between. He has seen Pi and didn't like it and didn't think it
resembled him at all. (Wrong, it fits him to a tee) He doesn't have
total recall and has stated that he travels with a lap top to notate
items. Also, he uses "cut n' paste" a lot if you read all the way
through his ramblings. He is anti-social as shown by his angry
statements towards those who, by his own admission, have been kind
(but not kind enough) to him. Still, he's intelligent and seems to be
able to "take a joke" on occassion. That's where I came in.
posted by Gambol on May 19, 2003 02:22

Tedd Jacobs February 18th 04 03:29 AM

Dont Feed the Trolls! (was: On Sunday)
 
snip

subject line sums it up. if you want a mongrel to go away, dont feed it.



Tedd Jacobs February 18th 04 03:33 AM

On Sunday
 

"rtk" wrote...

....something about a nail, a hammer, and where it strikes.



battlelance February 18th 04 12:40 PM

On Sunday
 
On 17 Feb 2004 18:34:13 EST, "DumberThanSnot"
wrote:


hahahaha... you say the craziest things. a good belly laugh keeps the mood
high here. Oh wait... your serious... oh well...


I have no idea if this guy is anti-church or pro-church, or if he even
believes in god or anything else. How confusing!

Anyway, just a note for all the Americans reading this forum: us
Canadians aren't all as stupid as Mr. Daryl S. Kabatoff :)

I'll let you take over from here, I give up :)



battlelance February 18th 04 12:50 PM

On Sunday
 
On 17 Feb 2004 15:46:25 -0800, (Thomas) wrote:

The following (courtesy of Waxy.org) is sort of an unofficial "FAQ"
explaining the psychotic nonsense posted to Usenet by Shawn Daryl
Kabatoff AKA "Dar", AKA "Probababbilities". And now AKA "marcia and
me".


How very interesting...A psycho nutbag.

Thanks for the heads up :)

DumberThanSnot February 18th 04 02:50 PM

On Sunday
 

"battlelance" wrote in message
...
On 17 Feb 2004 18:34:13 EST, "DumberThanSnot"
wrote:


hahahaha... you say the craziest things. a good belly laugh keeps the

mood
high here. Oh wait... your serious... oh well...


I have no idea if this guy is anti-church or pro-church, or if he even
believes in god or anything else. How confusing!


he believes in *his* church... the church of D.S.K.


Anyway, just a note for all the Americans reading this forum: us
Canadians aren't all as stupid as Mr. Daryl S. Kabatoff :)

I'll let you take over from here, I give up :)



I think I give up after this too... Daryl has yet to show any intelligence
beyond the ability to conjure up humorous subject titles.

At first I thought this guy actually had something to say as if though he
knew a little bit on the topic he was talking about. Turns out he's only
looking for a fight. He doesn't want to have anything to do with an
intelligent conversation because he thinks himself smarter than us. The
worst thing that could happen to Daryl is to lose an argument to us inferior
people (especially someone called DumberThanSnot). When it comes to his
church (if there even is one), Daryl uses God for his own purposes saying
that God is using him for God's purposes. If Daryl actually believed in God
and the bible, he would know that he doesn't have the authority to call our
children smitten, or to presume he knows the mind of God and proclaim that
God took an innocent child on a Sunday for the sake of proving a point that
it was on a Sunday.

The only thing I can actually gather from this nut is that his Frontal
Lobotomy operation was only half successful. ;-) (come on Daryl... that
was funny and you know it)

-brian



Chris Blastin February 18th 04 02:56 PM

On Sunday
 
It takes one to know one, and apparently you know alot about crap coming
from ones mouth!

Chris Blastin

"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
news:5VwYb.543306$X%5.184956@pd7tw2no...
"battlelance" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:51:21 GMT, "Marcia, Bethany and Me"
wrote:

Duh, it's off topic, it does not belong in these group.


So when did you become the keeper of this usenet group?

Oh, right, it's unmoderated.

All some of you people have to do is to keep
requesting that these groups are not used to
push your religious doctrines, and I will
keep my contributions on topic and not
carry through with this threat.


Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some people are religious,
some are fanatics, some don't give a sweet squat. But you know what,
this thread wasn't about religion, it was about a little lad that was
very ill.

You really are an insentisive twit with a lot of spare time on your
hands!

It's a shame you're a Canadian. We're normally very tolerant of other
people, but obviously you have issues. Perhaps a bad childhood
experience? :P

The only real tolerance you people have is for your
traditions Seven years of psychiatric torture as a
reward for criticizing traditions in your churches,
I begged in vain for assistance to flee the country,
now you people have the audacity to call me insensitive.
God decides when your children's lives are up,
your heart chooses Sunday as your holy day,
and He chose Sunday to stop this one's heart.
I don't think it proper for people to come to
fish groups and preach that their smitten
children are in heaven and looking down upon
us, and rather than admonish the behaviour,
you people encourage it for you desire to hear
news that your own smitten kids are in heaven.
God dothn't appoint me as a keeper of your
usenet group, God appoints me to identify
and denounce the crap that pours out of your
mouths, and if your crap pours out into groups
that should be limited to carp, then I will
publicly identify it as such. -Daryl S. Kabatoff





Eric Schreiber February 18th 04 06:47 PM

On Sunday
 
"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote:

The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting


The bible teaches many things. Pity that you seem to have missed the
universal messages it contains.


Duh, it's off topic, it does not belong in these group.
It's an abuse of these usenet groups.


Your contribution record hasn't exactly been stellar.


keep requesting that these groups are not used to
push your religious doctrines


A statement of one's own personal beliefs is a far cry from 'pushing a
doctrine'. Which you'd realize if you were rational.


If you insist upon continuing with this line, I can ask for
prayers for my fish and plants, day after day, and day
after day


So, your response to not liking what one person has posted is to
threaten retaliation against an entire newsgroup? That's impressively
childish.

--
www.ericschreiber.com

Hardcore Icon February 18th 04 11:12 PM

On Sunday
 
Gosh......... the Icon would HATE to see anything bad happen to

Daryl Shawn Kabatoff
Box 7134
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Canada
S7K 4J1

Sure would be a shame....... heh

Icon



"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
Daryl Shawn Kabatoff
Box 7134
Saskatoon Saskatchewan
Canada
S7K 4J1

Gee Daryl, is that YOUR address?? How interesting...

I'd hate to see what becomes of that....

...btw, still seeing images of satan and Jesus??? Keep reading revelation
and stay out of these newsgroups, unless you have something POSITIVE to
contribute...

--
RedForeman ©®
...Red (head hung low) Foreman


"Marcia, Bethany and Me" wrote in message
The Bible teaches that the dead are in the ground and waiting
for The Lord's Second coming, at that point those judged
worthy will be headed to heaven. Anyway, this is not an
appropriate place for religious discussion, you people
either cut it out and take this bull**** to alt.support.grief
or I will flood these groups with criticisms of your churches
until December 25th 2007. -Daryl S. Kabatoff








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