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Renfeild12 May 6th 04 07:54 PM

Will this tank work??
 
I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
appreiciated. by the way i had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos thanks

bottom feeder May 6th 04 10:29 PM

Will this tank work??
 
Renfeild12 wrote:
I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
appreiciated. by the way i had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos thanks



Keep it at 1 pl*co, 3 oscars, and trade the tinfoils off for some
severums or other large cichlid and I'd think it'd be great. Forget
about the sharks, though, they get 36" full grown and have a delicate
temperment.

--
dan

Cookie May 7th 04 02:30 AM

Will this tank work??
 
(Renfeild12) wrote in message ...
I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos in
it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
appreiciated. by the way i had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years just
thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs 2
oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos thanks



Perhaps 3 new oscars instead of 4. They can grow to a foot you know.
If you have had a single oscar for 5 years, then it must be pretty
big. I guess that my biggest concern is that if you introduce the 3-5
inch oscars at the pet store (however, some pet stores may have bigger
ones), and if your oscar is huge, then your present oscar may bully
the new and smaller ones. Try to get the 2 largest (and healthy -
important!) oscars you can, and set up them up in your 75 next to/in
the same room as the 120 (if possible) with your big oscar so they can
see each other (good to do anyway 'cause of potential disease from new
fishes.)

Also, to reduce the high amounts of ammonia etc in a newly established
tank, pump roughly 30%-40& of the water from your 75 into your 120 and
then fill the rest with freshwater. That way, your 120 will establish
quicker. Still, don't introduce the 3-4 oscars, 3 tinfoils, & 2 plecs
all at once. That can cause your ammonia, etc, to sky rocket in a new
tank.

Sorry this is long,

-Cookie

Renfeild12 May 7th 04 04:38 AM

Will this tank work??
 
the oscar in the 75 is big (about 12 inches)and very mean he is staying in
there by himself!! going to start the 120 with all babies think i am going to
go with 2 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs (just think they look real cool full grown)
still want 2 Pl*cos though... just curios why does everyone keep telling me to
keep it at 1 pl*co?

Cookie May 7th 04 03:54 PM

Will this tank work??
 
(Renfeild12) wrote in message ...
the oscar in the 75 is big (about 12 inches)and very mean he is staying in
there by himself!! going to start the 120 with all babies think i am going to
go with 2 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs (just think they look real cool full grown)
still want 2 Pl*cos though... just curios why does everyone keep telling me to
keep it at 1 pl*co?



1 plec because 1) they get big 2) as they get big, they get extremely
aggressive with one another.

Tinfoil barbs DO NOT grow to 3 feet!! A foot to a foot and a half
maximum. You arrangement sounds fine to me. Perhaps if you do get 2
plecs, after a while you could put one in with your mean oscar.

--Cookie

RedForeman ©® May 7th 04 03:57 PM

Will this tank work??
 
||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1 pl*co?

Honestly, the common pl*co is fine, until it gets to be 8" or so, then it
becomes a poop factory... Literally, it can poop more than any 30" of fish
could.... but another reason it's almost non-preferrable, is after it hits
6" or so, it stops eating algae and grazes on driftwood... atleast mine has
forgotten what algae tastes like, it now prefers, and will tell me it wants
zuchini...

--
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is that better??



bottom feeder May 7th 04 04:43 PM

Will this tank work??
 
RedForeman ©® wrote:
||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1 pl*co?

Honestly, the common pl*co is fine, until it gets to be 8" or so, then it
becomes a poop factory... Literally, it can poop more than any 30" of fish
could.... but another reason it's almost non-preferrable, is after it hits
6" or so, it stops eating algae and grazes on driftwood... atleast mine has
forgotten what algae tastes like, it now prefers, and will tell me it wants
zuchini...


I always wondered if they actually eat the wood or are grazing on stuff
growing on the wood. Anyone know?

--
dan

RedForeman ©® May 7th 04 05:10 PM

Will this tank work??
 
|| RedForeman ©® wrote:
|||||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1
|||||| pl*co?
|||
||| Honestly, the common pl*co is fine, until it gets to be 8" or so,
||| then it becomes a poop factory... Literally, it can poop more than
||| any 30" of fish could.... but another reason it's almost
||| non-preferrable, is after it hits 6" or so, it stops eating algae
||| and grazes on driftwood... atleast mine has forgotten what algae
||| tastes like, it now prefers, and will tell me it wants zuchini...
|||
||
|| I always wondered if they actually eat the wood or are grazing on
|| stuff growing on the wood. Anyone know?

AFAIK, they will graze on algae on all surfaces, but require to some extent,
a wooden source of fiber, they 'rasp' their jaws across it like a sandpaper,
and munch on the dust so to speak...
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==========================
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is that better??



Wm Hopkins May 7th 04 05:26 PM

Will this tank work??
 

"Cookie" wrote in message
om...
1 plec because 1) they get big 2) as they get big, they get extremely
aggressive with one another.

Tinfoil barbs DO NOT grow to 3 feet!! A foot to a foot and a half
maximum. You arrangement sounds fine to me. Perhaps if you do get 2
plecs, after a while you could put one in with your mean oscar.

--Cookie


The 36" reference was to the rainbow sharks not the T-barbs



Happy'Cam'per May 10th 04 02:50 PM

Will this tank work??
 

I think its the cellulose they're after on the wood, apparently aids with
digestion.
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**


"bottom feeder" wrote in message
...
RedForeman ©® wrote:
||| just curios why does everyone keep telling me to keep it at 1 pl*co?

Honestly, the common pl*co is fine, until it gets to be 8" or so, then

it
becomes a poop factory... Literally, it can poop more than any 30" of

fish
could.... but another reason it's almost non-preferrable, is after it

hits
6" or so, it stops eating algae and grazes on driftwood... atleast mine

has
forgotten what algae tastes like, it now prefers, and will tell me it

wants
zuchini...


I always wondered if they actually eat the wood or are grazing on stuff
growing on the wood. Anyone know?

--
dan




Charlie Durand May 11th 04 04:16 AM

Will this tank work??
 
Skip the tinfoil barbs and please skip the plecos.. definitely not two of
them. I never see the benefits of plecos.. they might get rid of algae but
mine always poop these really long tirds that never disappear.

I'm partial to Oscars though. I'd just go with the four Oscars. The one
you have is probably good size so you'll have to make sure you buy big tank
mates.

"Renfeild12" wrote in message
...
I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos

in
it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
appreiciated. by the way i had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years

just
thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs

2
oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos

thanks



Renfeild12 May 11th 04 11:09 AM

Will this tank work??
 
Why skip the tinfoil barbs? And as far as the pl*cos i wasnt getting them for
the benifits just think they look really cool and are a nice looking addition
to a tank.

Charlie Durand May 11th 04 04:41 PM

Will this tank work??
 
I was re-thinking your choices for you. Sorry about that.. you just wanted
to know if all that would work in the tank.

You didn't mention the filtration you'll be using on this 120 gallon tank.

"Renfeild12" wrote in message
...
Why skip the tinfoil barbs? And as far as the pl*cos i wasnt getting them

for
the benifits just think they look really cool and are a nice looking

addition
to a tank.




Renfeild12 May 11th 04 06:33 PM

Will this tank work??
 
its allready set up with a large wet dry and 3 canister filters

Renfeild12 May 11th 04 06:35 PM

Will this tank work??
 
oh yeah and no problem re-thinking my choices, any input is appreciated, alot
of people are telling me to not get the barbs just wondering why

bottom feeder May 11th 04 08:15 PM

Will this tank work??
 
Renfeild12 wrote:
oh yeah and no problem re-thinking my choices, any input is appreciated, alot
of people are telling me to not get the barbs just wondering why



I really think you'd need a larger school than just three, but that's
just IMO. I've heard they can be fin nippers, but I haven't actually
seen any that were.

--
dan

RedForeman ©® May 11th 04 08:39 PM

Will this tank work??
 
|| oh yeah and no problem re-thinking my choices, any input is
|| appreciated, alot of people are telling me to not get the barbs just
|| wondering why

The main reason I think most ppl dont' like TFBs, are they are sparatic,
quick, and can make for, yes, an interesting tank, but on the other end of
the spectrum, most ppl, myself included, like to have a centerpeice fish,
like one big fish, or a school, and dithers... your TFBs and Oscars are
both good fish in their own rights, but rarely are they mixed, but
considering you have a 120g, you've got room... but remember, it's your
tank... and if it's your first, my bet is, you'll outgrow your fondness for
them in about 3 months or less.... just a guess.....

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1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
'98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
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is that better??



JOHN TYCE May 26th 04 04:19 AM

Will this tank work??
 
It will work fine as long as you get a 120 gal long tank. I am basing this
on the assumption that Oscars are bottom dwellers. I raise African, so am
not extremely knowledgeable on Oscars. 120 gallons is a nice size tank,
offering allot of territory. If they are bottom dwellers, a longer tank
provides more territory resulting in less fighting. If you have a tall tank,
you need to get fish that are not only compatible, but also with layered
territories. What I mean by this is: some top dwellers, mid to top dwellers,
and bottom dwellers. If you do it this way, you can take better advantage of
the territory. But remember, more fish mean more water changes. I have a
medium to large Frontosa, Tangerine Tiger, Red Empress, Nagara Flametail,
and a Jewel Cichlid in a 55 gallon tank. It works fine. They have plenty of
holey rock caves to go around and it works well. I do a 40% water change
once a week, and have double to needed filtration. My fish thrive under
these conditions.


JOHN TYCE
"Renfeild12" wrote in message
...
I just got a 120 gallon tank, can i put 4 oscars 3 tinfoil barbs 2 pl*cos

in
it, "the guy at the fish store" says this will work any advice is greatly
appreiciated. by the way i had a single oscar in a 75 for about 5 years

just
thought a couple more would be more fun. if not what about 3 tinfoil barbs

2
oscars 2 irredesent sharks 2 pl*cos

thanks




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