Still in an SUV?
 

"ivy_mike" > wrote
> As Time magazine reported last week, not only are gas prices
> making them a bad choice, but recent accident data out
> of Washington (DOT) last week showed that SUV occupants are
> 11% more likely to die in crashes than the people in cars.

I just saw this on the Seattle Times website. Priceless
case of Evolution In Action.
FloydR
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SUV rolls in Covington parking lot, killing passenger
By Seattle Times staff


A 20-year-old Kent man died early Saturday in a Covington parking lot when
the vehicle he was riding in overturned, according to the King County
Sheriff's Office.

The man, whose name has not yet been released, was hanging out a passenger
window of a sports utility vehicle in the parking lot of the Fred Meyer
store at Southeast 272nd Street and 168th Place Southeast, said sheriff's
Sgt. John Urquhart.

He died around 2:25 a.m. It is believed the driver, a 22-year-old Kent man,
was doing doughnuts in the parking lot when the vehicle rolled. Neither the
driver nor an 18-year-old passenger were injured. The driver was booked into
the King County Jail on suspicion of vehicular homicide, Urquhart said.

> I just saw this on the Seattle Times website. Priceless
> case of Evolution In Action.
> FloydR

And in the fatility stats, the anti-SUVers will bunch this up with all
the other deaths claiming the vehicle is inherenty unsafe.

Larry Bud wrote:
> > I just saw this on the Seattle Times website. Priceless
> > case of Evolution In Action.
> > FloydR
>
> And in the fatility stats, the anti-SUVers will bunch this up with all
> the other deaths claiming the vehicle is inherenty unsafe.

Um, yeah... I mean, how many other types of vehicles typically roll
over when doing a few donuts? I'd call that "inherently unsafe."

nate

Around 7/19/2005 12:09 PM, N8N wrote:

> Larry Bud wrote:
>
>>>I just saw this on the Seattle Times website. Priceless
>>>case of Evolution In Action.
>>>FloydR
>>
>>And in the fatility stats, the anti-SUVers will bunch this up with all
>>the other deaths claiming the vehicle is inherenty unsafe.
>
>
> Um, yeah... I mean, how many other types of vehicles typically roll
> over when doing a few donuts?

Full-sized vans are one...

> I'd call that "inherently unsafe."

Yep.

Imagine if they were called upon to do some emergency avoidance maneuver
that involved something *besides* stomping on the brake and praying...
<shudder>

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On 19 Jul 2005 08:30:09 -0700, "Larry Bud" >
was understood to have stated the following:

>And in the fatility stats, the anti-SUVers will bunch this up with all
>the other deaths claiming the vehicle is inherenty unsafe.

The SUVers can keep on driving them, if they don't believe or concern
themselves with the stats. Anyone not smart enough to realize a
vehicle with a higher center of gravity deserves to be driving a SUV.

"N8N" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> Um, yeah... I mean, how many other types of vehicles typically roll
> over when doing a few donuts? I'd call that "inherently unsafe."

VW Beetles were very easy to turn over while doing donuts. My old roomate
turned over a Ferrari but he wasn't doing donuts (single vehicle, ran off
the road). I can't remember the model (it was a 1967 model coupe with a
V12), but I can remember the horror of seeing it sitting in the garage with
the roof partially caved in.

Ed

C. E. White wrote:
> "N8N" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
> > Um, yeah... I mean, how many other types of vehicles typically roll
> > over when doing a few donuts? I'd call that "inherently unsafe."
>
> VW Beetles were very easy to turn over while doing donuts.

I have never seen it, but I can imagine if it were a swing-axle version
it might be possible to get the rear end to "jack" and flip you...
likewise with an early Corvair...

> My old roomate
> turned over a Ferrari but he wasn't doing donuts (single vehicle, ran off
> the road). I can't remember the model (it was a 1967 model coupe with a
> V12), but I can remember the horror of seeing it sitting in the garage with
> the roof partially caved in.

Once you leave the pavement, rolling says nothing about the safety of a
car. Hitting an embankment at the right angle will flip even a
go-kart. Still a sad story though...

nate

On 20 Jul 2005 17:46:54 -0700, "N8N" > was
understood to have stated the following:

>
>Once you leave the pavement, rolling says nothing about the safety of a
>car. Hitting an embankment at the right angle will flip even a
>go-kart. Still a sad story though...

Agreed, but the greater the differences in the dimensions can cause a
rolling vehicle to flip less times. All other factors the same, I
would rather be flipping in something relatively flat to something
relatively round.