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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III January 18th 05 08:53 PM

What if the Nazis were nice?
 
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Sorry, I shoulda trimmed the groups.
>
> Having said that, I woulda trimmed this group and left the others.


Matt Macchiarolo January 19th 05 06:40 PM


"Rich Hampel" > wrote in message
...
> Your first premise is WRONG. Many of my relatives WERE nazis.....
> Nazism was a complete totalitarian system of total governmental control
> ..... so therefore by todays definition 'nazis' would be closer to far
> left progressive liberals who seem to tolerate absolutely no other
> philosophy than their own.


Intolerance is found on both sides of the aisle. Whether it comes from the
left or right depends on the philosophy. Nazi-style Fascism is for the most
part a conservative philosophy, as opposed to Communism, which is for the
most part a liberal philosophy. Historically, both philosphies played from
the same political gamebook, however.



Jerry Bransford January 19th 05 07:18 PM

Matt, I agree with what you're saying. It's commonly believed that the
Nazis were far right, and in some ways they were, but they were actually
into socialism of which few today are aware of... which is what the far
left also believes in. So the Nazis did have more in common with
today's far-left than few know or would suspect. The Nazi party did
espouse socialsim, just in a different manner than Marxism did. Nazi is
actually an abbreviation for Nationalsozialismus which translates to
"National Socialism". Today's "right" certainly has no beliefs in
socliasm as the Nazi party did, the 'right' and the Nazis are as far
apart from each other in their core ideologies as they could possibly
be. Oh, does the term " National Socialist German Workers Party" which
is the proper name for the Nazi party remind anyone of anything on the
Left? If it doesn't, zone in on the "Workers Party" part. ;)

Jerry

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> "Rich Hampel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Your first premise is WRONG. Many of my relatives WERE nazis.....
>>Nazism was a complete totalitarian system of total governmental control
>>..... so therefore by todays definition 'nazis' would be closer to far
>>left progressive liberals who seem to tolerate absolutely no other
>>philosophy than their own.

>
>
> Intolerance is found on both sides of the aisle. Whether it comes from the
> left or right depends on the philosophy. Nazi-style Fascism is for the most
> part a conservative philosophy, as opposed to Communism, which is for the
> most part a liberal philosophy. Historically, both philosphies played from
> the same political gamebook, however.
>
>


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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III January 19th 05 07:46 PM

Yup, that's why Hitler made the People's Car. And took the right of
the people to own firearms.
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Intolerance is found on both sides of the aisle. Whether it comes from the
> left or right depends on the philosophy. Nazi-style Fascism is for the most
> part a conservative philosophy, as opposed to Communism, which is for the
> most part a liberal philosophy. Historically, both philosphies played from
> the same political gamebook, however.


Norm & Debbie January 19th 05 07:58 PM

Bill, permit me to correct thing you said. The Weimar Republic actually
launched firearm registration and confiscation in hopes the keep firearms
out of the hands of the Fascists, Communists and the FreeKorps. When the
National Socialists came to power in 1933, the registration lists were used
to confiscate the few remaining private firearms.

Norm

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
Yup, that's why Hitler made the People's Car. And took the right of
the people to own firearms.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Intolerance is found on both sides of the aisle. Whether it comes from the
> left or right depends on the philosophy. Nazi-style Fascism is for the
> most
> part a conservative philosophy, as opposed to Communism, which is for the
> most part a liberal philosophy. Historically, both philosphies played from
> the same political gamebook, however.




L.W.(ßill) Hughes III January 19th 05 08:06 PM

So Hitler gave his people the right to own firearms, back to them?
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Norm & Debbie wrote:
>
> Bill, permit me to correct thing you said. The Weimar Republic actually
> launched firearm registration and confiscation in hopes the keep firearms
> out of the hands of the Fascists, Communists and the FreeKorps. When the
> National Socialists came to power in 1933, the registration lists were used
> to confiscate the few remaining private firearms.
>
> Norm


Norm & Debbie January 19th 05 08:10 PM

That's not what I said - you were half right. The process of depriving the
right to own firearms started under the Weimar Republic.

Norm

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
So Hitler gave his people the right to own firearms, back to them?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Norm & Debbie wrote:
>
> Bill, permit me to correct thing you said. The Weimar Republic actually
> launched firearm registration and confiscation in hopes the keep firearms
> out of the hands of the Fascists, Communists and the FreeKorps. When the
> National Socialists came to power in 1933, the registration lists were
> used
> to confiscate the few remaining private firearms.
>
> Norm




L.W.(ßill) Hughes III January 19th 05 08:17 PM

Half right? Another f**king bleeding heart liberal with no
reasoning ability!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Norm & Debbie wrote:
>
> That's not what I said - you were half right. The process of depriving the
> right to own firearms started under the Weimar Republic.
>
> Norm


Norm & Debbie January 19th 05 08:26 PM

Bill, I will not insulted by being labeled as liberal. I politely tried to
add to your comment by correcting you. I tried to give the historical view
to that period in Germany that gave rise to National Socialism. Please read
your history and don't so quick to insult people who want to help you.

Norm


"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
Half right? Another f**king bleeding heart liberal with no
reasoning ability!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Norm & Debbie wrote:
>
> That's not what I said - you were half right. The process of depriving
> the
> right to own firearms started under the Weimar Republic.
>
> Norm




L.W.(ßill) Hughes III January 19th 05 08:31 PM

Socialism??????
"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized
nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police
more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."
-- A. Hitler 1935

--
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http://www.billhughes.com/

Norm & Debbie wrote:
>
> Bill, I will not insulted by being labeled as liberal. I politely tried to
> add to your comment by correcting you. I tried to give the historical view
> to that period in Germany that gave rise to National Socialism. Please read
> your history and don't so quick to insult people who want to help you.
>
> Norm
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> Half right? Another f**king bleeding heart liberal with no
> reasoning ability!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Norm & Debbie wrote:
> >
> > That's not what I said - you were half right. The process of depriving
> > the
> > right to own firearms started under the Weimar Republic.
> >
> > Norm



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