Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
the filter?

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
> the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
> filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
> How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
> grab onto the filter?

Several.

http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/

--
DougW

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Oil filter strap wrench will do, if you want to make a mess bang a long
sharp screwdriver through the filter and use for leverage. I did it once
....messy.
Boris
http://public.fotki.com/borysd/


> wrote in message
ups.com...
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

The handle on the "KD Tools Universal Oil Filter Wrench" may prevent
its use because there's not enough room around the oil filter.

I found a similar strap/band-type wrench (see below) operated by a
3/8"-drive ratchet extension that looks more promising.


http://www.doityourself.com/invt/6289409

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

DougW proclaimed:
> gcotterl wrote:
>
>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>grab onto the filter?
>
>
> Several.
>
> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>
If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
filter works... although a bit messy.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

The one I use the most looks like a cross between a huge pair of water pump
pliers and a T-Rex although I probably have a half dozen other types. It
all depends on the filter placement.

I've done the screwdriver removal several times..... very messy....

The first time I did this I found my replacement filter was the wrong kind
and I had to walk to the auto parts store.... I learned a valuable lesson
that day...


"Lon" > wrote in message
...
> DougW proclaimed:
>> gcotterl wrote:
>>
>>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>>grab onto the filter?
>>
>>
>> Several.
>>
>> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>>
> If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
> filter works... although a bit messy.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx

I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
a socket wrench.

I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).

Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
reach the screwdriver to turn it.

Any other ideas?

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl wrote:
> I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an
> 1/2" extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other
> end to a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter
> might collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever
> to turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room
> to reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?

Sounds like your filter is on way too tight. Usually I can remove
mine by hand.

The metal band type wrenches (good ones) have teeth/cuts on them
that helps grip, nylon bands tend to slip. At one point, Sears
sold one that used a rubber strap.

--
DougW

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Last time I had this problem, I sent the old lady to th store. She returned
with a tool that looked like a large pair of pliers. With 5 or 6 sharp
teeth. Squeeze it onto the filter and the teeth bite into it. It's short
enough to reach in there but long enough to get plenty of leverage and make
a breeze of the tightest filters. Grab it closer to the engine to reduce the
possibilty of twisting the cannister. If all else fails, fill the engine
back up with oil and take it to Jiffy Lube.

Carl


> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy, the
screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just break
it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have now.
Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes). It
worked every time but made a mess.

Eric
99 TJ SE
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?

I'm not sure how it could ever be that tight. I always do my own oil
changes. I put a drop of oil on the filter rubber gasket and tighten it
as snug as possible with one hand. I rarely need to use 2 hands to
remove it.

I have a good selection of filter wrenches because every vehicle I buy
seems to require one for the first oil change. My favourites are the
fluted cup (fits my 1/2 inch drive bar) and the floppy closed pliers. I
haven't used the GBF screwdriver in many years.

Merrill

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

The first time I tried to change the oil-filter on my new Jeep Liberty,
I couldn't get the oil-filter off so, after struggling with it for
hours (it seemed), I ended up taking it to a lube place. (I suspect
that the oil-filter was installed dry at the factory).

I did the next oil-filter change. I oiled the rubber gasket and
screwed the filter until it was snug then turned it another 1/8 to 1/4
turn.

That was only about 3,000 miles ago and 9 months ago -- I only put less
than 6,000 miles on my Liberty in a year -- so I don't know why it's so
darn hard now.

P.S. What are "floppy closed pliers". Can you find a picture of one and
send me the URL?

Thx, Gary

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Ok... what is an 'oil filter cap' and why would you leave it on a
filter?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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wrote:
>
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

An oil-filter cap (or cup) fits snuggly over the fluted-end of the
oil-filter. For a pic, see:

http://www.toolweb.com/euitemlist.cf...subcatID=44344

The cap has a square hole so a 3/8" socket extension-bar can be used to
remove and install the filter.

I left the cap on the filter because I knew I'd need it for the next
oil-filter change and I didn't want to go hunting for it in my garage.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Ok, so you left the removal tool in place and it destroyed the oil
filter if I am reading this right? You are extremely lucky it didn't
wear through allowing all your oil to puke out. I have seen too many
dead engines from things like that. Even happened to me, by the time
the oil light came on from a head that came loose opening an oil passage
on a flat 4 during a highway trip, the engine was fried. (the
$tealership actually screwed that one up)

I think the tool is now likely damaged as well so I think I would just
glue the sucker back onto the filter and remove it that way. JB weld
or some other epoxy comes to mind.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wrote:
>
> An oil-filter cap (or cup) fits snuggly over the fluted-end of the
> oil-filter. For a pic, see:
>
> http://www.toolweb.com/euitemlist.cf...subcatID=44344
>
> The cap has a square hole so a 3/8" socket extension-bar can be used to
> remove and install the filter.
>
> I left the cap on the filter because I knew I'd need it for the next
> oil-filter change and I didn't want to go hunting for it in my garage.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
the flutes on the filter.

Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
be unscrewed.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Do you realize how thin the oil filter metal is? Mine rubbed on the
engine mount once and blew/wore a hole through it very fast. It wore out
the crease on a flute. Rounding the flutes wore on the flute crease
marks also. I still figure you were lucky....

So what about just gluing the tool back onto the filter???? Like I
said, the tool is also likely worn so it wouldn't be good to use again
anyway.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wrote:
>
> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
> the flutes on the filter.
>
> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
> be unscrewed.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Mike,

What he is not saying here, is whether he used the "oil filter removal tool"
to install the filter, that now won't come off. I am betting that he did.
Spin-on oil filters are designed to be installed by hand.

I don't care how tight this filter is. None of them will resist big
channel-locking pliers or a pipe wrench for long.

Earle

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> Do you realize how thin the oil filter metal is? Mine rubbed on the
> engine mount once and blew/wore a hole through it very fast. It wore out
> the crease on a flute. Rounding the flutes wore on the flute crease
> marks also. I still figure you were lucky....
>
> So what about just gluing the tool back onto the filter???? Like I
> said, the tool is also likely worn so it wouldn't be good to use again
> anyway.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> wrote:
> >
> > The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
> > the flutes on the filter.
> >
> > Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
> > be unscrewed.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I caught that to Earle. He actually 'does' say he used it to put the
filter on in one post.

I'll be he just uses his hand next time....

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> What he is not saying here, is whether he used the "oil filter removal tool"
> to install the filter, that now won't come off. I am betting that he did.
> Spin-on oil filters are designed to be installed by hand.
>
> I don't care how tight this filter is. None of them will resist big
> channel-locking pliers or a pipe wrench for long.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Do you realize how thin the oil filter metal is? Mine rubbed on the
> > engine mount once and blew/wore a hole through it very fast. It wore out
> > the crease on a flute. Rounding the flutes wore on the flute crease
> > marks also. I still figure you were lucky....
> >
> > So what about just gluing the tool back onto the filter???? Like I
> > said, the tool is also likely worn so it wouldn't be good to use again
> > anyway.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
> > > the flutes on the filter.
> > >
> > > Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
> > > be unscrewed.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I had to use the "removal" tool to install the oil filter because it's
hard to squeeze one's arm between the fan-shroud and the tie-rod, reach
the oil filter and screw it on -- there's just not enough room to work
in. Anyway, I turned the "removal" tool just enough to result in an
"hand-tight" fit.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I had to use the "removal" tool to install the oil filter because
> it's hard to squeeze one's arm between the fan-shroud and
> the tie-rod, reach the oil filter and screw it on -- there's just
> not enough room to work in. Anyway, I turned the "removal"
> tool just enough to result in an "hand-tight" fit.
>
They all say that. ;^)

Cheers.

Earle

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > I had to use the "removal" tool to install the oil filter because
> > it's hard to squeeze one's arm between the fan-shroud and
> > the tie-rod, reach the oil filter and screw it on -- there's just
> > not enough room to work in. Anyway, I turned the "removal"
> > tool just enough to result in an "hand-tight" fit.
> >
> They all say that. ;^)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Earle

LOL! And it isn't like we haven't done it once too, eh? When they say
hand tight, they really mean it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

No matter how tight that filter is, these babies will jerk that sucker right
off.

http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/kdt3368.html

I had a set and LOVED it.

HTH

Carl

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I had to use the "removal" tool to install the oil filter because it's
> hard to squeeze one's arm between the fan-shroud and the tie-rod, reach
> the oil filter and screw it on -- there's just not enough room to work
> in. Anyway, I turned the "removal" tool just enough to result in an
> "hand-tight" fit.
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

This is the type I use:
http://all-tool.com/BY_MASTER_CATAGO...wrenches_2.htm
Slide it up as near the threaded end as possible to avoid crushing the
can.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

wrote:
>
> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
> the flutes on the filter.
>
> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
> be unscrewed.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Maybe we need to get Kate involved in this discussion. She used to have a
Libby....


Is this what your engine looks like?

http://www.wkjeeps.com/photos/wk_3_7_engine.jpg





"Lon" > wrote in message
. ..
> proclaimed:
>
>> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
>> the flutes on the filter.
>>
>> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
>> be unscrewed.
>>
> Well, you've exhausted or ignored all of the common sense suggestions, so
> perhaps you might consider seeing if a local zoo has a spare gorilla?
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Emphasis on "used to" <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> Maybe we need to get Kate involved in this discussion. She used to have a
> Libby....
>
> Is this what your engine looks like?
>
> http://www.wkjeeps.com/photos/wk_3_7_engine.jpg

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Yup, that's what I use. Have two sizes for the two sizes of filters my
vehicles use.

Eric
"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> This is the type I use:
> http://all-tool.com/BY_MASTER_CATAGO...wrenches_2.htm
> Slide it up as near the threaded end as possible to avoid crushing the
> can.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> wrote:
>>
>> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
>> the flutes on the filter.
>>
>> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
>> be unscrewed.

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Whan my daughter worked (very briefly) at the service center of the Jeep
dealership, she came home one day telling me
"Mom, Liberty's SUCK!! If you ever need the oil changed on yours, don't
bring it to me"

Evidently they are VERY hard to get to, even for her scrawny little arms.

I'm sure glad she gave up being a lube jockey...

Kate

"Eric" > wrote in message
...
> Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy, the
> screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just break
> it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have
> now. Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
> motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes). It
> worked every time but made a mess.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>>
>> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>>
>> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
>> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
>> a socket wrench.
>>
>> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
>> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
>> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>>
>> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
>> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
>> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

All I know is what Kristen told me.
She says getting ttie filters off of the Liberty is an absolute screaming
mother****er...
She was scraped and bruised and quite ill tempered after doing a couple of
them that day.

Poor thing, I actually felt bad for her. She had at her disposal, big
screwdrivers, several quality band wrenches and a pair of oil filter pliers
and still ahd to wrestel in there with her little bare arm. She said it took
her something like an hour to get inbetween the places where she needed to
get to finally get it loose.

Now, Kristen is a girly girl most of the time, but she has done her share of
working on cars and she is a determined little thing. I say if the OP is
having trouble, then chances are he has tried almost everythig and it is
probable that some of these big tools that are being recommended will simply
not go into the space.

The filter, as I recall, is wedged into a really tight spot, with very
limited access. I remember thinking that she was being a whinetit and went
out to look at it for myself and having a bit more respect for her after I
saw what she was up against.

Kate
06 - uhh... what's that little white thing called again?
oh yea RUBICON!
Oh yea, you can reach the filter on this one just fine ¦¬D

"billy ray" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe we need to get Kate involved in this discussion. She used to have a
> Libby....
>
>
> Is this what your engine looks like?
>
> http://www.wkjeeps.com/photos/wk_3_7_engine.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lon" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> proclaimed:
>>
>>> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
>>> the flutes on the filter.
>>>
>>> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
>>> be unscrewed.
>>>
>> Well, you've exhausted or ignored all of the common sense suggestions, so
>> perhaps you might consider seeing if a local zoo has a spare gorilla?
>>
>
>
>
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I have to file that away..."whinetit?" never heard that before. I can think
of a lot of folks who fit that description.

I wonder if there is available a remote oil filter mount for the Liberty?

"Kate" > wrote in message
...
I remember thinking that she was being a whinetit and went
> out to look at it for myself and having a bit more respect for her after I
> saw what she was up against.
>
> Kate
> 06 - uhh... what's that little white thing called again?
> oh yea RUBICON!
> Oh yea, you can reach the filter on this one just fine ¦¬D
>
> "billy ray" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Maybe we need to get Kate involved in this discussion. She used to have
>> a
>> Libby....
>>
>>
>> Is this what your engine looks like?
>>
>> http://www.wkjeeps.com/photos/wk_3_7_engine.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Lon" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> proclaimed:
>>>
>>>> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
>>>> the flutes on the filter.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
>>>> be unscrewed.
>>>>
>>> Well, you've exhausted or ignored all of the common sense suggestions,
>>> so
>>> perhaps you might consider seeing if a local zoo has a spare gorilla?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

OUCH!
You made my head hurt!

Whinetit - a whiner who is without just cause.

geeze... I thought you were a fart smeller! I mean, smart feller.

Kate
06 Rhoobeekwan


"billy ray" > wrote in message
...
> 1. whinetit 4 thumbs up
>
> Whinetit is frankly a little bitch on the internet who is usually one
> of those scrubs yelling "0MFG H4X0|2 IMMA S3ND A VI|2U5 IN UR COMPUTER!".
> Given to people because of the fact that they whine like little babies who
> don't have a titty in there mouth to shut them up.
>
> "DAT ASHSOLE CHETZ>OMG HACKER!"
> "Stfu, whinetit."
>
> by Hadraniel Jan 10, 2005 email it
>
> www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whinetit
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand much in the definition or example but the
> term itself brings an image to mind.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kate" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Whan my daughter worked (very briefly) at the service center of the Jeep
>> dealership, she came home one day telling me
>> "Mom, Liberty's SUCK!! If you ever need the oil changed on yours, don't
>> bring it to me"
>>
>> Evidently they are VERY hard to get to, even for her scrawny little arms.
>>
>> I'm sure glad she gave up being a lube jockey...
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> "Eric" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy,
>>> the
>>> screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just
>>> break
>>> it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have
>>> now. Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
>>> motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes).
>>> It
>>> worked every time but made a mess.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> 99 TJ SE
>>> > wrote in message
>>> oups.com...
>>>>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>>>>
>>>> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>>>>
>>>> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
>>>> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
>>>> a socket wrench.
>>>>
>>>> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
>>>> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
>>>> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>>>>
>>>> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
>>>> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
>>>> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>>>>
>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

There ought to be Matt, it's in a damned akward spot.
I remember thinking I would have to dismantle something to get to it.
..
Now see.. this is how you could make your first million!

Kate

"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
. ..
>I have to file that away..."whinetit?" never heard that before. I can think
>of a lot of folks who fit that description.
>
> I wonder if there is available a remote oil filter mount for the Liberty?
>
> "Kate" > wrote in message
> ...
> I remember thinking that she was being a whinetit and went
>> out to look at it for myself and having a bit more respect for her after
>> I saw what she was up against.
>>
>> Kate
>> 06 - uhh... what's that little white thing called again?
>> oh yea RUBICON!
>> Oh yea, you can reach the filter on this one just fine ¦¬D
>>
>> "billy ray" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Maybe we need to get Kate involved in this discussion. She used to have
>>> a
>>> Libby....
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this what your engine looks like?
>>>
>>> http://www.wkjeeps.com/photos/wk_3_7_engine.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lon" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> proclaimed:
>>>>
>>>>> The removal tool did NOT destroy the oil filter; it just rounded-off
>>>>> the flutes on the filter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I need to find something that will grab onto the filter so it can
>>>>> be unscrewed.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, you've exhausted or ignored all of the common sense suggestions,
>>>> so
>>>> perhaps you might consider seeing if a local zoo has a spare gorilla?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
a good grip on the filter to screw it off.

===============================

When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
(Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
gasket and must've used an impact wrench).

===============================

Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.

===============================

Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
pictu

http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg

The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.

When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.

================================

I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For pictu

http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg

The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
to a socket wrench

As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
getting the torn filter off the mount.

================================

Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
Liberty? What tool did you use

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Wow, you are thick....

A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.

Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.

There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.

I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.

Just my $0.02.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> pictu
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For pictu
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Does the strap wrench just 'slip' when you try to turn it?

It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.

Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.

If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.

Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.

Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.

I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?

We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.




"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> pictu
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For pictu
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Around 8/28/2006 8:21 PM, Eric wrote:

> Yup, that's what I use. Have two sizes for the two sizes of filters my
> vehicles use.

I've also got two of those metal strap wrenches (somewhere).

Wouldn't you know it, this weekend when I went to change the oil the
filter was on about half a turn too tight to unscrew by hand. Of course,
that meant I couldn't find either wrench. So, I ended up using one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/gytef

Worked like a charm with no puncturing and minimal crushing... No big
ass screwdriver needed this time! :)



>
> Eric
> "L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
>> This is the type I use:
>> http://all-tool.com/BY_MASTER_CATAGO...wrenches_2.htm
>> Slide it up as near the threaded end as possible to avoid crushing the
>> can.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> http://www.billhughes.com/
>


--
~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5
{ }|||||||{ } "MukYJ"

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Neighbor of mine shredded a filter right down to the base trying to get
it off.
With nothing more than the flat base to grab, we drug my mig welder over
and tacked a bar across it... figuring it would give some leverage to
spin it off.
The mig provided just enough heat to soften the rubber ring and the base
spun off without needing to tug on the bar.