Sportswagon Arial
 

Whilst I had an Electrician looking at my 2.4 JTD Sportswagon
yesterday,I asked him to look at my radio arial... the FM works but
the Medium wave does not.

After a bit of hunting we found the arial in the Tailgate with a
Booster attached to it.

The arial and booster checked out OK. But when I pull the arial from
the back of the radio there is no change in the sound, the arial might
as well not be in.....the FM signal works without it but the MW will
not work with the arial in or out.

My question is.. can any one tell me where to look for a break in the
arial lead?

I could rip all the panels out trying to follow the cable route to the
tailgate before finding the fault. But I would prefer to hear from
some one who maybe has had a similar fault? where are the likely pinch
points? Or is there a connection on route that may have come apart?

any help appreciated.
Quiz.

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No experience personally with an Alfa, but check out the wiring loom
crossing from the rear tailgate to body shell.

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"Quiz" > wrote in message
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> Whilst I had an Electrician looking at my 2.4 JTD Sportswagon
> yesterday,I asked him to look at my radio arial... the FM works but
> the Medium wave does not.
>
> After a bit of hunting we found the arial in the Tailgate with a
> Booster attached to it.
>
> The arial and booster checked out OK. But when I pull the arial from
> the back of the radio there is no change in the sound, the arial might
> as well not be in.....the FM signal works without it but the MW will
> not work with the arial in or out.
>
> My question is.. can any one tell me where to look for a break in the
> arial lead?
>
> I could rip all the panels out trying to follow the cable route to the
> tailgate before finding the fault. But I would prefer to hear from
> some one who maybe has had a similar fault? where are the likely pinch
> points? Or is there a connection on route that may have come apart?
>
> any help appreciated.
> Quiz.
>
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"Paul Woodsford" <paul.woodsford@NO SPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
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> No experience personally with an Alfa, but check out the wiring loom
> crossing from the rear tailgate to body shell.
>
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> "Quiz" > wrote in message
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> > Whilst I had an Electrician looking at my 2.4 JTD Sportswagon
> > yesterday,I asked him to look at my radio arial... the FM works but
> > the Medium wave does not.

Also try bypassing the booster, see if that makes a difference.

has.mac

You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
FM is harder to pick up than MW!


"Quiz" > wrote in message
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> Whilst I had an Electrician looking at my 2.4 JTD Sportswagon
> yesterday,I asked him to look at my radio arial... the FM works but
> the Medium wave does not.
>
> After a bit of hunting we found the arial in the Tailgate with a
> Booster attached to it.
>
> The arial and booster checked out OK. But when I pull the arial from
> the back of the radio there is no change in the sound, the arial might
> as well not be in.....the FM signal works without it but the MW will
> not work with the arial in or out.
>
> My question is.. can any one tell me where to look for a break in the
> arial lead?
>
> I could rip all the panels out trying to follow the cable route to the
> tailgate before finding the fault. But I would prefer to hear from
> some one who maybe has had a similar fault? where are the likely pinch
> points? Or is there a connection on route that may have come apart?
>
> any help appreciated.
> Quiz.
>
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GT wrote:

> You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
> FM is harder to pick up than MW!
>
Yes, normally you can get AM without an external antenna, but not FM
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"" wrote:
> GT wrote:
>
> > You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
> > FM is harder to pick up than MW!
> >
> Yes, normally you can get AM without an external antenna, but
> not FM
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Definately the other way round Fm works well Am does not.

It’s the same with my home stereo too.

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Quiz wrote:

> "" wrote:
> > GT wrote:
> >
> > > You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
> > > FM is harder to pick up than MW!
> > >
> > Yes, normally you can get AM without an external antenna, but
> > not FM
> > --
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> > Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2
> > Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
> > www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
>
> Definately the other way round Fm works well Am does not.
>
> It’s the same with my home stereo too.
>
> Quiz.
>
Where do you live?


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In your home and outside you're correct.
However in a car the total car works as a sort of antenna.
The signal in all wave bands are transferred to your radio.
However, the car also has many, many electrical devices and other "things"
that desturbe the signal as well (fan working or not, wheel truning or not,
rear window heating, breaking lights, ABS etc etc)
That's where the FM/AM difference comes in.
The FM signal is not interferred by these "car noises" and the AM is.
So only with a complete electrically isolated radio and antenna wire are
important for good AM reception, specially when driving (good earth for all
components is VERY important, the radio is often forgotten to put the earth
strip in; connecting the "-" is not enough)
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"Catman" > schreef in bericht
...
> GT wrote:
>
>> You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
>> FM is harder to pick up than MW!
>>
> Yes, normally you can get AM without an external antenna, but not FM
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"" wrote:
> Quiz wrote:
>
> > "" wrote:
> > > GT wrote:
> > >
> > > > You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
> > > > FM is harder to pick up than MW!
> > > >
> > > Yes, normally you can get AM without an external antenna,
> but
> > > not FM
> > > --
> > > Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21
> COSOC#3
> > > Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
> > > Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS
> S2
> > > Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
> > > www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
> >
> > Definately the other way round Fm works well Am does not.
> >
> > It’s the same with my home stereo too.
> >
> > Quiz.
> >
> Where do you live?
>
>
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Kent in England.
Quiz.

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Quiz wrote:

> "" wrote:
> > Quiz wrote:
> >
> > > "" wrote:
> > > > GT wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You can pick up FM without the aerial plugged in?
> > > > > FM is harder to pick up than MW!
> > > > >
> > > > Yes, normally you can get AM without an external antenna,
> > but
> > > > not FM
> > > > --
> > > > Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21
> > COSOC#3
> > > > Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
> > > > Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS
> > S2
> > > > Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
> > > > www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
> > >
> > > Definately the other way round Fm works well Am does not.
> > >
> > > It’s the same with my home stereo too.
> > >
> > > Quiz.
> > >
> > Where do you live?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
> > Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
> > Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2
> > Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
> > www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
>
> Kent in England.
> Quiz.
>
Odd. Very odd.

Not Kent, per se, but the radio thing.
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