FishKeepingBanter.com

FishKeepingBanter.com (http://www.fishkeepingbanter.com/index.php)
-   General (http://www.fishkeepingbanter.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   Pond repair (http://www.fishkeepingbanter.com/showthread.php?t=11537)

Bill Spohn January 18th 04 03:50 PM

Pond repair
 
I have an old cement pond that has started leaking after 60 years. I do not
want to replace it with a membrane, both because I dislike the appearance and
because I do not want to disturb either the well established margins or the
large planted island in the middle of it (it is a large pond maybe 40' long).

I have tried patching, but this either didn't take or new cracks appeared.

I am thinking along the lines of a layer of reinforcing mesh and a skim coat of
cement to seal it up again, and while I am at it, I'd like to drop one section
down a couple of feet to allow a place for the fish to hide and the lilies to
grow - the pond is fairly shallow.

This chore seesm to fall between the areas of competence of the liner pondies
and a swimming pool company - no one seems to be geared up for the repair of
existing ponds, though many will offer to install a new one with membrane,
which is not what I want.

I am prepared to have one more try at patching, if anyone has any suggestions
for a flexible patching compound that will bond to old concrete. If that
doesn't work, I guess I may have to talk to the swimming pool people :-(

Any brilliant iedeas out there?

tim chandler January 18th 04 04:01 PM

Concrete Pond repair
 
Quikrete Vinyl Concrete Patcher. Works great. I used it as the surface
finish for my concrete pond, and also for patching leaks, as well as general
concrete repair. It is a fiber-reinforced mix which gives it greater
strength to resist cracking. You can Google for more info on it, it will
bond OK to old concrete but it's recommended that the old surface be roughed
up for best adhesion.

Happy (concrete) Ponding,
Tim

"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
...
I have an old cement pond that has started leaking after 60 years. I do

not
want to replace it with a membrane, both because I dislike the appearance

and
because I do not want to disturb either the well established margins or

the
large planted island in the middle of it (it is a large pond maybe 40'

long).

I have tried patching, but this either didn't take or new cracks appeared.

I am thinking along the lines of a layer of reinforcing mesh and a skim

coat of
cement to seal it up again, and while I am at it, I'd like to drop one

section
down a couple of feet to allow a place for the fish to hide and the lilies

to
grow - the pond is fairly shallow.

This chore seesm to fall between the areas of competence of the liner

pondies
and a swimming pool company - no one seems to be geared up for the repair

of
existing ponds, though many will offer to install a new one with membrane,
which is not what I want.

I am prepared to have one more try at patching, if anyone has any

suggestions
for a flexible patching compound that will bond to old concrete. If that
doesn't work, I guess I may have to talk to the swimming pool people :-(

Any brilliant iedeas out there?




Hank January 18th 04 04:38 PM

Pond repair
 
Bill, 60 year old concrete (especially below water) can be very
crumbly I think that's a word. I would try to seal larger cracks
with expandable foam before coating with concrete. Tim is right,
Quickcrete makes an excellent patch product. You must remove all
traces of algae or the patch will not bond. (bleach .... toxic to fish
or mild muriatic acid ..... will cause PH to plunge) Both work well
but you must use carefully.
Fiberglass or epoxy pool coatings are another option, but
very costly. Hank

"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
...
I have an old cement pond that has started leaking after 60 years. I

do not
want to replace it with a membrane, both because I dislike the

appearance and
because I do not want to disturb either the well established margins

or the
large planted island in the middle of it (it is a large pond maybe

40' long).

I have tried patching, but this either didn't take or new cracks

appeared.

I am thinking along the lines of a layer of reinforcing mesh and a

skim coat of
cement to seal it up again, and while I am at it, I'd like to drop

one section
down a couple of feet to allow a place for the fish to hide and the

lilies to
grow - the pond is fairly shallow.

This chore seesm to fall between the areas of competence of the

liner pondies
and a swimming pool company - no one seems to be geared up for the

repair of
existing ponds, though many will offer to install a new one with

membrane,
which is not what I want.

I am prepared to have one more try at patching, if anyone has any

suggestions
for a flexible patching compound that will bond to old concrete. If

that
doesn't work, I guess I may have to talk to the swimming pool people

:-(

Any brilliant iedeas out there?





Bill Spohn January 18th 04 05:16 PM

Pond repair
 
Thanks for the advice, guys.

RichToyBox January 19th 04 12:30 AM

Pond repair
 
There is a neoprene coating that can be gotten at AquaticEco.com made by
Herco that comes in white, black or gray, and would act as a liner on the
concrete. Most concrete repair materials using portland cement are to rigid
to permit any movement of the concrete below, which is probably has caused
the concrete to crack initially.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
...
I have an old cement pond that has started leaking after 60 years. I do

not
want to replace it with a membrane, both because I dislike the appearance

and
because I do not want to disturb either the well established margins or

the
large planted island in the middle of it (it is a large pond maybe 40'

long).

I have tried patching, but this either didn't take or new cracks appeared.

I am thinking along the lines of a layer of reinforcing mesh and a skim

coat of
cement to seal it up again, and while I am at it, I'd like to drop one

section
down a couple of feet to allow a place for the fish to hide and the lilies

to
grow - the pond is fairly shallow.

This chore seesm to fall between the areas of competence of the liner

pondies
and a swimming pool company - no one seems to be geared up for the repair

of
existing ponds, though many will offer to install a new one with membrane,
which is not what I want.

I am prepared to have one more try at patching, if anyone has any

suggestions
for a flexible patching compound that will bond to old concrete. If that
doesn't work, I guess I may have to talk to the swimming pool people :-(

Any brilliant iedeas out there?




GrannyGrump January 19th 04 12:54 AM

Pond repair
 

Any brilliant iedeas out there?


Take a look at Sani-Tred
http://www.sanitred.com/WaterFountain.htm



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:47 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FishKeepingBanter.com