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John April 5th 04 07:29 PM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.

~ Windsong ~ April 5th 04 10:18 PM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 

"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.

==========================
I used a product that treated the fish without handling them called
LymoZyme. We were amazed how quickly it worked. In 2 weeks or so the
ulcers were healed over. I think you can find it online at Koivet.com. I
buy it locally. You add it to the pond water.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



~ Windsong ~ April 5th 04 10:18 PM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 

"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.

==========================
I used a product that treated the fish without handling them called
LymoZyme. We were amazed how quickly it worked. In 2 weeks or so the
ulcers were healed over. I think you can find it online at Koivet.com. I
buy it locally. You add it to the pond water.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



RichToyBox April 6th 04 01:28 AM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
The ulcer may start to heal as soon as the water warms up, since the koi
immune system is negligible at temperatures below 50 degrees, but it could
allow the bacteria into the blood stream and kill the fish also. There is a
product named KoiZyme that is excellent at keeping the bad bacteria
population under control, which could help to cure the fish, but if not
directly help, keep the bacteria levels down so that it doesn't get worse.
The ulcer really needs to be treated with some form of topical treatment to
kill the bacteria on the wound. The treatment could be iodine, a pp paste,
betadine, followed by use of antibiotic cream. Only one treatment with the
iodine, betadine, or pp is needed or recommended. The first aid cream can
be applied multiple times to help with the healing, but shouldn't be
necessary. The other treatment is antibiotic injections or medicated food
like Debride. Except for the food, all methods of treating the fish require
catching.
"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.




RichToyBox April 6th 04 01:28 AM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
The ulcer may start to heal as soon as the water warms up, since the koi
immune system is negligible at temperatures below 50 degrees, but it could
allow the bacteria into the blood stream and kill the fish also. There is a
product named KoiZyme that is excellent at keeping the bad bacteria
population under control, which could help to cure the fish, but if not
directly help, keep the bacteria levels down so that it doesn't get worse.
The ulcer really needs to be treated with some form of topical treatment to
kill the bacteria on the wound. The treatment could be iodine, a pp paste,
betadine, followed by use of antibiotic cream. Only one treatment with the
iodine, betadine, or pp is needed or recommended. The first aid cream can
be applied multiple times to help with the healing, but shouldn't be
necessary. The other treatment is antibiotic injections or medicated food
like Debride. Except for the food, all methods of treating the fish require
catching.
"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.




RichToyBox April 6th 04 01:39 AM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
When Lymnozyme came on the market it was the greatest stuff. Tom Holder of
KoiCare Kennels introduced the product to Doc Johnson, and that is the
information published. Tom has since taken the original product and renamed
it KoiZyme. For a couple of years you could not find Lymnozyme, but it is
now back. I am glad to see that someone is reporting good things about it.
I have used the original Lymnozyme from the first advertisement that I saw,
and now use KoiZyme religiously.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.

==========================
I used a product that treated the fish without handling them called
LymoZyme. We were amazed how quickly it worked. In 2 weeks or so the
ulcers were healed over. I think you can find it online at Koivet.com. I
buy it locally. You add it to the pond water.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





RichToyBox April 6th 04 01:39 AM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
When Lymnozyme came on the market it was the greatest stuff. Tom Holder of
KoiCare Kennels introduced the product to Doc Johnson, and that is the
information published. Tom has since taken the original product and renamed
it KoiZyme. For a couple of years you could not find Lymnozyme, but it is
now back. I am glad to see that someone is reporting good things about it.
I have used the original Lymnozyme from the first advertisement that I saw,
and now use KoiZyme religiously.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.

==========================
I used a product that treated the fish without handling them called
LymoZyme. We were amazed how quickly it worked. In 2 weeks or so the
ulcers were healed over. I think you can find it online at Koivet.com. I
buy it locally. You add it to the pond water.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Offbreed April 6th 04 02:10 AM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
RichToyBox wrote:

The ulcer may start to heal as soon as the water warms up, since the koi
immune system is negligible at temperatures below 50 degrees, but it could
allow the bacteria into the blood stream and kill the fish also. There is a
product named KoiZyme that is excellent at keeping the bad bacteria
population under control, which could help to cure the fish, but if not
directly help, keep the bacteria levels down so that it doesn't get worse.
The ulcer really needs to be treated with some form of topical treatment to
kill the bacteria on the wound. The treatment could be iodine, a pp paste,
betadine, followed by use of antibiotic cream.


Oh, wait a minute, now.

Just a tiny bit of iodine spilled in a BIG tank of fingerlings at a
hatchery I was working at, and wiped out the whole tank. I'd really be
careful of that stuff around fish.


Offbreed April 6th 04 02:10 AM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
RichToyBox wrote:

The ulcer may start to heal as soon as the water warms up, since the koi
immune system is negligible at temperatures below 50 degrees, but it could
allow the bacteria into the blood stream and kill the fish also. There is a
product named KoiZyme that is excellent at keeping the bad bacteria
population under control, which could help to cure the fish, but if not
directly help, keep the bacteria levels down so that it doesn't get worse.
The ulcer really needs to be treated with some form of topical treatment to
kill the bacteria on the wound. The treatment could be iodine, a pp paste,
betadine, followed by use of antibiotic cream.


Oh, wait a minute, now.

Just a tiny bit of iodine spilled in a BIG tank of fingerlings at a
hatchery I was working at, and wiped out the whole tank. I'd really be
careful of that stuff around fish.


Nedra April 6th 04 02:13 PM

Koi ulcer,please help.
 
Rich, You say you use KoiZyme religiously. Do you mean
to say you use it whether your fish need it or not?
I haven't started using it yet. No need to that I can see.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
news:o%mcc.194357$Cb.1743480@attbi_s51...
When Lymnozyme came on the market it was the greatest stuff. Tom Holder

of
KoiCare Kennels introduced the product to Doc Johnson, and that is the
information published. Tom has since taken the original product and

renamed
it KoiZyme. For a couple of years you could not find Lymnozyme, but it is
now back. I am glad to see that someone is reporting good things about

it.
I have used the original Lymnozyme from the first advertisement that I

saw,
and now use KoiZyme religiously.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
m...
My Biggest Koi (18'') have started having ulcer since two month ago
and it is getting worse, I only captured him once and applied the
medicine, (trust me,it is very hard to capture a fish in 6000 gallon
pond) what should I do? (I do not have a quarantine tank yet) will he
died from it or it will eventually recover? what else can I do?
My other fishes seems to be doing fine. (ammonia,nitrate (nitrite?)
all 0 )
Please advice.

==========================
I used a product that treated the fish without handling them called
LymoZyme. We were amazed how quickly it worked. In 2 weeks or so the
ulcers were healed over. I think you can find it online at Koivet.com.

I
buy it locally. You add it to the pond water.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~








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