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Benign Vanilla May 26th 04 04:20 PM

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The SO approved me renting a trencher so I can run power and water out to
the pond. When I mentioned I could T off and put a spigot in the garden, she
instantly approved the rental.

Before I do this...Any thoughts? gotchas? wish-I-had-done-this's?

BV.



KenCo May 26th 04 04:52 PM

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Benign Vanilla wrote:
The SO approved me renting a trencher so I can run power and water out to
the pond. When I mentioned I could T off and put a spigot in the garden, she
instantly approved the rental.

Before I do this...Any thoughts? gotchas? wish-I-had-done-this's?

BV.



at least 3' deep for a water line or
have a "hydrant" type pipe at other
end so it can be drained in winter.







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Benign Vanilla May 26th 04 05:02 PM

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"KenCo" wrote in message
...
Benign Vanilla wrote:
The SO approved me renting a trencher so I can run power and water out

to
the pond. When I mentioned I could T off and put a spigot in the garden,

she
instantly approved the rental.

Before I do this...Any thoughts? gotchas? wish-I-had-done-this's?

BV.



at least 3' deep for a water line or
have a "hydrant" type pipe at other
end so it can be drained in winter.


My plan to is have an inside valve that can shut it down for the winter, and
then I plan to open all of the outside valves to allow for expansion.

BV.



chagoi May 26th 04 05:21 PM

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Benign Vanilla wrote:

at least 3' deep for a water line or
have a "hydrant" type pipe at other
end so it can be drained in winter.



My plan to is have an inside valve that can shut it down for the winter, and
then I plan to open all of the outside valves to allow for expansion.

BV.


you don't just have to open the outside valve to allow for expansion,
you also have to be able to drain the line. TOTALLY.

make sure the valve has an auxilary drain valve. or add a cheap hose
connection valve between the outside and the inside valves.
Also maintain a consistant pitch back down into the basement.



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Benign Vanilla May 26th 04 05:23 PM

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"chagoi" wrote in message
...
Benign Vanilla wrote:

at least 3' deep for a water line or
have a "hydrant" type pipe at other
end so it can be drained in winter.



My plan to is have an inside valve that can shut it down for the winter,

and
then I plan to open all of the outside valves to allow for expansion.

BV.


you don't just have to open the outside valve to allow for expansion,
you also have to be able to drain the line. TOTALLY.

make sure the valve has an auxilary drain valve. or add a cheap hose
connection valve between the outside and the inside valves.
Also maintain a consistant pitch back down into the basement.


There is no way I'll be able to pitch back to the basement. In the backyard
it's a walkout, and for the distance I am going, the end of the pipe would
end up under the house. LOL.

BV.



joe May 26th 04 05:26 PM

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Just blow it out with an air compressor. Much safer.

Joe

On 5/26/04 9:02 AM, "Benign Vanilla" wrote:

My plan to is have an inside valve that can shut it down for the winter, and
then I plan to open all of the outside valves to allow for expansion.




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Pond Diver May 26th 04 05:42 PM

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You could wrap the pipe with heat tape from below the frost line up since
you said you'd have electric out there too. They do this on most mobile
homes and it works well. If you are neat and keep things covered with some
sort of enclosure it should work well. Blowing the water out with an air
compressor before winter sets in is also an option. But in my opinion
would be a PITA.

Oh and whatever you do, use properly installed GFI circuits!!!!


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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"KenCo" wrote in message
...
Benign Vanilla wrote:
The SO approved me renting a trencher so I can run power and water out

to
the pond. When I mentioned I could T off and put a spigot in the

garden,
she
instantly approved the rental.

Before I do this...Any thoughts? gotchas? wish-I-had-done-this's?

BV.



at least 3' deep for a water line or
have a "hydrant" type pipe at other
end so it can be drained in winter.


My plan to is have an inside valve that can shut it down for the winter,

and
then I plan to open all of the outside valves to allow for expansion.

BV.





chagoi May 26th 04 05:46 PM

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Benign Vanilla wrote:

ent.


There is no way I'll be able to pitch back to the basement. In the backyard
it's a walkout, and for the distance I am going, the end of the pipe would
end up under the house. LOL.

BV.


How far do you have to run it.

you don't need a lot of pitch just try to not have low spots for the
water to pool, esp. if you need to stay ABOVE the frost line.

My city water line comes into the house 5 feet below ground level.
My line to the pond goes out of the house @4' runs 80 feet to 3.5' below
the ground at the pond. At a pitch of 6-8" per 100'.
More than enough to drain properly.

Blowing it out with a compressor is a ROYAL PITA

Chagoi


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groovy May 26th 04 06:00 PM

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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...
The SO approved me renting a trencher so I can run power and water out to
the pond. When I mentioned I could T off and put a spigot in the garden,

she
instantly approved the rental.

Before I do this...Any thoughts? gotchas? wish-I-had-done-this's?


Probably stating the obvious but, check for buried pipes before starting. My
garden is a spiders web of wires and pipes under the surface so I can only
dig carefully by hand.



joe May 26th 04 06:54 PM

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Not that bad, you just put a fitting on one end that accepts the compressor
hose and turn it on.

Joe

On 5/26/04 9:46 AM, "chagoi" wrote:

Blowing it out with a compressor is a ROYAL PITA




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