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Pond Diver July 1st 04 05:27 PM

Hlep
 
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable. Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is 18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim reaper
is on their shoulders.

Help!!

PondDiver



Pond Diver July 1st 04 05:29 PM

Hlep <--oops
 
See! Its got me so flustered I can't spell HELP


"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed

the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.

Help!!

PondDiver





Benign Vanilla July 1st 04 05:34 PM

Hlep
 

"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed

the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.


You say your params are OK. Is your ammonia zero? In warmer water, you'll
tend to have less oxygen. In a small amount like 250 gallons, you are more
suscetible to swings in chemistry, and the fish are more at risk. If you are
losing 2-3 per day...how many do you have in 250 gallons?

Are there any outside issues? Chemicals being sprayed, etc?

Are the plants OK?

Are any other critters dieing?

BV.



Bonnie July 1st 04 06:12 PM

Hlep
 

You say your params are OK. Is your ammonia zero? In warmer water, you'll
tend to have less oxygen. In a small amount like 250 gallons, you are more
suscetible to swings in chemistry, and the fish are more at risk. If you are
losing 2-3 per day...how many do you have in 250 gallons?

Are there any outside issues? Chemicals being sprayed, etc?

Are the plants OK?

Are any other critters dieing?

BV.



Yea, what he said. A ph of 8 is fine for a pond. I think
something else is most likely the problem.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/



tim chandler July 1st 04 07:19 PM

Hlep
 
Do you have any aeration at all, a bubbler, a waterfall, anything to put
some oxygen into the water?

"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed

the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.

Help!!

PondDiver





SanDiegoJoe July 1st 04 08:53 PM

Hlep
 
"Benign Vanilla" wrote:


"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed

the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.


You say your params are OK. Is your ammonia zero? In warmer water, you'll
tend to have less oxygen. In a small amount like 250 gallons, you are more
suscetible to swings in chemistry, and the fish are more at risk. If you are
losing 2-3 per day...how many do you have in 250 gallons?

Are there any outside issues? Chemicals being sprayed, etc?

Are the plants OK?

Are any other critters dieing?

BV.


If your parameters are good, I think we had a thread awhile back about
runoff into the pond containing pesticide. Any chance of that?


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons. Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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George July 1st 04 10:32 PM

Hlep <--oops
 

"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
See! Its got me so flustered I can't spell HELP


It would help if you provoded at least partial shade. The fact that your string
algae has died back tells me that you may have a problem with oxygen deficiency.
Try adding an aerator. A pH of 8.0 is ok for a pond. What kind of fish do you
have, and what are their symptoms? Are they gulping air at the surface?


"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed

the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.

Help!!

PondDiver







Barbara2245 July 2nd 04 12:00 AM

Hlep
 
"tim chandler" wrote in message . ..
Do you have any aeration at all, a bubbler, a waterfall, anything to put
some oxygen into the water?

"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around 8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even noticed

the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.

Help!!

PondDiver



You had too many fish and now they are down to a safer amount. A pond
needs a pump-fountain to get oxygen in to the water and a bio-filter
to handle the ammonia, etc. The pond needs 60% surface coverage to
keep the temps down especially in a smaller pond. My pond is in full
sun and the well water has a 8.4 pH. Even when I had a smaller pond
there were no problems due to the fountain-pump and bio-filter. Invest
in Low-Maintanence Water Gardens by Helen Nash. Good luck.

Pond Diver July 2nd 04 01:03 AM

Hlep
 
Noticed my lillies are turning yellow and dying. Some pads aren't even
getting large, just turning brown around the edges

No other critters other than goldfish. I HAD around 25 or so. I had 19 in
the 250 gal and 6 in the smaller 90 gal



Are the plants OK?

Are any other critters dieing?

BV.





Pond Diver July 2nd 04 01:04 AM

Hlep
 
nope, we purposely do not use pesticides in the backyard period due to our
dogs and the pond(s).


..
"SanDiegoJoe" wrote in message
...
"Benign Vanilla" wrote:


"Pond Diver" wrote in message
...
Help me.

My fish are dying at a rate of 2 - 3 per day. I don't know exactly

why.
But I suspect it is a combination of temperature and pH. (pH around

8.0)
How I don't know...

My pond is in full sun and can get quite warm above 80F easy. But now

the
pond is cooler sense the outdoor temps have become more tolerable.

Anyway,
I noticed I was loosing some fish. I tested the water and everything

came
back OK except the water hardness, and pH. Both were way high. like a

pH
of 8.0. Ammonia and nitrate levels were great. Hell, I've even

noticed
the
string algae that started to grow dropped deader than a hammer as

well!!!!
Something is in my pond water and its killing my fish.

Any ideas? Can temp cause a high pH level? Should I make my pond

deeper
because its in full sun and can get quite warm? The current depth is

18-24
inches and approx 250gal. I had about 20 goldfish averaging 3-6 inches

in
length. I'm down to about 8 and they're moaping around like the grim

reaper
is on their shoulders.


You say your params are OK. Is your ammonia zero? In warmer water,

you'll
tend to have less oxygen. In a small amount like 250 gallons, you are

more
suscetible to swings in chemistry, and the fish are more at risk. If you

are
losing 2-3 per day...how many do you have in 250 gallons?

Are there any outside issues? Chemicals being sprayed, etc?

Are the plants OK?

Are any other critters dieing?

BV.


If your parameters are good, I think we had a thread awhile back about
runoff into the pond containing pesticide. Any chance of that?


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons. Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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