azponds ?
 

Has anyone delt with these guys? Prices seem reasonable.

azponds ?
 

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 05:44:04 GMT, Grumpy wrote:

Has anyone delt with these guys? Prices seem reasonable.


I did. I got what I ordered, when they said they would send it, all
okay. I'd deal with them again.

I have read that they are hard to get a hold of if you need to talk to
them, I didn't, so that's just what I've read.


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- Charles
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-does not play well with others

azponds ?
 

They would not stand behind the cal pump uv light I bought when it went bad,
they made me deal directly with Cal Pump for warranty adjustment.....not
cool in my book.

"Grumpy" wrote in message
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Has anyone delt with these guys? Prices seem reasonable.

azponds ?
 

I talked to them today, no problem what so ever. I'm trying to give
local shops my business, but their prices make it hard, even with
shipping. So far I'm saving at least a couple hundred dollars with just
the pump and liner, I haven't priced filters yet. I'm still trying to
understand what the best method is. Problem is, I've talked to 10
different people, and gotten 10 different filtration methods including
no filter at all. So I'm still on the hunt. Here is the "hole" I have so
far:
http://home.comcast.net/~grumpy232/pondpage.htm
I'll take any recommendations. I will have koi. Thanks
p.s. I'm saving over 1,000 dollars compared to one of the shops, pays to
shop around!

Charles wrote:

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 05:44:04 GMT, Grumpy wrote:


Has anyone delt with these guys? Prices seem reasonable.



I did. I got what I ordered, when they said they would send it, all
okay. I'd deal with them again.

I have read that they are hard to get a hold of if you need to talk to
them, I didn't, so that's just what I've read.

azponds ?
 

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 06:31:51 GMT, Grumpy wrote:

I talked to them today, no problem what so ever. I'm trying to give
local shops my business, but their prices make it hard, even with
shipping. So far I'm saving at least a couple hundred dollars with just
the pump and liner, I haven't priced filters yet. I'm still trying to
understand what the best method is. Problem is, I've talked to 10
different people, and gotten 10 different filtration methods including
no filter at all. So I'm still on the hunt. Here is the "hole" I have so
far:
http://home.comcast.net/~grumpy232/pondpage.htm
I'll take any recommendations. I will have koi. Thanks
p.s. I'm saving over 1,000 dollars compared to one of the shops, pays to
shop around!


Your setup looks really nice. What I know about Koi filters is "use
lots of filtration."

From the picture it's not clear how sturdy the cement blocks are.
They won't shift over time, will they? the wooden fence shouldn't be
counted on for support, I think.

Someone else mentioned Cal-pumps. the water garden place I frequent
has stopped carrying them, too much bother. He is a strong believer
in Pond master. The PM pumps I've used work well.

I don't mean to be negative about what you are doing, I worked as a
technician most of my life and my tendency is to look for things that
might go wrong and try to see what can be done to prevent problems.
I caused a lot of people a lot of grief along the way.

:-)


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- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

azponds ?
 

Grumpy wrote:
Here is the "hole" I have so far:
http://home.comcast.net/~grumpy232/pondpage.htm
I'll take any recommendations. I will have koi. Thanks
p.s. I'm saving over 1,000 dollars compared to one of the shops, pays to
shop around!


One question on the "after" picture Grumpy.
http://home.comcast.net/~grumpy232/davespond.jpg

How'd you get the moss to stick to the walls?
You've seemed to have mastered it better than I have. :-)
http://ourkoipond.com/Image57.jpg

--
/\/\ike
Chagoi
http://ourkoipond.com

azponds ?
 

snip



Your setup looks really nice. What I know about Koi filters is "use
lots of filtration."

I plan on a uv, bio, and mechanical (gravel?)

From the picture it's not clear how sturdy the cement blocks are.
They won't shift over time, will they? the wooden fence shouldn't be
counted on for support, I think.

Cemented and rebarbed with a gap from the fence



I don't mean to be negative about what you are doing, I worked as a
technician most of my life and my tendency is to look for things that
might go wrong and try to see what can be done to prevent problems.
I caused a lot of people a lot of grief along the way.


I'm known as a technician in my field. When things break, a lot of
people tend to get annoyed, mainly the passengers inside the airplane.
:-)

azponds ?
 

I have several times. They are the cheapest around in my book. If you know
what you want two thumbs up. I would consider them kind of the Charles
Schwab of ponding. If you need extensive support or insight they may fall
short. And, of course they are only going to recommend what they have to
offer, although I guess there are few who dont. So small on price, small of
support.
Bill Brister - Austin, Texas

"Grumpy" wrote in message
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Has anyone delt with these guys? Prices seem reasonable.

azponds ?
 

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 15:02:49 GMT, Grumpy wrote:



snip



Your setup looks really nice. What I know about Koi filters is "use
lots of filtration."

I plan on a uv, bio, and mechanical (gravel?)

Gravel - never again. I used lava rock, it worked well until time to
clean it out, I wore my fingers down a bit. I'd go with one of the
plastic media things. Are there koi shops around your area? check
with them as to what they use, not what they sell.

I just have goldfish and water lilies, nowhere near as elaborate as
what you have planned.

From the picture it's not clear how sturdy the cement blocks are.
They won't shift over time, will they? the wooden fence shouldn't be
counted on for support, I think.

Cemented and rebarbed with a gap from the fence



I don't mean to be negative about what you are doing, I worked as a
technician most of my life and my tendency is to look for things that
might go wrong and try to see what can be done to prevent problems.
I caused a lot of people a lot of grief along the way.


I'm known as a technician in my field. When things break, a lot of
people tend to get annoyed, mainly the passengers inside the airplane.
:-)



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- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

azponds ?
 

If you're serious about keeping koi then I suggest you stop where you are
right now and head on over to the pond building forum at
http://www.koiphen.com There are some very knowlegable folks there that
really know their stuff. I hate to say it, but 3 feet deep isn't going to be
deep enough for koi. You're going to need some heavy duty filtration as
well... there is a reason koi are called pond pigs...
Janet in hot, humid Niagara Falls

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"Grumpy" wrote in message
news:rjGPc.81559$eM2.74028@attbi_s51...
I talked to them today, no problem what so ever. I'm trying to give
local shops my business, but their prices make it hard, even with
shipping. So far I'm saving at least a couple hundred dollars with just
the pump and liner, I haven't priced filters yet. I'm still trying to
understand what the best method is. Problem is, I've talked to 10
different people, and gotten 10 different filtration methods including
no filter at all. So I'm still on the hunt. Here is the "hole" I have so
far:
http://home.comcast.net/~grumpy232/pondpage.htm
I'll take any recommendations. I will have koi. Thanks
p.s. I'm saving over 1,000 dollars compared to one of the shops, pays to
shop around!

Charles wrote:

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 05:44:04 GMT, Grumpy wrote:


Has anyone delt with these guys? Prices seem reasonable.



I did. I got what I ordered, when they said they would send it, all
okay. I'd deal with them again.

I have read that they are hard to get a hold of if you need to talk to
them, I didn't, so that's just what I've read.