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Kelly March 27th 04 08:08 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 
There should be a ignore what precedes aswell.
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When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!
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I think you must know what I'm talking about. Together, a heavy foreign

accent,
coupled with a lousy phone connection can only mean one thing... An

outsourced
operation, in a place like India, China, The Philippines, etc.; where some
greedy American corporation is saving a few pieces of Silver and

displacing
American workers in the process.
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The best thing you can do is hang up... look for the companies' on-shore

counterpart
and complain! Tell them you're sick and tired of sub-standard services by

people
who speak English so poorly that you can hardly communicate... are most

often
poorly trained... have little accountability for the advice they give

you... often can't be
heard clearly because of a poor satellite phone connection... conveniently

block
their caller-ID... give themselves phony names like 'Tina' or 'Jimmy' (to

deceive you
into thinking they're local) and most often provide no avenue to escalate

an issue
to someone who can really help.
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Corporations will only end this practice if they see they're losing their

customer
base as a consequence. Let's start doing our part by starting a

grass-roots
movement...
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Dinky March 27th 04 08:42 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 


"Kelly" wrote in message
news:jbl9c.24900$QO2.6738@pd7tw1no...
| There should be a ignore what precedes aswell.

On the contrary, every word is true, but this is far from the proper
forum, and he's diminishing the message by using spam tactics to
spread it.

billy



Byron L. Reed March 28th 04 02:10 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:56:05 GMT, wrote:

An outsourced
operation, in a place like India, China, The Philippines, etc.; where some
greedy American corporation is saving a few pieces of Silver and displacing
American workers in the process.



That "greedy American corporation" is probably included in the 401(k)
retirement plans of most everybody who reads this. Average American
workers gain from this.

The savings the corporation makes gives them pricing power, causing the
average American worker to spend less money to acquire their goods and
services.

The establishment of business infrastructure in third world companies
require the purchase of capital goods from the United States. This is good
for average American workers who produce it.

The removal of expensively educated American workers from mundane
operations allows productivity to increase and engenders new business
enterprise in the United States. This is good for average American workers
(who aren't content with being lazy and insisting they keep the same job
for life).

For every non-competitive American job that is moved overseas, many more
poor local people are to work. Thus, many more people are allowed to
improve their lives. This injection of income encourages adoption of a
modern economy, government, and social stability which will reduce the
excuses for terrorism. This is good for average American workers - and
everybody else in the world.

The only people who really lose in the outsourcing equation are members of
outdated and inefficient un-American union labor.


BLReed

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Dinky March 28th 04 03:28 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 




"Byron L. Reed" wrote in message
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| On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:56:05 GMT, wrote:
|
| An outsourced
| operation, in a place like India, China, The Philippines, etc.;
where some
| greedy American corporation is saving a few pieces of Silver and
displacing
| American workers in the process.
|
|
| That "greedy American corporation" is probably included in the
401(k)
| retirement plans of most everybody who reads this. Average
American
| workers gain from this.
|


Tell this to the thousands of people like myself who are being put
out of work by the increasing use of offshore out-sourcing, and all
the other new laws that are supposed to promote "world trade", that
are in effect, killing our economy. Have you looked outside lately?



Kelly March 28th 04 04:00 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 
I know in the tech industry that a lot of jobs go to China and India because
they produce 3x
the amount of comp sci grads every than the US. I live in Canada and we get
recruited for US
tech jobs because our graduate trainging is more up to date and more
experiance driven rather than
then academic compared to that of our counter parts in the US, at least in
the Pacific Northwest
which is where the bulk of Tech comes out of anyways.

A lot of people complain about outsourcing tech jobs over seas but they do
not realize the needs
of the companies cannot be met here. Steve Balmer CEO of Microsoft recently
said that they have
hired tech people out of India and China simply because the demand is not
met here in North
America. He also mentioned that the cost wasn't an issue since they still do
their R&D over here
in the silicon valley and a lot of times end up moving people over to
America.

I guess the point at least in the tech sector is that the work is here you
just have to go get it.



Paulo March 28th 04 04:30 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 
I think this forum is read by different people around the world and doesnt
belong to anybody or any country or people in particular. We are a bunch of
people meeting here to discuss about our hobby.
Anyways, when somebody call me to offer me any kind of things, i treat them
with respect because they are working...and sorry...their work is to call
"us" and "bother us" They get paid for just that.

--
Paulo
"Kelly" wrote in message news:Kdr9c.28382$QO2.9999@pd7tw1no...
I know in the tech industry that a lot of jobs go to China and India

because
they produce 3x
the amount of comp sci grads every than the US. I live in Canada and we

get
recruited for US
tech jobs because our graduate trainging is more up to date and more
experiance driven rather than
then academic compared to that of our counter parts in the US, at least in
the Pacific Northwest
which is where the bulk of Tech comes out of anyways.

A lot of people complain about outsourcing tech jobs over seas but they do
not realize the needs
of the companies cannot be met here. Steve Balmer CEO of Microsoft

recently
said that they have
hired tech people out of India and China simply because the demand is not
met here in North
America. He also mentioned that the cost wasn't an issue since they still

do
their R&D over here
in the silicon valley and a lot of times end up moving people over to
America.

I guess the point at least in the tech sector is that the work is here you
just have to go get it.





Kelly March 28th 04 06:15 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 
Anyways, when somebody call me to offer me any kind of things, i treat
them
with respect because they are working...and sorry...their work is to call
"us" and "bother us" They get paid for just that.


Excellent point Paulo.



Mike March 28th 04 06:22 AM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 

"Byron L. Reed" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:56:05 GMT, wrote:

An outsourced
operation, in a place like India, China, The Philippines, etc.; where

some
greedy American corporation is saving a few pieces of Silver and

displacing
American workers in the process.



That "greedy American corporation" is probably included in the 401(k)
retirement plans of most everybody who reads this. Average American
workers gain from this.

The savings the corporation makes gives them pricing power, causing the
average American worker to spend less money to acquire their goods and
services.

The establishment of business infrastructure in third world companies
require the purchase of capital goods from the United States. This is

good
for average American workers who produce it.

The removal of expensively educated American workers from mundane
operations allows productivity to increase and engenders new business
enterprise in the United States. This is good for average American workers
(who aren't content with being lazy and insisting they keep the same job
for life).

For every non-competitive American job that is moved overseas, many more
poor local people are to work. Thus, many more people are allowed to
improve their lives. This injection of income encourages adoption of a
modern economy, government, and social stability which will reduce the
excuses for terrorism. This is good for average American workers - and
everybody else in the world.

The only people who really lose in the outsourcing equation are members of
outdated and inefficient un-American union labor.


BLReed

I worked for Compaq for seven years. Without warning I was told to go into
the cafeteria for an important anouncement. We were told to go straight to
por lockers, get our stuff and go home. we were not allowed to get our stuff
from our desks. We had to call to make an appointment to retrieve our
belongings. one thousand two hundred jobs went to India. Our average pay was
$14.00 per hour. The people in India who whose education was paid for by
Compaq earn an average of $2.15 per hour.
HP (who owns Compaq) Had profits of eighty-seven Billion dollars last year.
I am still out of a job, and will be applying for welfare when my
Unemployment insurance runs out at the end of April. Most of the people who
were laid off have not found work yet. Can you explain to me once again how
this is good for this country? How did I, personally gain from this?

What is a non-competitive job?
Are you talking about a unskilled job?
Put an ad in the paper saying you are looking for somebody to clean **** for
minimum wage, you will have dozens, if not hundreds of people applying.
EVERY job is competitive.

Mike



rtk March 28th 04 05:51 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection...HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 


Mike wrote:
We were told to go straight to
por lockers, get our stuff and go home. we were not allowed to get our stuff
from our desks. We had to call to make an appointment to retrieve our
belongings.


This seems to be standard procedure. The purpose is to avoid many very
clever and knowledgeable people from gumming up the technical works as
they might very understandably want to do.

rtk


Christ's Soldiers March 29th 04 05:27 PM

When You Hear The Heavy Accent & The Poor Phone Connection... HANG UP!!! _____ lhhiBTjNA
 
In the land of rec.aquaria.marine.reefs, the word of the Lord came
to Byron L. Reed and verily he spoke saying:

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:56:05 GMT, wrote:


Please don't feed the trolls!

--

-John
Because it makes things difficult to understand.
Why shouldn't I top post?


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