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WilsonKKW September 16th 04 12:43 PM

Adding water to pond, QUESTION????
 
I had to add water to pond. I am concerned about the cholrine in the
water..will it hurt tje Koi??
--Kathy

Gale Pearce September 16th 04 02:07 PM

Hi Kathy - a lot of people add dechlor to any new water they add to their
pond - if you have chlorine in your water supply and not chloramine a lot of
us get away without using dechlor as long as the amount you add is not too
much (an inch or so) - I also put together a filter which will take out 95%
of the chlorine in my water if I have to add a large amount (5"+) For the
smaller amounts. I "spray" the water into the pond to help aerate and
dissipate as much chlorine as possible
Gale :~)
"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...
I had to add water to pond. I am concerned about the cholrine in the
water..will it hurt tje Koi??
--Kathy




WilsonKKW September 16th 04 02:50 PM


Maybe not. How much are you adding?


adding about 250 gallons

George September 16th 04 03:46 PM


"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...

Maybe not. How much are you adding?


adding about 250 gallons


How many gallons does your pond hold?



Benign Vanilla September 16th 04 04:17 PM


"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Kathy - a lot of people add dechlor to any new water they add to their
pond - if you have chlorine in your water supply and not chloramine a lot

of
us get away without using dechlor as long as the amount you add is not too
much (an inch or so) - I also put together a filter which will take out

95%
of the chlorine in my water if I have to add a large amount (5"+) For the
smaller amounts. I "spray" the water into the pond to help aerate and
dissipate as much chlorine as possible


Activated charcoal filters become useless over time and will stop removing
chlorine and chloramine. Spraying water over a pond will not knock
chloramine out of the water. There are inexpensive dechlor products on the
market, so IMHO, just buy some and when you add water, add dechlor. That is
the BEST way to ensure the safety of your fish.

We have an article on this topic at
http://www.ilovemypond.com/topic.asp?aid=99170.

BV.

P.S. Some of you may notice the url is ilovemypond and not iheartmypond. We
are currently transfering the iheartmypond site to a new server/ISP so we
have set up ilovemypond.com to assist in the transfer and minimize down
time. When the transition is complete, both URL's will work.



Gale Pearce September 16th 04 05:56 PM

Hi BV - I don't use the Activated Charcoal type - I use the Diaphram type
and the type of filter for the incoming waterline to your home - it says it
is good for 3 - 6 months for home usage , so I am sure @ ~ a couple thousand
gals/yr it will last the whole season if used strictly for the pond before I
need to change it - I have never used dechlor in 10 yrs, just sprayed any
water I added to aerate it and had no problems with chlorine - Actually I
was just reading that dechlor does not remove chloramine from water anyway -
it just "breaks" the bond between chlorine and ammonia (chloramine) so the
chlorine will dissipate and your biofilter takes care of the ammonia - I
don't have the wepage bookmarked anymore, but someone here sent me the link
and it's under "Tip 18"
Gale :~)
"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Kathy - a lot of people add dechlor to any new water they add to

their
pond - if you have chlorine in your water supply and not chloramine a

lot
of
us get away without using dechlor as long as the amount you add is not

too
much (an inch or so) - I also put together a filter which will take out

95%
of the chlorine in my water if I have to add a large amount (5"+) For

the
smaller amounts. I "spray" the water into the pond to help aerate and
dissipate as much chlorine as possible


Activated charcoal filters become useless over time and will stop removing
chlorine and chloramine. Spraying water over a pond will not knock
chloramine out of the water. There are inexpensive dechlor products on the
market, so IMHO, just buy some and when you add water, add dechlor. That

is
the BEST way to ensure the safety of your fish.

We have an article on this topic at
http://www.ilovemypond.com/topic.asp?aid=99170.

BV.

P.S. Some of you may notice the url is ilovemypond and not iheartmypond.

We
are currently transfering the iheartmypond site to a new server/ISP so we
have set up ilovemypond.com to assist in the transfer and minimize down
time. When the transition is complete, both URL's will work.





Derek Broughton September 16th 04 07:47 PM

Gale Pearce wrote:

I have never used dechlor in 10 yrs,
just sprayed any water I added to aerate it and had no problems with


spraying also helps with temperature - your added water may not be pond
temperature, but at least closer to air temperature than your typical water
supply. It's not particularly good to add a solid stream of water that
might be 20F cooler than the pond.

chlorine - Actually I was just reading that dechlor does not remove
chloramine from water anyway - it just "breaks" the bond between chlorine
and ammonia (chloramine) so the chlorine will dissipate and your biofilter


That was definitely true of the old dechlorination products - I don't know
if it's still true. In any case, people tend not to think that chloramine
contains _two_ things that are bad for your fish - chlorine and ammonia

takes care of the ammonia - I don't have the wepage bookmarked anymore,
but someone here sent me the link and it's under "Tip 18"


http://www.pondrushes.net/tips.htm

believe it or not, I just googled: "tip 18" chloramine
--
derek

WilsonKKW September 16th 04 08:13 PM


How many gallons does your pond hold?


ond holds 5000 gallons

Alex Woodward September 16th 04 10:45 PM


"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...
I had to add water to pond. I am concerned about the cholrine in the
water..will it hurt tje Koi??
--Kathy


Why not put a direct water supply to your pond, but have a 'ball cock' to
ensure a supply on demand characteristic. Since water loss via evaporation
is comparatively slow, any water that is added via a 'ball cock valve should
not negatively effect the pond water.

What do you guy's think?

Alex



Snooze September 16th 04 11:37 PM


"WilsonKKW" wrote in message
...

How many gallons does your pond hold?

ond holds 5000 gallons
Maybe not. How much are you adding?

adding about 250 gallons


250 gallons out of 5000 is about 0.5% of the pond's volume. According to
the EPA, drinking water has a residual chlorine level of 0.2 - 6 mg / L. For
the sake of argument, let's assume you live in area that has a higher
chlorine level.
See: http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/chemfact/s_chlori.txt

250 gallons of water gives you 5678 mg of chlorine. Diluted into 5000
gallons of water, that works out to 0.3 mg/L, which is pretty low. If the
water is being circulated by a pump over a waterfall or some other water
feature, the chlorine will dissipate in an hour or less, plenty of bacteria
in the pond water for the chlorine to react with.

If your tap water has 0.2 mg /L chlorine, then your pond will end up with
0.01 mg/L, which is really nothing.

If it helps you sleep at night, toss in a bit of dechlor as well, otherwise
I wouldn't bother. On the otherhand if you filled up half the pond, then I'd
say toss some dechlor in as well.

Snooze





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