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When to plant a new tank?
Basic question on planting a new tank: I'm setting up an Eclipse 6
gallon for my daughter and we'd like it to be moderately planted eventually. I'm going to cycle the tank with FISH (2 danios), as opposed to the method of using only live plants to establish the tank (and then adding the fish later.) So after a few weeks, when the tank is cycled and I'm adding a couple of more fish (cories probably), Is this the time to introduce the live plants, or can I do it earlier? Thanks. |
Nothing prevents you from adding the plants earlier. It should also improve the cycling conditions for the fish. As there is very little mulm in the substrate, pick plants which will also feed from the water, ie: Anachris, Pennywort, Hornwort etc. -- www.NetMax.tk Have you had good luck with Pennywort? All of mine rotted. I went by Petsmart, and they had pennywort in their plant tanks, and it was rotting quite nicely also. I took it out of my tank and put in a pot of dirt on my back porch and it grew great until the frost killed, doh. |
"Ook" wrote in message ... Nothing prevents you from adding the plants earlier. It should also improve the cycling conditions for the fish. As there is very little mulm in the substrate, pick plants which will also feed from the water, ie: Anachris, Pennywort, Hornwort etc. -- www.NetMax.tk Have you had good luck with Pennywort? All of mine rotted. I went by Petsmart, and they had pennywort in their plant tanks, and it was rotting quite nicely also. I took it out of my tank and put in a pot of dirt on my back porch and it grew great until the frost killed, doh. No problem with my pennywort...see pic in alt.binaries.aquaria |
The essential problem is lighting with the Eclipse series. It is totally
inadequate for most live plants. At best, get some Anubias, etc. "Nitesbane" wrote in message news:FMRtd.225$sU4.114@trndny01... "Ook" wrote in message ... Nothing prevents you from adding the plants earlier. It should also improve the cycling conditions for the fish. As there is very little mulm in the substrate, pick plants which will also feed from the water, ie: Anachris, Pennywort, Hornwort etc. -- www.NetMax.tk Have you had good luck with Pennywort? All of mine rotted. I went by Petsmart, and they had pennywort in their plant tanks, and it was rotting quite nicely also. I took it out of my tank and put in a pot of dirt on my back porch and it grew great until the frost killed, doh. No problem with my pennywort...see pic in alt.binaries.aquaria |
I would go to the LFS and ask them for a bucket of water with freshly siphoned mulm from one of their tanks. IME plants do much better in a well established (loads of mulm and bacterial critters) than a newly setup sterile tank. Take a look at Chuck Gadds website, he is quite big on cycling tanks with plants. -- "In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good." "avgeek21" wrote in message oups.com... Basic question on planting a new tank: I'm setting up an Eclipse 6 gallon for my daughter and we'd like it to be moderately planted eventually. I'm going to cycle the tank with FISH (2 danios), as opposed to the method of using only live plants to establish the tank (and then adding the fish later.) So after a few weeks, when the tank is cycled and I'm adding a couple of more fish (cories probably), Is this the time to introduce the live plants, or can I do it earlier? Thanks. |
To help outcompete the algae your best bet is to plant as soon as you can. If will make your life easier in the long run. The plants will suck up nutrients leaving less available for the algae Marc __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _______ Want to win a FREE new co2 system or a lighting system OUR PHOTO CONTEST HAS STARTED http://www.fish-forums.com Http://www.aquatic-store.com On 8 Dec 2004 10:14:40 -0800, "avgeek21" wrote: Basic question on planting a new tank: I'm setting up an Eclipse 6 gallon for my daughter and we'd like it to be moderately planted eventually. I'm going to cycle the tank with FISH (2 danios), as opposed to the method of using only live plants to establish the tank (and then adding the fish later.) So after a few weeks, when the tank is cycled and I'm adding a couple of more fish (cories probably), Is this the time to introduce the live plants, or can I do it earlier? Thanks. |
Happy'Cam'per wrote: I would go to the LFS and ask them for a bucket of water with freshly siphoned mulm from one of their tanks. Thanks for all the advice. Sounds like I'll go with some anubias and maybe a java fern, and also get a better bulb for the light fixture. One question: what is "mulm"? Sounds like something they make people eat on fear factor or something?! Thanks again. |
"Nitesbane" wrote in message news:FMRtd.225$sU4.114@trndny01... "Ook" wrote in message ... Nothing prevents you from adding the plants earlier. It should also improve the cycling conditions for the fish. As there is very little mulm in the substrate, pick plants which will also feed from the water, ie: Anachris, Pennywort, Hornwort etc. -- www.NetMax.tk Have you had good luck with Pennywort? All of mine rotted. I went by Petsmart, and they had pennywort in their plant tanks, and it was rotting quite nicely also. I took it out of my tank and put in a pot of dirt on my back porch and it grew great until the frost killed, doh. No problem with my pennywort...see pic in alt.binaries.aquaria Where is the pennywort? I see something at my LFS labeled as pennywort, but it doesn't look anything like what I see in the pic you posted. And, BTW, what are those other plants in the pic? |
"Ook" wrote in message ... "Nitesbane" wrote in message news:FMRtd.225$sU4.114@trndny01... No problem with my pennywort...see pic in alt.binaries.aquaria Where is the pennywort? I see something at my LFS labeled as pennywort, but it doesn't look anything like what I see in the pic you posted. And, BTW, what are those other plants in the pic? The pennywort you see in the picture was originally purchased at Petco. Each plant consisted of a single stem with only one leaf at the very top and looked nothing like the plant you see in the pic (the one with the round leaves and roots growing everywhere that reaches the surface of the tank). It took almost two weeks from the plant to go from its original state to what it looks like now. The other plants in the picture a chladophora aegagropila - "moss ball" - in the bottom right corner Cratoneuron filicinum (?) - "christmas moss" - attached to the driftwood Sagittaria subulata - "dwarf sag" - the short, light colored green "grass" vallisneria spiralis (?) - "italian val" - longer, darker green "grass" toward the back of the tank nymphaea stellata - "water lily" - plant with reddish/brownish/greenish arrow-shaped leaves... hard to see in the pic There are small portions of water sprite and one of my crypts in the pic too. I just posted a pic of what it looked like when I first got it. |
Mulm is the crap that sits at the bottom of your bucket after a good deep gravel vacuuming. Loads of BIO activity going on in there. -- "In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good." "avgeek21" wrote in message ups.com... Happy'Cam'per wrote: I would go to the LFS and ask them for a bucket of water with freshly siphoned mulm from one of their tanks. Thanks for all the advice. Sounds like I'll go with some anubias and maybe a java fern, and also get a better bulb for the light fixture. One question: what is "mulm"? Sounds like something they make people eat on fear factor or something?! Thanks again. |
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