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Nikki Casali December 28th 04 05:29 PM

Nutrients
 
I think my Hydrocotyle appears to be showing a nutrient deficiency. Can
anyone give a guess? http://www.ncasali.demon.co.uk/HYDROCOTYLE.JPG

I've been dosing potassium daily for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any
improvement in plant growth. Last night, I thought I'd dose a week's
worth of K and this evening the phosphate level plummeted to 0.18 mg/L
from a constant 0.50 mg/L.

Last night, I also shifted the time at which the lights come on to
coincide with sunrise. They usually come on 2 hours after sunrise and I
bet the limited light diffusing into the aquarium for that 2 hour period
aids algae growth. Strange thing is, the Cabomba never fully opened
today, even though it is pearling. I wonder why? Maybe it's circadian
cycle has been disrupted or maybe the added K has had an effect?

I'm thinking of ditching my Echinodorus x barthii and allowing my
watersprite to take over the area. The Echinodorus shades a huge amount
of the aquarium and it is outgrowing the 24" depth. The leaves are
bending over double and are as close as 2" to the fluorescent bulbs. I
think the black beard algae is loving it there. This is where most of it
originated from.


Nikki


Allyb December 29th 04 02:09 PM

You didn't mention iron, and that looks like an iron deficiency to me.


"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
...
I think my Hydrocotyle appears to be showing a nutrient deficiency. Can
anyone give a guess? http://www.ncasali.demon.co.uk/HYDROCOTYLE.JPG

I've been dosing potassium daily for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any
improvement in plant growth. Last night, I thought I'd dose a week's
worth of K and this evening the phosphate level plummeted to 0.18 mg/L
from a constant 0.50 mg/L.

Last night, I also shifted the time at which the lights come on to
coincide with sunrise. They usually come on 2 hours after sunrise and I
bet the limited light diffusing into the aquarium for that 2 hour period
aids algae growth. Strange thing is, the Cabomba never fully opened
today, even though it is pearling. I wonder why? Maybe it's circadian
cycle has been disrupted or maybe the added K has had an effect?

I'm thinking of ditching my Echinodorus x barthii and allowing my
watersprite to take over the area. The Echinodorus shades a huge amount
of the aquarium and it is outgrowing the 24" depth. The leaves are
bending over double and are as close as 2" to the fluorescent bulbs. I
think the black beard algae is loving it there. This is where most of it
originated from.


Nikki




Nikki Casali December 29th 04 03:04 PM

No, iron has not been consciously dosed.

Big water changes have stopped. I'll do maybe a 3% a week just to vacuum
the sand. Presumably, the plants were getting a little iron from the
mains tap water. The fish are only fed once a day now. With the aid of a
pH controller, the CO2 level is maintained at 25 ppm.

I haven't seen this type of contrasting of the veins and leaf since
plants were put in 4 months ago. Interestingly, the leaves of the
Hydrocotyle have never grown so flat and delicate before. Usually the
edges would curl down quite a lot and eventually gather green spot
algae. The older leaves still gather a little black hair algae around
the edges, like someone's gone around with eyeliner.

I've just added a weekly dose of Botanica Grow and Micro for the first
time. Let's see if the leaves green up a bit....and the BBA abates.

Nikki

Allyb wrote:
You didn't mention iron, and that looks like an iron deficiency to me.


"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
...

I think my Hydrocotyle appears to be showing a nutrient deficiency. Can
anyone give a guess? http://www.ncasali.demon.co.uk/HYDROCOTYLE.JPG

I've been dosing potassium daily for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any
improvement in plant growth. Last night, I thought I'd dose a week's
worth of K and this evening the phosphate level plummeted to 0.18 mg/L
from a constant 0.50 mg/L.

Last night, I also shifted the time at which the lights come on to
coincide with sunrise. They usually come on 2 hours after sunrise and I
bet the limited light diffusing into the aquarium for that 2 hour period
aids algae growth. Strange thing is, the Cabomba never fully opened
today, even though it is pearling. I wonder why? Maybe it's circadian
cycle has been disrupted or maybe the added K has had an effect?

I'm thinking of ditching my Echinodorus x barthii and allowing my
watersprite to take over the area. The Echinodorus shades a huge amount
of the aquarium and it is outgrowing the 24" depth. The leaves are
bending over double and are as close as 2" to the fluorescent bulbs. I
think the black beard algae is loving it there. This is where most of it
originated from.


Nikki






Jürgen Beisser December 30th 04 01:22 PM

Hi,

some answers can be found he
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_nutrient.htm

Bye
Juergen


"Nikki Casali" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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No, iron has not been consciously dosed.

Big water changes have stopped. I'll do maybe a 3% a week just to vacuum
the sand. Presumably, the plants were getting a little iron from the mains
tap water. The fish are only fed once a day now. With the aid of a pH
controller, the CO2 level is maintained at 25 ppm.

I haven't seen this type of contrasting of the veins and leaf since plants
were put in 4 months ago. Interestingly, the leaves of the Hydrocotyle
have never grown so flat and delicate before. Usually the edges would curl
down quite a lot and eventually gather green spot algae. The older leaves
still gather a little black hair algae around the edges, like someone's
gone around with eyeliner.

I've just added a weekly dose of Botanica Grow and Micro for the first
time. Let's see if the leaves green up a bit....and the BBA abates.

Nikki

Allyb wrote:
You didn't mention iron, and that looks like an iron deficiency to me.


"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
...

I think my Hydrocotyle appears to be showing a nutrient deficiency. Can
anyone give a guess? http://www.ncasali.demon.co.uk/HYDROCOTYLE.JPG

I've been dosing potassium daily for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any
improvement in plant growth. Last night, I thought I'd dose a week's
worth of K and this evening the phosphate level plummeted to 0.18 mg/L
from a constant 0.50 mg/L.

Last night, I also shifted the time at which the lights come on to
coincide with sunrise. They usually come on 2 hours after sunrise and I
bet the limited light diffusing into the aquarium for that 2 hour period
aids algae growth. Strange thing is, the Cabomba never fully opened
today, even though it is pearling. I wonder why? Maybe it's circadian
cycle has been disrupted or maybe the added K has had an effect?

I'm thinking of ditching my Echinodorus x barthii and allowing my
watersprite to take over the area. The Echinodorus shades a huge amount
of the aquarium and it is outgrowing the 24" depth. The leaves are
bending over double and are as close as 2" to the fluorescent bulbs. I
think the black beard algae is loving it there. This is where most of it
originated from.


Nikki







[email protected] January 1st 05 12:31 AM

Interesting. Apparently, my tank is missing calcium.


Nikki Casali January 5th 05 06:38 PM

I dosed enough Fe to get the tank to 0.25 mg/L. PO4 suddenly fell from
0.30 mg/L to 0.07 mg/L within 16 hours. Wow! The leaves of the
Hydrocotyle still remain pale. I have very hard water. I presume Mg is
never deficient in hard water, but I hear that an oversupply can block
Fe. The Hydrocotyle is the only plant that looks like it's struggling.

Nikki

Allyb wrote:

You didn't mention iron, and that looks like an iron deficiency to me.


"Nikki Casali" wrote in message
...

I think my Hydrocotyle appears to be showing a nutrient deficiency. Can
anyone give a guess? http://www.ncasali.demon.co.uk/HYDROCOTYLE.JPG

I've been dosing potassium daily for a few weeks. I haven't noticed any
improvement in plant growth. Last night, I thought I'd dose a week's
worth of K and this evening the phosphate level plummeted to 0.18 mg/L
from a constant 0.50 mg/L.

Last night, I also shifted the time at which the lights come on to
coincide with sunrise. They usually come on 2 hours after sunrise and I
bet the limited light diffusing into the aquarium for that 2 hour period
aids algae growth. Strange thing is, the Cabomba never fully opened
today, even though it is pearling. I wonder why? Maybe it's circadian
cycle has been disrupted or maybe the added K has had an effect?

I'm thinking of ditching my Echinodorus x barthii and allowing my
watersprite to take over the area. The Echinodorus shades a huge amount
of the aquarium and it is outgrowing the 24" depth. The leaves are
bending over double and are as close as 2" to the fluorescent bulbs. I
think the black beard algae is loving it there. This is where most of it
originated from.


Nikki







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