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Mort August 20th 03 02:50 AM

FAQ Review
 
I did read the FAQ a couple of months ago.

However, in my effort to take my time, I am starting to forget some things.

I think I might be going to slow... I took a month to set, level and fill
my tank lol!



Anyway, to the point.

If I have a 75 gal FO tank with a DSB and "some" live rock in conjuction
with a wet/dry and a crappy skimmer.... Will I need High Output lights or
will NO Fluorescents do?

I think I remeber reading that the critters in the LR needed the high lights
but I cant find that.

Any help appreciated.

~Mort




Mort August 20th 03 04:46 AM

FAQ Review
 

"Teeb" wrote in message
...
I have two 40 watt NO lights on my tank and the live rock does just fine.
It's a 55 gallon tank. I am using coralife bulbs.. a 10kK and an actinic..
probably going to replace the actinic with a 50/50 as it's a bit too much
blue into the tank with the full actinic. I have a huge ricordia that
dropped off a baby a couple months ago, tons of polyps of various types..
all these supposedly require much better lighting than what I have, but it
works just great so far. My personal opinion is go with the NO's and see

if
you like it ok. Mine consist of a Lights of America brand two light shop
fixture that I have sitting right on top of the tank. This one has the
reflectors that come all the way down the side, unlike other cheap
shoplights which HAVE to be suspended because there would be nothing to

rest
them on except the bulbs. It only cost me $8 at Home Depot. I wish I could
find another one.. Lights of America doesn't seem to be a viable company
anymore..


I know what you are talking about. I have seen them before but I read that
they tear through your bulbs real fast and you dont get the right wattagr
from the bulbs because the ballasts are cheap. I'm not knocking it though,
I'll prolly end up going that route myself. I want to get some blue and
white lights going and this little perfecto hood I have is NOT going to cut
it!


What kind of *crappy* skimmer are you talking about?


Why a Seclone of course. What other crappy skimmers are there ;)

Some are crappy in
terms of not working well even though they cost alot. Inexpensive doesn't
make them crappy. I have a Berlin 60 on my 55 and I love it.. it was only
$40. I have a Prism on a 10 gallon tank (it used to be on the 55) and it
only cost me something like $40 to $50.. I don't recall exactly. Some

don't
like the Prism, I like it just fine. This hobby does not *have* to be
extremely expensive.
I will have to let someone else comment on the wet/dry.. I do not run one,
nor do I have a DSB.

Teeb


Thanks Teeb


"Mort" wrote in message
.com...
I did read the FAQ a couple of months ago.

However, in my effort to take my time, I am starting to forget some

things.

I think I might be going to slow... I took a month to set, level and

fill
my tank lol!



Anyway, to the point.

If I have a 75 gal FO tank with a DSB and "some" live rock in conjuction
with a wet/dry and a crappy skimmer.... Will I need High Output lights

or
will NO Fluorescents do?

I think I remeber reading that the critters in the LR needed the high

lights
but I cant find that.

Any help appreciated.

~Mort








Lori August 20th 03 02:21 PM

FAQ Review
 
Spend the money now and get better lighting, I too had regular NO's they are
not very good if you plan on keeping corals, yes while some have alright
luck with them most don't. Your corals will do much much better with PC's,
VHO's, or metal's!! I tried the root of NO's they were ok for fish only
tanks, went to VHO's and man what a difference, corals opened up and have
almost doubled from the NO's, much more colour in the corals and the whole
tank is much brighter. Spend the money now on better lighting or you will
end up spending even more down the road. Hope this helps!

"Mort" wrote in message
.com...

"Teeb" wrote in message
...
I have two 40 watt NO lights on my tank and the live rock does just

fine.
It's a 55 gallon tank. I am using coralife bulbs.. a 10kK and an

actinic..
probably going to replace the actinic with a 50/50 as it's a bit too

much
blue into the tank with the full actinic. I have a huge ricordia that
dropped off a baby a couple months ago, tons of polyps of various

types..
all these supposedly require much better lighting than what I have, but

it
works just great so far. My personal opinion is go with the NO's and

see
if
you like it ok. Mine consist of a Lights of America brand two light shop
fixture that I have sitting right on top of the tank. This one has the
reflectors that come all the way down the side, unlike other cheap
shoplights which HAVE to be suspended because there would be nothing to

rest
them on except the bulbs. It only cost me $8 at Home Depot. I wish I

could
find another one.. Lights of America doesn't seem to be a viable company
anymore..


I know what you are talking about. I have seen them before but I read

that
they tear through your bulbs real fast and you dont get the right wattagr
from the bulbs because the ballasts are cheap. I'm not knocking it

though,
I'll prolly end up going that route myself. I want to get some blue and
white lights going and this little perfecto hood I have is NOT going to

cut
it!


What kind of *crappy* skimmer are you talking about?


Why a Seclone of course. What other crappy skimmers are there ;)

Some are crappy in
terms of not working well even though they cost alot. Inexpensive

doesn't
make them crappy. I have a Berlin 60 on my 55 and I love it.. it was

only
$40. I have a Prism on a 10 gallon tank (it used to be on the 55) and it
only cost me something like $40 to $50.. I don't recall exactly. Some

don't
like the Prism, I like it just fine. This hobby does not *have* to be
extremely expensive.
I will have to let someone else comment on the wet/dry.. I do not run

one,
nor do I have a DSB.

Teeb


Thanks Teeb


"Mort" wrote in message
.com...
I did read the FAQ a couple of months ago.

However, in my effort to take my time, I am starting to forget some

things.

I think I might be going to slow... I took a month to set, level and

fill
my tank lol!



Anyway, to the point.

If I have a 75 gal FO tank with a DSB and "some" live rock in

conjuction
with a wet/dry and a crappy skimmer.... Will I need High Output

lights
or
will NO Fluorescents do?

I think I remeber reading that the critters in the LR needed the high

lights
but I cant find that.

Any help appreciated.

~Mort










Mort August 20th 03 02:26 PM

FAQ Review
 
Okay, I guess I'll bite the bullet. (I'll just have to keep it from my wife
for a while lol)

What is the best DIY place to go? hellolights seems pretty good. Any
others?

TIA

~Mort

"Lori" wrote in message
...
Spend the money now and get better lighting, I too had regular NO's they

are
not very good if you plan on keeping corals, yes while some have alright
luck with them most don't. Your corals will do much much better with

PC's,
VHO's, or metal's!! I tried the root of NO's they were ok for fish only
tanks, went to VHO's and man what a difference, corals opened up and have
almost doubled from the NO's, much more colour in the corals and the whole
tank is much brighter. Spend the money now on better lighting or you will
end up spending even more down the road. Hope this helps!

"Mort" wrote in message
.com...

"Teeb" wrote in message
...
I have two 40 watt NO lights on my tank and the live rock does just

fine.
It's a 55 gallon tank. I am using coralife bulbs.. a 10kK and an

actinic..
probably going to replace the actinic with a 50/50 as it's a bit too

much
blue into the tank with the full actinic. I have a huge ricordia that
dropped off a baby a couple months ago, tons of polyps of various

types..
all these supposedly require much better lighting than what I have,

but
it
works just great so far. My personal opinion is go with the NO's and

see
if
you like it ok. Mine consist of a Lights of America brand two light

shop
fixture that I have sitting right on top of the tank. This one has the
reflectors that come all the way down the side, unlike other cheap
shoplights which HAVE to be suspended because there would be nothing

to
rest
them on except the bulbs. It only cost me $8 at Home Depot. I wish I

could
find another one.. Lights of America doesn't seem to be a viable

company
anymore..


I know what you are talking about. I have seen them before but I read

that
they tear through your bulbs real fast and you dont get the right

wattagr
from the bulbs because the ballasts are cheap. I'm not knocking it

though,
I'll prolly end up going that route myself. I want to get some blue and
white lights going and this little perfecto hood I have is NOT going to

cut
it!


What kind of *crappy* skimmer are you talking about?


Why a Seclone of course. What other crappy skimmers are there ;)

Some are crappy in
terms of not working well even though they cost alot. Inexpensive

doesn't
make them crappy. I have a Berlin 60 on my 55 and I love it.. it was

only
$40. I have a Prism on a 10 gallon tank (it used to be on the 55) and

it
only cost me something like $40 to $50.. I don't recall exactly. Some

don't
like the Prism, I like it just fine. This hobby does not *have* to be
extremely expensive.
I will have to let someone else comment on the wet/dry.. I do not run

one,
nor do I have a DSB.

Teeb


Thanks Teeb


"Mort" wrote in message
.com...
I did read the FAQ a couple of months ago.

However, in my effort to take my time, I am starting to forget some
things.

I think I might be going to slow... I took a month to set, level

and
fill
my tank lol!



Anyway, to the point.

If I have a 75 gal FO tank with a DSB and "some" live rock in

conjuction
with a wet/dry and a crappy skimmer.... Will I need High Output

lights
or
will NO Fluorescents do?

I think I remeber reading that the critters in the LR needed the

high
lights
but I cant find that.

Any help appreciated.

~Mort












Teeb August 20th 03 03:13 PM

FAQ Review
 
He's talking about a FO tank... with some live rock. He would do just fine
with NO for the time being. Most people do, I think, end up wanting more of
a reef setup later on though, lol.. but I think for starting out with just
fish and live rock, NO is perfectly acceptable. Just my 2cents..

Teeb



Mort August 20th 03 06:33 PM

FAQ Review
 
Please refer to the new thread (Coralife Aqualight Question) for my
response...



PaulB August 20th 03 06:43 PM

FAQ Review
 
Even if you keep corals you don't necessarily need really bright lights.
There are plenty of low light and non-photosynthetic animals wich
will do fine with little light.



Mort wrote:
I did read the FAQ a couple of months ago.

However, in my effort to take my time, I am starting to forget some things.

I think I might be going to slow... I took a month to set, level and fill
my tank lol!



Anyway, to the point.

If I have a 75 gal FO tank with a DSB and "some" live rock in conjuction
with a wet/dry and a crappy skimmer.... Will I need High Output lights or
will NO Fluorescents do?

I think I remeber reading that the critters in the LR needed the high lights
but I cant find that.

Any help appreciated.

~Mort






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