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Larry W August 23rd 03 10:20 PM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 
Two months ago I lost the air conditioned in the house for a week. The tank
got way too hot and I lost a lot of stuff. I lost during the crash a
porcelain crab, decorator crab, anemone crab, 2 shrimp and 2 emerald crabs.
I have since replaced 4 different kinds of hermits, 3 kinds of snails, 3
anemones, some fish, cucumber, nudabranch, horseshoe crab and 2 emerald
crabs. Yesterday I found one emerald crab sitting pretty as you please on
top of my mushroom leather, dead, today I found the other one sitting on
some rocks, dead. Everything else seems ok as does that water parameters.
The skimmer is working just fine. The salt is a little low at 1.021.
Any Ideas on what could have killed the emerald crabs. In the past I have
had little luck with them also.

Thanks



Teeb August 23rd 03 11:43 PM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 
Are you 110% *sure* it's really the crab and not just the molting..? It sure
can look an awful lot like a whole dead crab when they do that...

Teeb

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
Two months ago I lost the air conditioned in the house for a week. The

tank
got way too hot and I lost a lot of stuff. I lost during the crash a
porcelain crab, decorator crab, anemone crab, 2 shrimp and 2 emerald

crabs.
I have since replaced 4 different kinds of hermits, 3 kinds of snails, 3
anemones, some fish, cucumber, nudabranch, horseshoe crab and 2 emerald
crabs. Yesterday I found one emerald crab sitting pretty as you please on
top of my mushroom leather, dead, today I found the other one sitting on
some rocks, dead. Everything else seems ok as does that water parameters.
The skimmer is working just fine. The salt is a little low at 1.021.
Any Ideas on what could have killed the emerald crabs. In the past I have
had little luck with them also.

Thanks





Larry W August 24th 03 06:55 AM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 
It never dawned on me that they molted like other crabs. DUH!!! Ill check.
However I don't see them often, I hadn't seen them in 2 weeks.

Thanks.


"Teeb" wrote in message
...
Are you 110% *sure* it's really the crab and not just the molting..? It

sure
can look an awful lot like a whole dead crab when they do that...

Teeb

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
Two months ago I lost the air conditioned in the house for a week. The

tank
got way too hot and I lost a lot of stuff. I lost during the crash a
porcelain crab, decorator crab, anemone crab, 2 shrimp and 2 emerald

crabs.
I have since replaced 4 different kinds of hermits, 3 kinds of snails, 3
anemones, some fish, cucumber, nudabranch, horseshoe crab and 2 emerald
crabs. Yesterday I found one emerald crab sitting pretty as you please

on
top of my mushroom leather, dead, today I found the other one sitting on
some rocks, dead. Everything else seems ok as does that water

parameters.
The skimmer is working just fine. The salt is a little low at 1.021.
Any Ideas on what could have killed the emerald crabs. In the past I

have
had little luck with them also.

Thanks







Larry W August 24th 03 07:25 AM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 
still looks like the crab to me. Since I cant find any.

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
It never dawned on me that they molted like other crabs. DUH!!! Ill check.
However I don't see them often, I hadn't seen them in 2 weeks.

Thanks.


"Teeb" wrote in message
...
Are you 110% *sure* it's really the crab and not just the molting..? It

sure
can look an awful lot like a whole dead crab when they do that...

Teeb

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
Two months ago I lost the air conditioned in the house for a week. The

tank
got way too hot and I lost a lot of stuff. I lost during the crash a
porcelain crab, decorator crab, anemone crab, 2 shrimp and 2 emerald

crabs.
I have since replaced 4 different kinds of hermits, 3 kinds of snails,

3
anemones, some fish, cucumber, nudabranch, horseshoe crab and 2

emerald
crabs. Yesterday I found one emerald crab sitting pretty as you please

on
top of my mushroom leather, dead, today I found the other one sitting

on
some rocks, dead. Everything else seems ok as does that water

parameters.
The skimmer is working just fine. The salt is a little low at 1.021.
Any Ideas on what could have killed the emerald crabs. In the past I

have
had little luck with them also.

Thanks









david August 24th 03 09:05 AM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 

It never dawned on me that they molted like other crabs. DUH!!! Ill check.
However I don't see them often, I hadn't seen them in 2 weeks.


crabs will have soft shells after a molt and hide from predators



wobble August 27th 03 03:32 PM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 
I thought crabs (and shrimps and suchlike) are really sensitive to osmotic
changes...

If loads of water has evaporated due to high heat thus raising the SG and
then you top up with fresh water in one go... thus lowering the SG the
crabs will really suffer..

Same as if you do a waterchange with a drastically different SG... you say
its only 1.021, what is it normally

Do you have an auto top up system?

Im pretty sure this is the case.. never happened to me but like i say im
sure ive read it somewhere, read loads though and can never remember it all

Could be a shell mind....

W


"Larry W" wrote in message
...
Two months ago I lost the air conditioned in the house for a week. The

tank
got way too hot and I lost a lot of stuff. I lost during the crash a
porcelain crab, decorator crab, anemone crab, 2 shrimp and 2 emerald

crabs.
I have since replaced 4 different kinds of hermits, 3 kinds of snails, 3
anemones, some fish, cucumber, nudabranch, horseshoe crab and 2 emerald
crabs. Yesterday I found one emerald crab sitting pretty as you please on
top of my mushroom leather, dead, today I found the other one sitting on
some rocks, dead. Everything else seems ok as does that water parameters.
The skimmer is working just fine. The salt is a little low at 1.021.
Any Ideas on what could have killed the emerald crabs. In the past I have
had little luck with them also.

Thanks





Larry W August 27th 03 07:29 PM

Whats killing my Emerald Crabs?
 
yes I have an auto top off system, but after the air conditioner and thus
the tank crash the SG was 1.021 when I added the crabs, I upped it to 1.022
over 2 days and am going to 1.023. It could have been the problem. I will
get more shrimp and a sally lightfoot next week and the SG should be
constant at 1.023 by then.

Thanks

"wobble" wrote in message
...
I thought crabs (and shrimps and suchlike) are really sensitive to osmotic
changes...

If loads of water has evaporated due to high heat thus raising the SG and
then you top up with fresh water in one go... thus lowering the SG the
crabs will really suffer..

Same as if you do a waterchange with a drastically different SG... you say
its only 1.021, what is it normally

Do you have an auto top up system?

Im pretty sure this is the case.. never happened to me but like i say im
sure ive read it somewhere, read loads though and can never remember it

all

Could be a shell mind....

W


"Larry W" wrote in message
...
Two months ago I lost the air conditioned in the house for a week. The

tank
got way too hot and I lost a lot of stuff. I lost during the crash a
porcelain crab, decorator crab, anemone crab, 2 shrimp and 2 emerald

crabs.
I have since replaced 4 different kinds of hermits, 3 kinds of snails, 3
anemones, some fish, cucumber, nudabranch, horseshoe crab and 2 emerald
crabs. Yesterday I found one emerald crab sitting pretty as you please

on
top of my mushroom leather, dead, today I found the other one sitting on
some rocks, dead. Everything else seems ok as does that water

parameters.
The skimmer is working just fine. The salt is a little low at 1.021.
Any Ideas on what could have killed the emerald crabs. In the past I

have
had little luck with them also.

Thanks








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