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Flyboy February 21st 05 01:01 AM

Drilling Aquarium
 
Hello Everyone:

I have a 135 gal tank which is dormant (dry). I was in the hobby a few years
ago and gave it up. Now, I'm thinking about getting back into it and would
like to try something different. To get the flow I need, I'd like to drill a
hole (or two) in the bottom of the tank and build an overflow box
(internal).

Q1. Should I have two holes? (one on each side)

Q2. Should I have the return come back up through the overflow? (I was
thinking of putting the return on the other side of the tank)

I've seen some different configurations and was wondering what is the right
thing to do. I figured some of you probably have some experience with this
and I'm hoping to get the pros and the cons of having an internal overflow
and return.

Thanks in advance.




Xerces February 21st 05 01:13 AM

I have a 66gal tank that is drilled. It currently only has two holes;
overflow and return. Do yourself a fav and get at least 4 done. Two
overflows and two returns. (S)he how laughs last had a backup!

I have had a few wet floors from a clogged overflow. Next time round I
will have a total of 6 holes. Two overflows, two returns and a closed
loop.


Regards,

Xerces

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:01:05 -0500, "Flyboy" no
wrote:

Hello Everyone:

I have a 135 gal tank which is dormant (dry). I was in the hobby a few years
ago and gave it up. Now, I'm thinking about getting back into it and would
like to try something different. To get the flow I need, I'd like to drill a
hole (or two) in the bottom of the tank and build an overflow box
(internal).

Q1. Should I have two holes? (one on each side)

Q2. Should I have the return come back up through the overflow? (I was
thinking of putting the return on the other side of the tank)

I've seen some different configurations and was wondering what is the right
thing to do. I figured some of you probably have some experience with this
and I'm hoping to get the pros and the cons of having an internal overflow
and return.

Thanks in advance.




Flyboy February 21st 05 06:54 AM

Thanks for the info!

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "closed loop"?
"Xerces" wrote in message
...
I have a 66gal tank that is drilled. It currently only has two holes;
overflow and return. Do yourself a fav and get at least 4 done. Two
overflows and two returns. (S)he how laughs last had a backup!

I have had a few wet floors from a clogged overflow. Next time round I
will have a total of 6 holes. Two overflows, two returns and a closed
loop.


Regards,

Xerces

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:01:05 -0500, "Flyboy" no
wrote:

Hello Everyone:

I have a 135 gal tank which is dormant (dry). I was in the hobby a few
years
ago and gave it up. Now, I'm thinking about getting back into it and would
like to try something different. To get the flow I need, I'd like to drill
a
hole (or two) in the bottom of the tank and build an overflow box
(internal).

Q1. Should I have two holes? (one on each side)

Q2. Should I have the return come back up through the overflow? (I was
thinking of putting the return on the other side of the tank)

I've seen some different configurations and was wondering what is the
right
thing to do. I figured some of you probably have some experience with this
and I'm hoping to get the pros and the cons of having an internal overflow
and return.

Thanks in advance.






[email protected] February 22nd 05 09:11 PM

Closed loop water come in one side and out the other. Just a way of
adding more flow.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 01:54:13 -0500, "Flyboy" wrote:

Thanks for the info!

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "closed loop"?
"Xerces" wrote in message
.. .
I have a 66gal tank that is drilled. It currently only has two holes;
overflow and return. Do yourself a fav and get at least 4 done. Two
overflows and two returns. (S)he how laughs last had a backup!

I have had a few wet floors from a clogged overflow. Next time round I
will have a total of 6 holes. Two overflows, two returns and a closed
loop.


Regards,

Xerces

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:01:05 -0500, "Flyboy" no
wrote:

Hello Everyone:

I have a 135 gal tank which is dormant (dry). I was in the hobby a few
years
ago and gave it up. Now, I'm thinking about getting back into it and would
like to try something different. To get the flow I need, I'd like to drill
a
hole (or two) in the bottom of the tank and build an overflow box
(internal).

Q1. Should I have two holes? (one on each side)

Q2. Should I have the return come back up through the overflow? (I was
thinking of putting the return on the other side of the tank)

I've seen some different configurations and was wondering what is the
right
thing to do. I figured some of you probably have some experience with this
and I'm hoping to get the pros and the cons of having an internal overflow
and return.

Thanks in advance.






[email protected] February 22nd 05 09:14 PM

Mark has as great page on a setup for a non-drilled tank here

http://www.melevsreef.com/closedloop.html



George Pontis February 23rd 05 04:03 AM

In article , "Flyboy" no spam
says...
Hello Everyone:

I have a 135 gal tank which is dormant (dry). I was in the hobby a few years
ago and gave it up. Now, I'm thinking about getting back into it and would
like to try something different. To get the flow I need, I'd like to drill a
hole (or two) in the bottom of the tank and build an overflow box
(internal).

Q1. Should I have two holes? (one on each side)

Q2. Should I have the return come back up through the overflow? (I was
thinking of putting the return on the other side of the tank)


Hmmm, exactly what I want to do also. Here is what I have learned:

A typical configuration for that size tank is an overflow in each back corner of
the tank, each with a 1" drain and 3/4 return. The return often has an adjustable
nozzle that can be directed toward the center of the tank so the water circulates
back to the overflow and does not just short circuit back into the intake.

Some manufacturers sell kits to equip their pre-drilled aquariums. For example,
you can take a look at the AGA Megaflow. It is in the AGA catalog and on-line, for
example go to DrsFosterAndSmith.com and search on overflow. What I have not seen
for sale is the overflow barrier with the toothed grate at the top. This piece is
fairly specific to the construction of the aquarium. The AGA kit is pretty
expensive. Barr Aquatic (
http://www.barraquatic.com/overflows.php ) sells
overflows for retrofit that mount differently but might work for you.

You could probably buy the bulkhead fittings ( thatfishplace.com ) and fashion a
standpipe ( http://www.dursostandpipes.com/ ) and spraybar with excellent results.
Some say that a 1" drain is marginal. Seems hard to believe, but the cost to step
up to 1.25" or 1.5" is small except for ball valves.

There is one detail that should be mentioned. Most (all ?) glass tanks of that
size have tempered bottoms that are not drillable. So I assume that you are
working with an acrylic tank ?

George


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