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Samuel Warren March 20th 05 02:22 AM

Brown Rust like coating
 
I have 4 tanks, in particular a 10 gallon planted tank with 2 very small
African mixed cichlids, and 6 black neon tetras. I have been scrubbing the
glass about once a week to remove a brown rust looking growth. The pump
inlet tube also gets coated with this brown residue, as well as the Aquarium
safe polished stones and pebbles. The substrate is Eco-complete for planted
aquariums. Some of the larger leaves of some of the plants are also getting
a brown deposit. What can I do to get rid of this, without tearing down the
whole tank? The tank has been in operation for about a full month and
appears to be fully cycled at this point.

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM




Samuel Warren March 20th 05 02:27 AM

Oh I forgot to add I also have an Otto in the tank trying to do his
additional work of cleaning duties.

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM

"Samuel Warren" wrote in message
...
I have 4 tanks, in particular a 10 gallon planted tank with 2 very small
African mixed cichlids, and 6 black neon tetras. I have been scrubbing

the
glass about once a week to remove a brown rust looking growth. The pump
inlet tube also gets coated with this brown residue, as well as the

Aquarium
safe polished stones and pebbles. The substrate is Eco-complete for

planted
aquariums. Some of the larger leaves of some of the plants are also

getting
a brown deposit. What can I do to get rid of this, without tearing down

the
whole tank? The tank has been in operation for about a full month and
appears to be fully cycled at this point.

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM






anemone March 20th 05 09:56 AM

I had this in my tanks too. Its brown algae. I got so fed up with seeing it
all over everything that i got myself a UV sterilliser.....it does wonders.
I have a Pondmaster 11w UV hooked up
"Samuel Warren" wrote in message
...
I have 4 tanks, in particular a 10 gallon planted tank with 2 very small
African mixed cichlids, and 6 black neon tetras. I have been scrubbing
the
glass about once a week to remove a brown rust looking growth. The pump
inlet tube also gets coated with this brown residue, as well as the
Aquarium
safe polished stones and pebbles. The substrate is Eco-complete for
planted
aquariums. Some of the larger leaves of some of the plants are also
getting
a brown deposit. What can I do to get rid of this, without tearing down
the
whole tank? The tank has been in operation for about a full month and
appears to be fully cycled at this point.

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM






Justin Boucher March 20th 05 07:38 PM

You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly set up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks to 2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the end of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive is not
a source).

Another option would be red algae, I usually get this dark maroon algae at
the water return spouts. Again, I'm not too concerned about it there so
long as it doesn't impede the water flow and grow out of control.

The post about the UV can be a good suggestion. I have one on my tank and
they can severely help control waterborne algae and parasites (like ick).

Justin
A sterile tank is a deadly tank.

"Samuel Warren" wrote in message
...
I have 4 tanks, in particular a 10 gallon planted tank with 2 very small
African mixed cichlids, and 6 black neon tetras. I have been scrubbing

the
glass about once a week to remove a brown rust looking growth. The pump
inlet tube also gets coated with this brown residue, as well as the

Aquarium
safe polished stones and pebbles. The substrate is Eco-complete for

planted
aquariums. Some of the larger leaves of some of the plants are also

getting
a brown deposit. What can I do to get rid of this, without tearing down

the
whole tank? The tank has been in operation for about a full month and
appears to be fully cycled at this point.

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM






Samuel Warren March 21st 05 12:29 AM

Quote:You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly
set up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks to 2
months.

That sounds about right, I forgot all about that. It has been over a year
since I had a "new" tank.
THANKS


This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM

"Justin Boucher" wrote in message
...
You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly set

up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks to 2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the end

of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry

about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have

surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive is

not
a source).

Another option would be red algae, I usually get this dark maroon algae at
the water return spouts. Again, I'm not too concerned about it there so
long as it doesn't impede the water flow and grow out of control.

The post about the UV can be a good suggestion. I have one on my tank and
they can severely help control waterborne algae and parasites (like ick).

Justin
A sterile tank is a deadly tank.

"Samuel Warren" wrote in message
...
I have 4 tanks, in particular a 10 gallon planted tank with 2 very small
African mixed cichlids, and 6 black neon tetras. I have been scrubbing

the
glass about once a week to remove a brown rust looking growth. The pump
inlet tube also gets coated with this brown residue, as well as the

Aquarium
safe polished stones and pebbles. The substrate is Eco-complete for

planted
aquariums. Some of the larger leaves of some of the plants are also

getting
a brown deposit. What can I do to get rid of this, without tearing down

the
whole tank? The tank has been in operation for about a full month and
appears to be fully cycled at this point.

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM








Elaine T March 21st 05 01:55 AM

Justin Boucher wrote:
You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly set up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks to 2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the end of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive is not
a source).

Are you sure the silicone adhesive isn't a source of silica in newly
manufactured tanks? I've heard both ways. Either way, I've had the
same experience - diatoms bloom and then die off any any newly setup
tank. They're usually easy to rub off of the glass, decorations and
plants like anubias and the Otocinclus will take care of the rest.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__


anemone March 21st 05 03:32 AM

With newly made tanks I heard a way to "season" them. Fill the tank up and
make a brine solution (disolve salt into water until no more will dissolve)
and let it sit over night. I don't know how it works, but it was reccomended
by my tank maufacturer....
"Elaine T" wrote in message
. com...
Justin Boucher wrote:
You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly set
up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks to
2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the end
of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry
about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have
surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive is
not
a source).

Are you sure the silicone adhesive isn't a source of silica in newly
manufactured tanks? I've heard both ways. Either way, I've had the same
experience - diatoms bloom and then die off any any newly setup tank.
They're usually easy to rub off of the glass, decorations and plants like
anubias and the Otocinclus will take care of the rest.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__




Justin Boucher March 21st 05 05:45 AM

I've never heard of silicone being a source of silica in the tank. As for
new tanks, I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that you would still get a
diatom bloom from a silicon adhesive used tank freshly set up.

Justin

"Elaine T" wrote in message
. com...
Justin Boucher wrote:
You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly set

up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks to

2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the

end of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry

about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have

surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive is

not
a source).

Are you sure the silicone adhesive isn't a source of silica in newly
manufactured tanks? I've heard both ways. Either way, I've had the
same experience - diatoms bloom and then die off any any newly setup
tank. They're usually easy to rub off of the glass, decorations and
plants like anubias and the Otocinclus will take care of the rest.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__




Justin Boucher March 22nd 05 03:14 AM

I'm sure it will.

The same thing happened to my acrylic tank. Makes you wonder where the
silica actually comes from.

"John " wrote in message
...
My new Acrylic Tank has NO Silicone or Silicate anywhere in it and I have
the Brown Diatom like the plague. I am hoping it dies off in short time.

JOhn

"Justin Boucher" wrote in message
...
I've never heard of silicone being a source of silica in the tank. As

for
new tanks, I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that you would still get

a
diatom bloom from a silicon adhesive used tank freshly set up.

Justin

"Elaine T" wrote in message
. com...
Justin Boucher wrote:
You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly
set

up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and
once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks
to

2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the

end of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood

and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry

about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have

surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive

is
not
a source).

Are you sure the silicone adhesive isn't a source of silica in newly
manufactured tanks? I've heard both ways. Either way, I've had the
same experience - diatoms bloom and then die off any any newly setup
tank. They're usually easy to rub off of the glass, decorations and
plants like anubias and the Otocinclus will take care of the rest.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__








John > March 22nd 05 03:51 AM

My new Acrylic Tank has NO Silicone or Silicate anywhere in it and I have
the Brown Diatom like the plague. I am hoping it dies off in short time.

JOhn

"Justin Boucher" wrote in message
...
I've never heard of silicone being a source of silica in the tank. As for
new tanks, I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that you would still get a
diatom bloom from a silicon adhesive used tank freshly set up.

Justin

"Elaine T" wrote in message
. com...
Justin Boucher wrote:
You may very well have diatoms. This is perfectly normal in a newly
set

up
tank. They typically feed off silica as their main food source and
once
that is depleted, they will die down. This usually takes a few weeks
to

2
months. My 240gal just finished it's diatom cycle and we're near the

end of
the die off. The rocks have their natural color back, the bog wood and
plants are all looking "normal" again. It's really not much to worry

about
unless it lasts for several months. Then it usually means you have

surplus
silica somewhere getting in the water (and no, the silicone adhesive is

not
a source).

Are you sure the silicone adhesive isn't a source of silica in newly
manufactured tanks? I've heard both ways. Either way, I've had the
same experience - diatoms bloom and then die off any any newly setup
tank. They're usually easy to rub off of the glass, decorations and
plants like anubias and the Otocinclus will take care of the rest.

--
__ Elaine T __
__' http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__







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