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Iain, Do you need to rent/buy the bottle from Calor? If so, how much does it cost? Kind of neither - no deposit - you just go in & ask for a 3kg bottle of CO2 & pay 'em the £15 & off you go. When its empty you take the old one back & get another for another £15. There is no paperwork either so theoretically you could stockpile a heap of empty bottles by not taking the empty ones back I suppose - but why would you??? Which is why there is no paperwork & no deposit I guess! I. |
Iain Miller wrote: Iain, Do you need to rent/buy the bottle from Calor? If so, how much does it cost? Kind of neither - no deposit - you just go in & ask for a 3kg bottle of CO2 & pay 'em the £15 & off you go. When its empty you take the old one back & get another for another £15. There is no paperwork either so theoretically you could stockpile a heap of empty bottles by not taking the empty ones back I suppose - but why would you??? Which is why there is no paperwork & no deposit I guess! I found a Calor Gas outlet down the road from me. But they only do 6.5kg bottles for about £15. What the hell, the bottle will be partially hidden behind a tall plant anyway and it will last me well over 12 months. Could even get a narrow and tall cupboard built to disguise it. Nikki |
Nikki Casali Spaketh Thusly:
I found a Calor Gas outlet down the road from me. But they only do 6.5kg bottles for about £15. What the hell, the bottle will be partially hidden behind a tall plant anyway and it will last me well over 12 months. Could even get a narrow and tall cupboard built to disguise it. You don't even have to place it close to the tank. Tubing is easy to hide. I'm thinking of moving my entire setup - everything except tank and lights - to some high shelves in the room below. I can run pipes and tubing (only need a meter or so) inside an inside wall behind the tank. -- Bill H. [my "reply to" address is real] www.necka.net Molon Labe! |
"Bill" wrote in message ... Nikki Casali Spaketh Thusly: I found a Calor Gas outlet down the road from me. But they only do 6.5kg bottles for about £15. What the hell, the bottle will be partially hidden behind a tall plant anyway and it will last me well over 12 months. Could even get a narrow and tall cupboard built to disguise it. You don't even have to place it close to the tank. Tubing is easy to hide. I'm thinking of moving my entire setup - everything except tank and lights - to some high shelves in the room below. I can run pipes and tubing (only need a meter or so) inside an inside wall behind the tank. I dream about doing that. And the floor below is a closet area already. A |
"Angrie.Woman" Spaketh Thusly:
"Bill" wrote in message I'm thinking of moving my entire setup - everything except tank and lights - to some high shelves in the room below. I can run pipes and tubing (only need a meter or so) inside an inside wall behind the tank. I dream about doing that. And the floor below is a closet area already. Is there a sink close by? As much work as it's going to be to do the move and the piping, having the sink just a few steps away to be able to do water changes - instead of lugging several 5G buckets up the steps weekly - is actually going to save me work after a few months. I'm even planning on running an empty PVC pipe from behind the tank to right above the sink. I'll be able to vacuum and dump directly into the pipe - no filling buckets with dirty water! I can replace the water in the combination sump/wet dry filter/heater holder downstairs and let the pump move it up to the tank. I'll put my reactor inline with the pipe going back to the tank. Go for it, AW! I've been dreaming myself for a few years but my current stand is developing a lean so I am being forced to do some heavy work anyway. -- Bill H. [my "reply to" address is real] www.necka.net Molon Labe! |
"Bill" wrote in message ... "Angrie.Woman" Spaketh Thusly: "Bill" wrote in message I'm thinking of moving my entire setup - everything except tank and lights - to some high shelves in the room below. I can run pipes and tubing (only need a meter or so) inside an inside wall behind the tank. I dream about doing that. And the floor below is a closet area already. Is there a sink close by? As much work as it's going to be to do the move and the piping, having the sink just a few steps away to be able to do water changes - instead of lugging several 5G buckets up the steps weekly - is actually going to save me work after a few months. I'm even planning on running an empty PVC pipe from behind the tank to right above the sink. I'll be able to vacuum and dump directly into the pipe - no filling buckets with dirty water! I can replace the water in the combination sump/wet dry filter/heater holder downstairs and let the pump move it up to the tank. I'll put my reactor inline with the pipe going back to the tank. Go for it, AW! I've been dreaming myself for a few years but my current stand is developing a lean so I am being forced to do some heavy work anyway. Hadn't thought about the sink, but there is a hose bib on the floor below. Wouldn't be too big of a deal to "t" off that and put a dedicated spigot right under the tank. But there is a sink close too. adding a direct access to a drain would be the tricky part. I would need to study aquarium design though, because there wouldn't be a back side. THe tank would be open on both sides. I'm liking the way this is shaping up. :) Angie |
"Angrie.Woman" Spaketh Thusly:
Hadn't thought about the sink, but there is a hose bib on the floor below. Wouldn't be too big of a deal to "t" off that and put a dedicated spigot right under the tank. But there is a sink close too. adding a direct access to a drain would be the tricky part. I already figured that out... get some PVC close to the sink and somewhere above it; put a barbed fitting on the end. Then use some tubing to drop right into the sink, and remove it when you're not using it. If it's a finished room, hiding the barb is a tricky part. Perhaps a dummy air conditiong outlet (small round one) held up with a magnet - pull it off and go. I would need to study aquarium design though, because there wouldn't be a back side. THe tank would be open on both sides. Tank positioned inbetween 2 rooms? Way cool. I'm jealous. If any one side is against a wall, put your sihon and return hose there, there's nothing else to show if your filtration, etc. is downstairs. Hide the siphon box under the hood. If you don't have any side against a wall or a large piece of furniture - like in the middle of a big room - I'd guess drilling the tank would be the neatest way. I've never had a drilled tank, but lots of people do so it must be OK -- it just scares me. But it eliminates the unsightly and expensive siphon (overflow) box. I'm liking the way this is shaping up. :) I know what you mean! I've been playing with this in my head for years, since I first looked at Dave's (dclubine) site back when he was building his automated water change system. http://members.shaw.ca/dclubine/master.htm Inspiring. Poke around there and you'll get plenty of ideas. -- Bill H. [my "reply to" address is real] www.necka.net Molon Labe! |
"Bill" wrote in message ... "Angrie.Woman" Spaketh Thusly: Hadn't thought about the sink, but there is a hose bib on the floor below. Wouldn't be too big of a deal to "t" off that and put a dedicated spigot right under the tank. But there is a sink close too. adding a direct access to a drain would be the tricky part. I already figured that out... get some PVC close to the sink and somewhere above it; put a barbed fitting on the end. Then use some tubing to drop right into the sink, and remove it when you're not using it. If it's a finished room, hiding the barb is a tricky part. Perhaps a dummy air conditiong outlet (small round one) held up with a magnet - pull it off and go. I would need to study aquarium design though, because there wouldn't be a back side. THe tank would be open on both sides. Tank positioned inbetween 2 rooms? Way cool. I'm jealous. We're in a tri-level. When you walk in our front door, you have to either go up or down. If you go up, then turn right walk a few steps, turn right again, you're in the living room area, facing an outside wall. On your right, there is a rail, keeping people from falling off the floor into the stairwell from whence they just emerged. That's where I'd like to put it. Do away with the rail and put a really big tank there. I would have the ability to hide pipes and things with cabinetry on either end, I think. If any one side is against a wall, put your sihon and return hose there, there's nothing else to show if your filtration, etc. is downstairs. Hide the siphon box under the hood. If you don't have any side against a wall or a large piece of furniture - like in the middle of a big room - I'd guess drilling the tank would be the neatest way. I've never had a drilled tank, but lots of people do so it must be OK -- it just scares me Yes, me too! .. But it eliminates the unsightly and expensive siphon (overflow) box. I'm liking the way this is shaping up. :) I know what you mean! I've been playing with this in my head for years, since I first looked at Dave's (dclubine) site back when he was building his automated water change system. http://members.shaw.ca/dclubine/master.htm Inspiring. Poke around there and you'll get plenty of ideas. Oh - that looks like fun! Thanks! -- Bill H. [my "reply to" address is real] www.necka.net Molon Labe! |
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