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Daniel Morrow June 3rd 05 05:18 AM


"Papa Red" wrote in message
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Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I would think it would be fine if you use a water conditioner with heavy
metal neutralizer (example - aquasafe) on/in the water left after draining.
They used to make air valves out of brass so I think brass should be fine
even without conditioner. I don't know for sure about refilling with the
garden hose yet though. Good luck and HTH, later!



Papa Red June 3rd 05 05:44 AM

A question about draining a tank,...
 
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


MarAzul June 3rd 05 09:25 AM

"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.


I personally would never use a hose, but I know of people who do. A friend
on a fish forum posted this..

"I read in one of my fish magazines that you should never fill your tanks up
with a water hose. They have been chemically treated with a product to make
them last longer. It will kill your fish within hours. The newer the hose
the greater the danger."
http://www.totalfishkeeping.com/inde...showtopic=4288

Just something to think about.

--
Mar
---------
Vet Tech student



Dick June 3rd 05 10:51 AM

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:44:22 -0400, (Papa Red) wrote:

Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.



I first filled my 75 gallon tank with a garden hose two and a half
years ago. I had no fish loss. Since then I use a Gravel Vac.

dick

Billy June 3rd 05 12:25 PM




"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain
them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a
while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being
toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the
hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose,
but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank
y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.



I have done this with no ill effects, but it was years ago, and I no
longer feel it is worth the risk. Just go to the Home Improvement
store, and spend 10 bucks on a length of vinyl tubing. It's pennies a
foot, cheap peace of mind.

billy



Dick June 4th 05 12:11 PM

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 04:25:27 -0700, "Billy"
wrote:




"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain
them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a
while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being
toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the
hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose,
but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank
y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.



I have done this with no ill effects, but it was years ago, and I no
longer feel it is worth the risk. Just go to the Home Improvement
store, and spend 10 bucks on a length of vinyl tubing. It's pennies a
foot, cheap peace of mind.

billy


I have a motorhome. I fill the water tanks from an outside faucet.
There are ready made hose made and used by motorhome owners just for
the purpose of transfering water to the motorhome water tanks. Check
with your local hardware store. Some have motorhome supplies.

dick

bettasngoldfish June 4th 05 01:42 PM





"I read in one of my fish magazines that you should never fill your tanks up
with a water hose. They have been chemically treated with a product to make
them last longer. It will kill your fish within hours. The newer the hose
the greater the danger."
http://www.totalfishkeeping.com/inde...showtopic=4288

Just something to think about.

--
Mar


Yes, I read that same article. I filled a tank one time with a hose
because I did not know any better (did not lose any fish, heck those
african cichlids are tough buggers) but I would not ever do that now.
I have a python to drain and refill my tanks. It is especially useful
for larger tanks or for people like me with several tanks. Saves the
back big time : )


NEIL SUESZ June 4th 05 05:59 PM


"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.

At our old home I would just open the window behind the tank and drain the
water into my flower bed. Then fill up with 1gal. water jugs used for "fish
only." It was not to hard on me but since we moved to the new house I can't
do it that way any more. I bought a python from Wal-Mart and water changes
are a breeze.

Vicki in Virginia



bassett June 5th 05 03:07 AM

Ask yourself, what condition are the water pipes in, that deliver your water
and how long have they been in use. ????
bassett


"NEIL SUESZ" wrote in message
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"Papa Red" wrote in message
...
Can I just stick one end of a garden hose into a tank and drain them
that way [I have 7 tanks]. I'm asking this question because a while
back I seem to remember someone saying something about metal being toxic
to fish, and there is metal [copper/brass?] at either end of the hose.
In most cases I will already have most of the fish stored in
rubber/plastic buckets that I've purchased just for that purpose, but I
figured that it would be better to first ask you folks. I thank y'all
for any help that you can give on this matter.~Dean.

At our old home I would just open the window behind the tank and drain the
water into my flower bed. Then fill up with 1gal. water jugs used for
"fish
only." It was not to hard on me but since we moved to the new house I
can't
do it that way any more. I bought a python from Wal-Mart and water
changes
are a breeze.

Vicki in Virginia





Papa Red June 5th 05 09:05 AM

Well it seems that using the garden hose is out, because there is
nothing to attach it to in order to properly fill it up. And when I try
to fill it with water from the bathtub faucet, the hose has so many
dang-blasted kinks in it, that when I try and straighten out one kink,
another is created. So it's back to the bucket brigade, which is not
good, because one of the reasons that I am Social Security Disability,
is because I have Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, which
basically means that I don't breath so good. So using buckets to attend
to my seven tanks [approx.115 gallons total] isn't an easy task.
How much are those plastic gizmos that y'all have spoke of to drain
aquariums? And is there a company that makes and sells them, that I
could deal with directly, to not only get the lowest price, but then
maybe I could get my brother to buy one with his credit card, and he
would let me pay him in two payments. Thanks.~Dean.



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