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Wilmdale wrote:
What is legal is not always right.

What you want is not always legal or moral.

One of the weakest arguments for the
legitimacy of abortion is that it is legal.

But that argument is rarely used (if ever), and so it looks like
you're battling against a convenient strawman.

Civil law does not determine
morality.

Neither do you.

Rather, the law should reflect a morality that exists
independently of the law.

Whose morality is that?

"In the last century, slave owners argued that the slaves were theirs
and they had the right to do with them as they wished. [Slave owners]

Much as abortion opponents argue that a fetus should have the right to
do as it wishes with the woman's body.

[...]
With advances in technology and in understanding of human fetal
development, premature babies' chances of survival are improving.

They are not. There has been almost no change in the past couple of
decades.

The
RCOG stated in Preterm Labour and its Consequences (1985) that: "In 1984,

It's now 20 years later.

the womb has become the
most dangerous place in America.

That's just a stupid lie.

--
Ray Fischer

In article FTZA43SM38517.8328587963@anonymous, Anonymous-
er says...
Can anyone seriously believe that abortion was
immoral on January 21, 1973, and moral on January 23, 1973? If abortion
killed children before the law changed, it continues to kill children


Abortion didn't kill children before that date, and nor has abortion
killed children since that date.

(Caveat: except on the rare occasions a pregnant child died through
abortion, an event even more rare than a pregnant child dying through
giving birth).

Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article FTZA43SM38517.8328587963@anonymous, Anonymous-
er says...
Can anyone seriously believe that abortion was
immoral on January 21, 1973, and moral on January 23, 1973? If
abortion killed children before the law changed, it continues to
kill children


Abortion didn't kill children before that date, and nor has abortion
killed children since that date.

(Caveat: except on the rare occasions a pregnant child died through
abortion, an event even more rare than a pregnant child dying through
giving birth).

Pregnant children certainly died from back alley abortions, before Roe v.
Wade.

In article wFfse.7399$fa3.77@trndny01, says...
Pat Winstanley wrote:
In article FTZA43SM38517.8328587963@anonymous, Anonymous-
er says...
Can anyone seriously believe that abortion was
immoral on January 21, 1973, and moral on January 23, 1973? If
abortion killed children before the law changed, it continues to
kill children


Abortion didn't kill children before that date, and nor has abortion
killed children since that date.

(Caveat: except on the rare occasions a pregnant child died through
abortion, an event even more rare than a pregnant child dying through
giving birth).

Pregnant children certainly died from back alley abortions, before Roe v.
Wade.



Hence the caveat. Some pregnant children have died as a result of their
pregnancy being aborted (both before and after RvW came in). Ditto
pregnant children dying from giving birth.

The point is that those are the *only* children (pregnant minors)who
have died from an abortion taking place. As far as I'm aware no non-
pregnant child has ever died as a result of an abortion.