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Phil Hansen June 18th 05 03:20 PM

Companions for tinfoils
 
In a previous post I mentioned moving all my small fish to another
tank as the tinfoil's had destroyed all the plants (even the Java
fern) and a few fish as well. (my fault - uninformed buy - didn't ask
enough questions - anyway too late now)
The new setup is working fine.
As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like them
G) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.
Thoughts a
1 x Red tailed shark (1 only as aggressive with own)
Algae eater - shops here can't say whether they are Siamese or
Chinese.
Anything else?


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Skil-Phil

Phil Hansen June 19th 05 06:26 AM

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:55:09 -0400, "NetMax"
wrote:

"Phil Hansen" wrote in message
.. .
As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like them
G) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.


Tinfoils aren't too hard to cohabitate fish with, if you have the water
volume. Either match them (ie: Congo tetras, Bala Sharks...), or
contrast them (ie: Tiger Barbs, medium-large sized cichlids...), or keep
entirely out of their space (ie: Plecos, Catfish...). The best choices
will vary according to the size of the Tinfoils (I've seen them kept with
Oscars), and the size of your...... pond ;~).


Reading Baensch he says Bala sharks and tiger barbs need plants.
If it is, I suppose more plastic will have to do as nothing live will
survive.
This worries me about a pleco as any wafer or lettuce etc will be
consumed before he could get to it.
What cichlids were you thinking of?
Thanks for the link checked the differences in the algae eaters. Will
be better informed on the next trip to the city.



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Skil-Phil

NetMax June 19th 05 03:12 PM

"Phil Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:55:09 -0400, "NetMax"
wrote:

"Phil Hansen" wrote in message
. ..
As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like
them
G) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.


Tinfoils aren't too hard to cohabitate fish with, if you have the water
volume. Either match them (ie: Congo tetras, Bala Sharks...), or
contrast them (ie: Tiger Barbs, medium-large sized cichlids...), or
keep
entirely out of their space (ie: Plecos, Catfish...). The best
choices
will vary according to the size of the Tinfoils (I've seen them kept
with
Oscars), and the size of your...... pond ;~).


Reading Baensch he says Bala sharks and tiger barbs need plants.
If it is, I suppose more plastic will have to do as nothing live will
survive.
This worries me about a pleco as any wafer or lettuce etc will be
consumed before he could get to it.
What cichlids were you thinking of?
Thanks for the link checked the differences in the algae eaters. Will
be better informed on the next trip to the city.
---------
Skil-Phil


I prefer silk plants, though sometimes Tinfoils will nibble out of habit.
Regarding cichlids, Firemouths, Oscars, Rainbows, Texans, Geos etc. Only
one, introduced at a young age. Regarding the pleco, with some rock
ground cover, try to direct a wafer back there after the Tinfoils are
swimming around with a wafer in their mouths ;~). Ultimately it might
not be a good mix if you can't feed the pleco, but there are usually ways
to do it.
--
www.NetMax.tk



Derek Benson June 19th 05 03:13 PM

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:20:48 +0200, Phil Hansen
wrote:

In a previous post I mentioned moving all my small fish to another
tank as the tinfoil's had destroyed all the plants (even the Java
fern) and a few fish as well. (my fault - uninformed buy - didn't ask
enough questions - anyway too late now)
The new setup is working fine.
As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like them
G) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.
Thoughts a
1 x Red tailed shark (1 only as aggressive with own)
Algae eater - shops here can't say whether they are Siamese or
Chinese.
Anything else?

Skil-Phil


The best algae eater I've ever seen is the Black Shark, Morulius
chrysophekadion. As a lone algae eater in a large tank it can't be
beaten. It won't eat blue-green hair algae, but normal green algae you
get from sunlight will disappear. They do get quite large, and are
therefore a good tankmate for Tinfoils. If you want some outrageously
cool fights, put a Red-tailed Black Shark together with a Black, but
the Black Shark should be a bit larger when you purchase them.

-Derek

Phil Hansen June 19th 05 06:36 PM

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:12:03 -0400, "NetMax"
wrote:

lots of snipping

I prefer silk plants, though sometimes Tinfoils will nibble out of habit.
Regarding cichlids, Firemouths, Oscars, Rainbows, Texans, Geos etc. Only
one, introduced at a young age. Regarding the pleco, with some rock
ground cover, try to direct a wafer back there after the Tinfoils are
swimming around with a wafer in their mouths ;~). Ultimately it might
not be a good mix if you can't feed the pleco, but there are usually ways
to do it.


Thanks for the advice

---------
Skil-Phil

Phil Hansen June 19th 05 06:36 PM

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:13:07 +0200, Derek Benson
wrote:

The best algae eater I've ever seen is the Black Shark, Morulius
chrysophekadion. As a lone algae eater in a large tank it can't be
beaten. It won't eat blue-green hair algae, but normal green algae you
get from sunlight will disappear. They do get quite large, and are
therefore a good tankmate for Tinfoils. If you want some outrageously
cool fights, put a Red-tailed Black Shark together with a Black, but
the Black Shark should be a bit larger when you purchase them.


Thanks.
Never noticed a black shark in the local shops. Will look next time.


---------
Skil-Phil


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