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NetMax June 30th 05 08:21 AM

"Denise" wrote in message
...
I have 2 golden loach in my gourami tank that insist on latching on to
my goldies so I'm going to have move them. Don't really want to put them
into my community tank as there are a couple of goldies there too. I
have a rainbow tank but will they do the same thing with my large
Australian rainbows?
I also have a Malawi cichlid tank. The ph and hardiness is of course
different but also will the cichlids attack the loach - much as I'm fed
up with the bloody things, I don't want to be cruel to them! The other
option is a tank with geophagus jupari and bush fish (Ctenopoma
oxyrhynchus I think) in. The bush fish, despite opinions to the
contrary are very placid so are they going to start latching on to them
too?



Could you please identify what a 'golden loach' is. 'Common' names are
sometimes isolated to a single store!

If your loach are botia, then my experience has been that they are ok
with the hard water (mine are in 8.4pH 16dgH), though I would not
recommend this as ideal for their best growth conditions. As botia don't
'hang' on to fish, I suspect that you might have one of the algae eaters
which are sometimes called river loaches (very flat, sometimes called a
butterfly loach). I'm going to be guilty of the same thing as you and
not give you any scientific names, but then this is your post ;~). Of
these particular loaches, there are 3 types which commonly make there way
into the retail market and if memory serves, only one is herbivorous and
the other 2 are omnivorous. Adding some variety to their diet might
eliminate their habit of feeding off of the gourami's slime coat. I'd
suggest zucchini and then frozen brine shrimp or bloodworms. Your
loaches might just be very hungry. hth
--
www.NetMax.tk



Denise July 1st 05 11:22 AM

loach in cichlid tank
 
I have 2 golden loach in my gourami tank that insist on latching on to my
goldies so I'm going to have move them. Don't really want to put them into
my community tank as there are a couple of goldies there too. I have a
rainbow tank but will they do the same thing with my large Australian
rainbows?
I also have a Malawi cichlid tank. The ph and hardiness is of course
different but also will the cichlids attack the loach - much as I'm fed up
with the bloody things, I don't want to be cruel to them! The other option
is a tank with geophagus jupari and bush fish (Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus I
think) in. The bush fish, despite opinions to the contrary are very placid
so are they going to start latching on to them too?



Denise July 1st 05 05:39 PM

I have 2 golden loach in my gourami tank that insist on latching on to my
goldies so I'm going to have move them. Don't really want to put them into
my community tank as there are a couple of goldies there too. I have a
rainbow tank but will they do the same thing with my large Australian
rainbows?
I also have a Malawi cichlid tank. The ph and hardiness is of course
different but also will the cichlids attack the loach - much as I'm fed
up with the bloody things, I don't want to be cruel to them! The other
option is a tank with geophagus jupari and bush fish (Ctenopoma
oxyrhynchus I think) in. The bush fish, despite opinions to the contrary
are very placid so are they going to start latching on to them too?



Could you please identify what a 'golden loach' is. 'Common' names are
sometimes isolated to a single store!

If your loach are botia, then my experience has been that they are ok with
the hard water (mine are in 8.4pH 16dgH), though I would not recommend
this as ideal for their best growth conditions. As botia don't 'hang' on
to fish, I suspect that you might have one of the algae eaters which are
sometimes called river loaches (very flat, sometimes called a butterfly
loach). I'm going to be guilty of the same thing as you and not give you
any scientific names, but then this is your post ;~). Of these particular
loaches, there are 3 types which commonly make there way into the retail
market and if memory serves, only one is herbivorous and the other 2 are
omnivorous. Adding some variety to their diet might eliminate their habit
of feeding off of the gourami's slime coat. I'd suggest zucchini and then
frozen brine shrimp or bloodworms. Your loaches might just be very
hungry. hth
--
www.NetMax.tk

Hi - the one thing they're not is hungry! They get frozen or live food every
afternoon (and get more than the gouramis do) and different wafers & fish
food daily. The gourami tank is also shared by 5 bumblebee gobies who will
only eat live food.
Must admit not tried zucchini (that's courgette in the UK, yes? I have some
in at the moment so will try).
These are the fish
http://www.sunrise1.plus.com/golden.htm

I'd be grateful to know the Latin name and I'd still rather have them in a
different tank.
Many thanks for the help




Sue July 1st 05 06:24 PM

These are the little blighters!
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/Fishindx/algeater.htm
Usually known as sucking loaches in the UK and Chinese algae eaters in the
US!

They get aggressive as they grow and prefer to feed on the slimecoat of
other fish.

I often see them in Malawi tanks - they are cheap and tough and more often
than not it is the only place people can put them. Horrible fish IMO.
If you visit the temperate house at Kew Gardens there is an indoor heated
pond that has loads of them - up to about ten inches long.

HTH
Sue



NetMax July 1st 05 10:41 PM

"Sue" wrote in message
...
These are the little blighters!
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/Fishindx/algeater.htm
Usually known as sucking loaches in the UK and Chinese algae eaters in
the US!

They get aggressive as they grow and prefer to feed on the slimecoat of
other fish.

I often see them in Malawi tanks - they are cheap and tough and more
often than not it is the only place people can put them. Horrible fish
IMO.
If you visit the temperate house at Kew Gardens there is an indoor
heated pond that has loads of them - up to about ten inches long.

HTH
Sue



Hmm, I wasn't even close.. a golden CAE. Stick em in with the Malawians.
They are much more compatible with each other.
--
www.NetMax.tk



§tudz July 12th 05 12:19 PM

those would be algae eaters.

not botia

"Denise" wrote in message
...
I have 2 golden loach in my gourami tank that insist on latching on to my
goldies so I'm going to have move them. Don't really want to put them
into my community tank as there are a couple of goldies there too. I have
a rainbow tank but will they do the same thing with my large Australian
rainbows?
I also have a Malawi cichlid tank. The ph and hardiness is of course
different but also will the cichlids attack the loach - much as I'm fed
up with the bloody things, I don't want to be cruel to them! The other
option is a tank with geophagus jupari and bush fish (Ctenopoma
oxyrhynchus I think) in. The bush fish, despite opinions to the contrary
are very placid so are they going to start latching on to them too?



Could you please identify what a 'golden loach' is. 'Common' names are
sometimes isolated to a single store!

If your loach are botia, then my experience has been that they are ok
with the hard water (mine are in 8.4pH 16dgH), though I would not
recommend this as ideal for their best growth conditions. As botia don't
'hang' on to fish, I suspect that you might have one of the algae eaters
which are sometimes called river loaches (very flat, sometimes called a
butterfly loach). I'm going to be guilty of the same thing as you and
not give you any scientific names, but then this is your post ;~). Of
these particular loaches, there are 3 types which commonly make there way
into the retail market and if memory serves, only one is herbivorous and
the other 2 are omnivorous. Adding some variety to their diet might
eliminate their habit of feeding off of the gourami's slime coat. I'd
suggest zucchini and then frozen brine shrimp or bloodworms. Your
loaches might just be very hungry. hth
--
www.NetMax.tk

Hi - the one thing they're not is hungry! They get frozen or live food
every afternoon (and get more than the gouramis do) and different wafers &
fish food daily. The gourami tank is also shared by 5 bumblebee gobies who
will only eat live food.
Must admit not tried zucchini (that's courgette in the UK, yes? I have
some in at the moment so will try).
These are the fish
http://www.sunrise1.plus.com/golden.htm

I'd be grateful to know the Latin name and I'd still rather have them in a
different tank.
Many thanks for the help







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