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g September 10th 05 12:24 PM

18 months and NO tank maintenance!
 
Folks:

FWIW, just went through a separation and divorce and left the home w/o the
55g FOWLR DSB (life sucks sometimes-no not about the divorce either). Got
the tank back after 18 months and it was a major mess: NEVER a water change,
NEVER a cleaning NO maintenance... and the ex said feeding of the fish was
intermittent
took 3 hours to clean the tank at the new location!

YET...

virtually everything SURVIVED! 1-Hippo, 1-yellow tang, Brittle Star, Carpet
Anemone, 2 Chromis and most ;) of the turbos...

So (believe me I'm not trying to start a war here), and I do know that
hobbies range from dabbling to extreme serious investments of time and money
BUT...

Do we 'overmanage' or 'over analyze' aquariums?

G

(REMORA skimmer, Ehiem 2227, Fluval 404, coralife 15W UV, JBJ 220W PC and 2
power heads)



whodat September 10th 05 12:51 PM


well i think you lucked out
i croaked fish by doing too much of a water change and cleaning the
filter at the same time....
the fish guy said in so many words "you knucklehead, you got rid of the
good bacteria"
only change 1/2 the water, and dont do the filter at the same time
live and learn


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Pszemol September 10th 05 06:59 PM

"g" wrote in message . ..
So (believe me I'm not trying to start a war here), and I do know that
hobbies range from dabbling to extreme serious investments of time and
money BUT...

Do we 'overmanage' or 'over analyze' aquariums?


Fish only tanks are little different story from reef tanks.
Try doing the same with a real *reef tank* and you will get the answer.

Marc Levenson September 11th 05 07:13 AM

Well, if feeding wasn't overdone, it is indeed possible to keep the
livestock alive in those conditions.

I'm assuming your ex continued to top off the tank to avoid evaporation,
and cleaned the skimmer occasionally in that 18 month period.

I bet water parameters are interesting, and the bulbs need replacing, as
well as pumps needing so real cleaning.

Marc


g wrote:
Folks:

FWIW, just went through a separation and divorce and left the home w/o the
55g FOWLR DSB (life sucks sometimes-no not about the divorce either). Got
the tank back after 18 months and it was a major mess: NEVER a water change,
NEVER a cleaning NO maintenance... and the ex said feeding of the fish was
intermittent
took 3 hours to clean the tank at the new location!

YET...

virtually everything SURVIVED! 1-Hippo, 1-yellow tang, Brittle Star, Carpet
Anemone, 2 Chromis and most ;) of the turbos...

So (believe me I'm not trying to start a war here), and I do know that
hobbies range from dabbling to extreme serious investments of time and money
BUT...

Do we 'overmanage' or 'over analyze' aquariums?

G

(REMORA skimmer, Ehiem 2227, Fluval 404, coralife 15W UV, JBJ 220W PC and 2
power heads)



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g September 15th 05 11:43 PM

I should elaborate...

she did top off water (with tap)

Nothing else done

The tank glass was brown.(all sides, could barely see the inside)

Amazing what they (fish) can take...

But then again: mother nature surprises us in many ways :)

G

PS love your website!

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
t...
Well, if feeding wasn't overdone, it is indeed possible to keep the
livestock alive in those conditions.

I'm assuming your ex continued to top off the tank to avoid evaporation,
and cleaned the skimmer occasionally in that 18 month period.

I bet water parameters are interesting, and the bulbs need replacing, as
well as pumps needing so real cleaning.

Marc


g wrote:
Folks:

FWIW, just went through a separation and divorce and left the home w/o

the
55g FOWLR DSB (life sucks sometimes-no not about the divorce either).

Got
the tank back after 18 months and it was a major mess: NEVER a water

change,
NEVER a cleaning NO maintenance... and the ex said feeding of the fish

was
intermittent
took 3 hours to clean the tank at the new location!

YET...

virtually everything SURVIVED! 1-Hippo, 1-yellow tang, Brittle Star,

Carpet
Anemone, 2 Chromis and most ;) of the turbos...

So (believe me I'm not trying to start a war here), and I do know that
hobbies range from dabbling to extreme serious investments of time and

money
BUT...

Do we 'overmanage' or 'over analyze' aquariums?

G

(REMORA skimmer, Ehiem 2227, Fluval 404, coralife 15W UV, JBJ 220W PC

and 2
power heads)



--
Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com




Marc Levenson October 2nd 05 02:18 AM

Thank you G. :)

Marc


g wrote:


G

PS love your website!


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Jaime R-S October 5th 05 02:43 AM

Hello, this is my first time here...
What you experienced is not rare to me. I designed a filter that does just
what many think is luck.

Believe me, once you are able to neutralize nitrates and stabilize another
compound (kept secret) you barely have need for maintenance.

Yes, all that maintenance is unnecessary and was designed for you to buy
stuff that stabilizes one thing but breaks the balance of a second, a third,
and so on.

Is a vicious cycle I was able to break in my aquarium. I had been running
my aquarium with 7+ species with not even one water change. It works
perfect and as soon as I patent the system, I will be sharing it!

Imagine you were God and someone told you to change 25% of the ocean's water
every 4 days. lol

No, nature has its one solutions!

jrs
"g" wrote in message
. ..
Folks:

FWIW, just went through a separation and divorce and left the home w/o the
55g FOWLR DSB (life sucks sometimes-no not about the divorce either). Got
the tank back after 18 months and it was a major mess: NEVER a water
change,
NEVER a cleaning NO maintenance... and the ex said feeding of the fish
was
intermittent
took 3 hours to clean the tank at the new location!

YET...

virtually everything SURVIVED! 1-Hippo, 1-yellow tang, Brittle Star,
Carpet
Anemone, 2 Chromis and most ;) of the turbos...

So (believe me I'm not trying to start a war here), and I do know that
hobbies range from dabbling to extreme serious investments of time and
money
BUT...

Do we 'overmanage' or 'over analyze' aquariums?

G

(REMORA skimmer, Ehiem 2227, Fluval 404, coralife 15W UV, JBJ 220W PC and
2
power heads)





Pszemol October 5th 05 04:24 AM

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message ...
Hello, this is my first time here...
What you experienced is not rare to me. I designed a filter that does just
what many think is luck.

Believe me, once you are able to neutralize nitrates and stabilize another
compound (kept secret) you barely have need for maintenance.

Yes, all that maintenance is unnecessary and was designed for you to buy
stuff that stabilizes one thing but breaks the balance of a second, a third,
and so on.

Is a vicious cycle I was able to break in my aquarium. I had been running
my aquarium with 7+ species with not even one water change. It works
perfect and as soon as I patent the system, I will be sharing it!

Imagine you were God and someone told you to change 25% of the ocean's water
every 4 days. lol

No, nature has its one solutions!


You will not get a patent on something which Nature has been doing
for milions of years. Patent is only for new inventions ;-)

Also, you have only one fish tank with 7 species? For how long ?
What kind of "species" ? Please tell me more about your tank :-)

BTW - it is very hard to even compare fish concentration levels
in the ocean to these in an average fish tank... do you agree ?

George Patterson October 5th 05 04:42 AM

Jaime R-S wrote:

Imagine you were God and someone told you to change 25% of the ocean's water
every 4 days. lol


I'd say, "no problem." Lessee here, we can have the sun evaporate some water,
have the wind carry the vapor somewhere else, a little temperature change here
to get rain, let things percolate on down to the rivers. Those will wind up at
the sea, if those pesky little humans let 'em (wish I'd never invented them).

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

Jaime R-S October 6th 05 01:07 AM

Do you really think I am going to tell you?
lol
OK, sit down and relax! this coastal marine biologist has news for you...


jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
...
Hello, this is my first time here...
What you experienced is not rare to me. I designed a filter that does
just what many think is luck.

Believe me, once you are able to neutralize nitrates and stabilize
another compound (kept secret) you barely have need for maintenance.

Yes, all that maintenance is unnecessary and was designed for you to buy
stuff that stabilizes one thing but breaks the balance of a second, a
third, and so on.

Is a vicious cycle I was able to break in my aquarium. I had been
running my aquarium with 7+ species with not even one water change. It
works perfect and as soon as I patent the system, I will be sharing it!

Imagine you were God and someone told you to change 25% of the ocean's
water every 4 days. lol

No, nature has its one solutions!


You will not get a patent on something which Nature has been doing
for milions of years. Patent is only for new inventions ;-)

Also, you have only one fish tank with 7 species? For how long ?
What kind of "species" ? Please tell me more about your tank :-)

BTW - it is very hard to even compare fish concentration levels
in the ocean to these in an average fish tank... do you agree ?





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