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Glengoyne September 13th 05 11:09 PM

Painted fish
 
So I went to the LFS today to get some advice about what to put with my
CAE that will go with the Loaches and Rainbows when we get the big
tank. (I would appreciate your input on that subject as well). While I
was there, I noticed some 'Diamond barbs'? I think thats what they were
calling them. As I was looking at the tanks and talking to the lfs
guy, I remarked about some fish that were about 4 in long, and white
with a flourescent diamond pattern on them. He told me that they were
albino something-or-others and that they were painted! I was amazed
that someone would even think to do this.

That leads me to wonder:
1) Who does this? is it the LFS? they are the only game in town outside
the chains, and if they are painting fish, I would be inclined to not
return (see the guppies in betta bowls thread)

2) What other fish might be painted?


Charles September 13th 05 11:50 PM

On 13 Sep 2005 15:09:00 -0700, "Glengoyne"
wrote:

So I went to the LFS today to get some advice about what to put with my
CAE that will go with the Loaches and Rainbows when we get the big
tank. (I would appreciate your input on that subject as well). While I
was there, I noticed some 'Diamond barbs'? I think thats what they were
calling them. As I was looking at the tanks and talking to the lfs
guy, I remarked about some fish that were about 4 in long, and white
with a flourescent diamond pattern on them. He told me that they were
albino something-or-others and that they were painted! I was amazed
that someone would even think to do this.

That leads me to wonder:
1) Who does this? is it the LFS? they are the only game in town outside
the chains, and if they are painting fish, I would be inclined to not
return (see the guppies in betta bowls thread)

2) What other fish might be painted?



http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/a.../article3.html

http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/a.../article3.html

http://fins.actwin.com/articles/paintedglass.php

http://www.aquarama.com.sg/aquaramam...business2.html

http://www.petfish.net/painted_glassfish.htm



Alpha September 14th 05 04:01 AM


You must be a newbie. This has been going on for at least four decades.



Beano September 14th 05 07:34 AM

I must say I also only recently just heard of this phenomenon - I
haven't come across it where I live in Australia. I find it phenomenal
that people would do this - some people just don't know the process of
colouring the fish and buy them for their bright colours! From what I
hear they don't live very long.


Elaine T September 14th 05 09:58 PM

Charles wrote:
On 13 Sep 2005 15:09:00 -0700, "Glengoyne"
wrote:


So I went to the LFS today to get some advice about what to put with my
CAE that will go with the Loaches and Rainbows when we get the big
tank. (I would appreciate your input on that subject as well). While I
was there, I noticed some 'Diamond barbs'? I think thats what they were
calling them. As I was looking at the tanks and talking to the lfs
guy, I remarked about some fish that were about 4 in long, and white
with a flourescent diamond pattern on them. He told me that they were
albino something-or-others and that they were painted! I was amazed
that someone would even think to do this.

That leads me to wonder:
1) Who does this? is it the LFS? they are the only game in town outside
the chains, and if they are painting fish, I would be inclined to not
return (see the guppies in betta bowls thread)

2) What other fish might be painted?




http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/a.../article3.html

http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/a.../article3.html

http://fins.actwin.com/articles/paintedglass.php

http://www.aquarama.com.sg/aquaramam...business2.html

http://www.petfish.net/painted_glassfish.htm


Speaking of painted fish, sometimes fish stores get them in by mistake
so don't necessarily boycot a store that has some. I was talking to a
manager in one of our newer stores and asked if some unusual-looking
cories with a pinkish-red stripe from the anal fin to the caudal fin
were painted. He said they were, and came from the supplier that way.
The store didn't order them painted.

Even worse, they ordered cherry barbs, and got pink-dyed white skirt
tetras. He sadly said that the tetras were selling like crazy even when
he told people they were painted and wouldn't keep the color or even
stay healthy. I had the same experience with "neon glass fish" that had
clearly visible lymphocistis infections when I worked in a fish store.
I always tried my best to offer naturally colorful fish like neon or
glowlight tetras instead, and sometimes it worked.

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Glengoyne September 14th 05 10:40 PM

Well it makes me feel better knowing that this isn't something that the
store is doing. I can't really fault a business for stocking what will
sell, although it is still mind boggling.


m September 14th 05 10:51 PM

That's crazy... I never knew they painted cories.
I wonder what the economics are like surrounding painted fish... maybe
it's because I don't understand fully how they do it? All I've read
says that they inject the fish with some stuff... wouldn't that be
really time consuming? Dye probably isn't very expensive, and if the
fish sell like hotcakes to people that either don't mind or don't know
then I'm sure that's a trivial issue. But if it takes a lot of time
then I don't know why they would do it.

It seems counterproductive to me... I want fish that are soothing and
natural to watch. I don't want to look at my fish tank and get confused
and think that I'm on a vegas strip full of crazy neon lights.


Gill Passman September 14th 05 11:16 PM

Elaine T wrote:
Charles wrote:

On 13 Sep 2005 15:09:00 -0700, "Glengoyne"
wrote:


So I went to the LFS today to get some advice about what to put with my
CAE that will go with the Loaches and Rainbows when we get the big
tank. (I would appreciate your input on that subject as well). While I
was there, I noticed some 'Diamond barbs'? I think thats what they were
calling them. As I was looking at the tanks and talking to the lfs
guy, I remarked about some fish that were about 4 in long, and white
with a flourescent diamond pattern on them. He told me that they were
albino something-or-others and that they were painted! I was amazed
that someone would even think to do this.

That leads me to wonder:
1) Who does this? is it the LFS? they are the only game in town outside
the chains, and if they are painting fish, I would be inclined to not
return (see the guppies in betta bowls thread)

2) What other fish might be painted?





http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/a.../article3.html

http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/a.../article3.html

http://fins.actwin.com/articles/paintedglass.php

http://www.aquarama.com.sg/aquaramam...business2.html

http://www.petfish.net/painted_glassfish.htm


Speaking of painted fish, sometimes fish stores get them in by mistake
so don't necessarily boycot a store that has some. I was talking to a
manager in one of our newer stores and asked if some unusual-looking
cories with a pinkish-red stripe from the anal fin to the caudal fin
were painted. He said they were, and came from the supplier that way.
The store didn't order them painted.

Even worse, they ordered cherry barbs, and got pink-dyed white skirt
tetras. He sadly said that the tetras were selling like crazy even when
he told people they were painted and wouldn't keep the color or even
stay healthy. I had the same experience with "neon glass fish" that had
clearly visible lymphocistis infections when I worked in a fish store. I
always tried my best to offer naturally colorful fish like neon or
glowlight tetras instead, and sometimes it worked.

The LFS's I use actually advertise that they will neve sell painted or
dyed fish along with information on why not

Gill

Beano September 15th 05 03:46 AM

yeah, but if they are fish enthusiests, they would have more in mind
than just profit, like stocking a quality item is also important for a
business. In a way it's a bit gimmicky. And by stocking the fish,
they are condoning the act.

I know this isn't the same thing, but I recently went to one of those
jewellery chain stores. They were selling these things called "mystic
fire" topaz, which they described to me as a "coloured topaz" - they
look kind of black but have lovely holographic colours in them.
Anyway, after asking the girl whether the colour would eventually come
off she said no. I already knew the answer, as if you turned the ring
side on you could see where the PAINT on the stone ended at the sides -
of course it would have chipped off.

So anyway, I guess the point of the story is, if the fish store is
stocking a shoddy product for profit, then don't expect them to ever
have any good products. Like pets paradise in Australia - I cant tell
you how many fish I bought from them over the years, what a waste of
money.


Glengoyne September 15th 05 06:08 AM

I guess its a fine line, like I said before, other than the chain
stores, they are basically the only game in town. In all the trips to
that store, I dont think I have ever seen a dead fish in all the tanks.
That is in stark contrast to the local Wally-mart where some days they
have more floaters than swimmers. The staff at this store are very
knowledgable, and the only fish we have lost from them was the result
of a well meaning fish sitter. They tend to carry larger fish than the
chains as well. The CL's that we got 2 months ago from a chain, are
just now about the size of the loaches they carry at this store.

I'm torn I guess.



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