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Timcat October 9th 05 08:34 PM

Does anyone have experience with the following hardware?
 
For a 90 gallon tank, I am considering the following skimmers: Berlin Turbo
Classic, Turboflotor 1000 multi, Precision Marine Bullet 1 or 2, and the
ETSS Super Reef Devil. Are any of these inherently better in terms of "ease
of use", durability, etc...of is there a better choice I've overlooked?

For lighting, I am considering either the Coralife Lunar Aqualife Plus (48",
96W PC * 4), or the Orbit Power Compact (same specs). I'm not looking at MH.

I am considering the Aqua Twist UV, 25W with wiper.

I've noticed pump ratings are all over the board. I am looking at roughly a
900 gph rating (at for me, a 6' lift) right? This tank will have a sump.

I hope someone has some experiences with these brands/models to offer some
opinions.

Thanks,
Tim



Billy October 10th 05 03:01 AM


"Timcat" wrote in message
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I am considering the Aqua Twist UV, 25W with wiper.



I am not a fan of UV. I feel it's much like carbon; useful for some
things, but pointless to use all the time.

b



Timcat October 10th 05 03:31 PM

My internet is to have it plumbed in and turned off until it is needed for
one reason or another. From what I have read, it seems the general consensus
agrees with you. Do you feel it is also not needed for "emergencies"?

Tim

"Billy" wrote in message
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"Timcat" wrote in message
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I am considering the Aqua Twist UV, 25W with wiper.



I am not a fan of UV. I feel it's much like carbon; useful for some
things, but pointless to use all the time.

b




Wayne Sallee October 10th 05 04:05 PM

Yep, I don't care for UV filters either. Most reefers are
of this oppinion.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Billy wrote:
"Timcat" wrote in message
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I am considering the Aqua Twist UV, 25W with wiper.




I am not a fan of UV. I feel it's much like carbon; useful for some
things, but pointless to use all the time.

b



Wayne Sallee October 10th 05 04:07 PM

Timcat wrote:
Do you feel it is also not needed for "emergencies"?


I would not even use one for emergancies.

Wayne Sallee


Timcat October 10th 05 04:53 PM

What about ozone? I get the impression most reefers don't really care for
it, either.

Tim

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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Timcat wrote:
Do you feel it is also not needed for "emergencies"?


I would not even use one for emergancies.

Wayne Sallee




Wayne Sallee October 10th 05 05:05 PM

Most don't, some do.

It can react harmfully with (element, forget, too lazy to
look it up), and so the salt manufactures actualy leave
that element out.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Timcat wrote:
What about ozone? I get the impression most reefers don't really care for
it, either.

Tim

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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Timcat wrote:

Do you feel it is also not needed for "emergencies"?


I would not even use one for emergancies.

Wayne Sallee





Thomas Bartkus October 10th 05 09:04 PM

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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Most don't, some do.

It can react harmfully with (element, forget, too lazy to
look it up), and so the salt manufactures actualy leave
that element out.

Ozone is known to liberate free Iodine and Bromine from their respective
salts.
One test for the presence of ozone is to bubble the suspected ozone
containing
air through a potassium iodide solution to see if it displaces free iodine
from the salt.

I would think that charecteristic harmful for a reef tank.
Who leaves iodine and bromine out of their sea salt formulations?

Not one I'm using - I hope!
Thomas Bartkus



Wayne Sallee October 10th 05 09:33 PM

Yea it's Bromine. Salt Manufactures keep this element much
lower than sea water. But even without bromine, it will
still bleach other things like iodine, and clorine.

Carbon is used to remove the ozone, but I'm not sure what
happens to the bromine, iodine, clorine. I guess the
carbon removes them as well?

Wayne Sallee


Thomas Bartkus wrote:
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
link.net...

Most don't, some do.

It can react harmfully with (element, forget, too lazy to
look it up), and so the salt manufactures actualy leave
that element out.


Ozone is known to liberate free Iodine and Bromine from their respective
salts.
One test for the presence of ozone is to bubble the suspected ozone
containing
air through a potassium iodide solution to see if it displaces free iodine
from the salt.

I would think that charecteristic harmful for a reef tank.
Who leaves iodine and bromine out of their sea salt formulations?

Not one I'm using - I hope!
Thomas Bartkus



Thomas Bartkus October 10th 05 10:00 PM

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
link.net...
Yea it's Bromine. Salt Manufactures keep this element much
lower than sea water. But even without bromine, it will
still bleach other things like iodine, and clorine.

Carbon is used to remove the ozone, but I'm not sure what
happens to the bromine, iodine, clorine. I guess the
carbon removes them as well?


At the risk of sounding picky, I would suspect that rather than removing the
ozone itself, the carbon removes all the oxidized organic nasties the ozone
is creating. This is, I suppose, better than living with a water column full
of unoxidized organic waste.

As far as Iodine goes, I would expect an Ozone/activated carbon system to be
an Iodine free system. I'm not sure we want that!

Who still uses ozone?
Thomas Bartkus




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