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Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
Hello, it's me again with more questions! Thank you so much for your
help and advice so far -- this is the most open and friendly newsgroup I've ever participated in. =) This weekend I'm going to set up major CO2 injection for my new tank--55 gallons, planted. It was going to be partially planted but now I think the fake plants look horrible compared to the real thing. Some of the plants have brown leaves already, though, and since they have fertilizer and ~3 watts/gallon of full spectrum light, CO2's the only deficiency I can think of (per this newsgroup's advice). I think I can make a fairly aesthetic DIY kit, but I could buy two Jungle Fizz Factories (supposed to be good up to 40 gallons) instead. More aesthetic, more expensive. Does anyone have experience or opinions on this? Thank you! Jamie |
Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
On 26 Oct 2005 13:30:11 -0700, "Jamie Drilling"
wrote: Hello, it's me again with more questions! Thank you so much for your help and advice so far -- this is the most open and friendly newsgroup I've ever participated in. =) This weekend I'm going to set up major CO2 injection for my new tank--55 gallons, planted. It was going to be partially planted but now I think the fake plants look horrible compared to the real thing. Some of the plants have brown leaves already, though, and since they have fertilizer and ~3 watts/gallon of full spectrum light, CO2's the only deficiency I can think of (per this newsgroup's advice). I think I can make a fairly aesthetic DIY kit, but I could buy two Jungle Fizz Factories (supposed to be good up to 40 gallons) instead. More aesthetic, more expensive. Does anyone have experience or opinions on this? Thank you! Jamie Hi Jamie, Lighting is definetly adequate. Is fertilizer a general one or specifically for IRON? I've tried the DIY yeast and they can be a pain. Last from 1 week to maybe 3. My plants have turned a bit brown now and then. I add IRON.and keep up the liquid CO2 daily and presto! Almost all green plants. If they are getting enough iron(may have to get a test kit for this if you are going to invest in lots of plants) then I'd recommend the Excel CO2 (liquid). just my thoughts on the issue |
Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
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"Jamie Drilling" wrote in message oups.com... Hello, it's me again with more questions! Thank you so much for your help and advice so far -- this is the most open and friendly newsgroup I've ever participated in. =) This weekend I'm going to set up major CO2 injection for my new tank--55 gallons, planted. It was going to be partially planted but now I think the fake plants look horrible compared to the real thing. Some of the plants have brown leaves already, though, and since they have fertilizer and ~3 watts/gallon of full spectrum light, CO2's the only deficiency I can think of (per this newsgroup's advice). I think I can make a fairly aesthetic DIY kit, but I could buy two Jungle Fizz Factories (supposed to be good up to 40 gallons) instead. More aesthetic, more expensive. Does anyone have experience or opinions on this? Thank you! Jamie I have a jungle fizz factory myself but I actually never use it - for the same reasons justice referred to ambiguously in his later post. The reason is that I love over-aerating my bedroom tank, what can I say, I love bubbles! To a certain point if you aerate your tank (not necessary in a planted tank unless you are like me and love bubbles and must have them) most of the co2 injected escapes the tank's water and therefore co2 injection doesn't do anything, it just escapes/leaves the tank. Gas exchange in aquariums takes place on the surface of the water, if the surface is agitated via bubbles or other turbulence the gas in the tank's water tends to leave. My other two tanks don't have much surface agitation but I still don't inject co2 because those tanks are much bigger (55 each as compared to 15 for my bedroom) co2 injection is too costly with the cheap kits and real co2 injection is just plain too expensive. I have heard that liquid co2 (like seachem excel co2) works great, at least by some brands. I do wonder if massive aeration causes co2 to come back into the tank in a small but significant amount so a small amount is always still there. Now that I am providing more light (actually I moved the light source closer to the plant with the light facing sideways penetrating the side glass of the bedroom tank) my amazon sword plant has grown tremendously. In my other tank hornwort is taking over, it is a great beginner plant. You can always put extra amounts into the compost heap outside, or throw it out. Weird thing is it won't grow much in my bedroom tank - go figure. I still recommend you use the jungle fizz factory if you don't aerate your tank unless you want a different brand (I don't have experience with the jungle fizz factory because like I said - I have never used it), or you want to aerate your tank. In other words - if your tank's water stays calm then inject co2, but make sure you have plants that will use the co2 (i.e. if you have no plants it could be dangerous to the fish, and unnecessary) and I think it's a good idea to aerate at night even with co2 injection - the injected co2 will raise the ph at night and might cause respiratory problems at night, use an electrical timer (cheap) to turn on the air pump at night and turn it off during the day. You plants wouldn't use the co2 at night anyways - they grow at night and consume oxygen then. Good luck, I hope this helps, and later! |
Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
Daniel Morrow wrote:
snip co2 injection is just plain too expensive. I have heard that liquid co2 (like seachem excel co2) works great, at least by some brands. I do wonder if massive aeration causes co2 to come back into the tank in a small but significant amount so a small amount is always still there. Aeration ("massive aeration" is not necessary) or surface turbulence keeps the tank at atmospheric CO2. So yes, in a non-CO2 injected tank, the CO2 the plants use up is replaced. For this reason, it's usually halpful to have some surface turbulence or an airstone in a planted tank that doesn't have CO2 added. My plants do really well with Seachem Flourish Excel. It's much less hassle than DIY C02. -- Elaine T __ http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__ rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com |
Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
Besides the hassle, from the little I've done I know I don't like the
odor of DIY CO2. Guess what? After adding light and fertilizer to my tank, even without the injection of CO2 my algae crop has really taken off. :| I have 3 little Otos, from Petco because they were close, and we'll see what 3 Otos can do with 55 gallons of algae. ;) Jamie |
Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
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"Elaine T" wrote in message t... Aeration ("massive aeration" is not necessary) or surface turbulence keeps the tank at atmospheric CO2. So yes, in a non-CO2 injected tank, the CO2 the plants use up is replaced. For this reason, it's usually halpful to have some surface turbulence or an airstone in a planted tank that doesn't have CO2 added. My plants do really well with Seachem Flourish Excel. It's much less hassle than DIY C02. -- Elaine T __ http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__ rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com Cool! I will be getting some excel flourish with my next supplies shipment shortly. Unfortunately I actually have never tried it myself yet as I made a mistake in my last attempt as I ordered flourish iron, still a good product but not what plants need the most in my case most likely. So this time I will order the right product. Later! |
Opinions on CO2 injection - e.g. Jungle Fizz Factory or DIY?
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