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stoutman March 19th 04 10:03 PM

calcium suggestion
 
save yourself a bunch of money and buy your Kalk at the grocery store. Kalk
is Calcium Hydroxide. Sold as PICKLING LIME at the grocery store (at least
in the USA it is.)



"Matt" wrote in message
...
I need to reoder a calcium suppliment for my 55 reef. I currently drip

Kent
Kalkwasser to add calcium. Suggestions of other products and methods for
adding calcium. I like my Kent Kalk but willing to try something new.





Matt March 20th 04 12:01 AM

calcium suggestion
 
I need to reoder a calcium suppliment for my 55 reef. I currently drip Kent
Kalkwasser to add calcium. Suggestions of other products and methods for
adding calcium. I like my Kent Kalk but willing to try something new.



reefman MC March 20th 04 03:19 AM

calcium suggestion
 

C-balance two part ionic buffer by two little fishies.


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Dragon Slayer March 20th 04 06:07 AM

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if your just tired of dripping, check out the Kalk Slurry.

kc

"Matt" wrote in message
...
I need to reoder a calcium suppliment for my 55 reef. I currently drip

Kent
Kalkwasser to add calcium. Suggestions of other products and methods for
adding calcium. I like my Kent Kalk but willing to try something new.





Marc Levenson March 20th 04 12:29 PM

calcium suggestion
 
Kyron, I just ran completely out of B-Ionic and I have two 5 gallon buckets that
will be here in a few days.

Do you think I could get away with the Kalk slurry method on my 29g, or is that
simply too contained to pull it off? What if I diluted it in a pitcher of RO/DI
water, and poured it into the overflow box? For the 55g, I think I could pour
it in the skimmer compartment.

Marc


Dragon Slayer wrote:

if your just tired of dripping, check out the Kalk Slurry.

kc

"Matt" wrote in message
...
I need to reoder a calcium suppliment for my 55 reef. I currently drip

Kent
Kalkwasser to add calcium. Suggestions of other products and methods for
adding calcium. I like my Kent Kalk but willing to try something new.



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Matt March 20th 04 05:20 PM

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could you give me some more kalk slurry info?



"Dragon Slayer" wrote in message
...
if your just tired of dripping, check out the Kalk Slurry.

kc

"Matt" wrote in message
...
I need to reoder a calcium suppliment for my 55 reef. I currently drip

Kent
Kalkwasser to add calcium. Suggestions of other products and methods

for
adding calcium. I like my Kent Kalk but willing to try something new.







Dragon Slayer March 21st 04 06:29 AM

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Marc

I use it on my 10g tank with no problems at all.
as for where to dump it, in the tank is most always best due to the tank has
more turnover and volume then the sump. I wouldn't suggest the overflow at
all.

hth
kc

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
...
Kyron, I just ran completely out of B-Ionic and I have two 5 gallon

buckets that
will be here in a few days.

Do you think I could get away with the Kalk slurry method on my 29g, or is

that
simply too contained to pull it off? What if I diluted it in a pitcher of

RO/DI
water, and poured it into the overflow box? For the 55g, I think I could

pour
it in the skimmer compartment.

Marc


Dragon Slayer wrote:

if your just tired of dripping, check out the Kalk Slurry.

kc

"Matt" wrote in message
...
I need to reoder a calcium suppliment for my 55 reef. I currently

drip
Kent
Kalkwasser to add calcium. Suggestions of other products and methods

for
adding calcium. I like my Kent Kalk but willing to try something new.



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Dragon Slayer March 21st 04 06:40 AM

calcium suggestion
 

could you give me some more kalk slurry info?

to do the slurry the correct way you need to own (or at least borrow) a pH
monitor as a test kit will not be accurate enough.

first you have to find the daily demands of your system, this is done by
testing the Ca levels of the tank and then not adding anything to the tank
other then RO/DI top off water. after 3 days (the longer you wait the more
accurate the test) and retest Ca to see how much it dropped. divide that
drop by the # of days to get the daily demand.

now with the pH monitor on, you want to watch the pH as you add the slurry
to the tank. start with a small amount 1/4 tsp in a cup of RO/DI water
slurried around til it's mixed completely. then dump the slurry into a high
flow area of the tank (not the sump)

you don't go by the initial spike but the total rise in pH after the tank
gets a good mix (about an hour) at that time you don't want more then a 0.2
spike in pH. I've had as high as 1.9 initial spike and never had any
problems from corals or fish from it.

in my 180g (250g total system volume) to boost pH I can add a full
tablespoon in a quart of water and dump it in with no problems.

hth
kc





Marc Levenson March 21st 04 09:37 AM

calcium suggestion
 
Thanks for reposting that Kyron.

I have so many containers and bottles and jars of stuff, that for now I'm using
Seachem's Reef Builder and Seachem's Calcium buffer for the next few days, until
my B-Ionic shows up. But I do want to have the alternative of the Kalk slurry.

You don't see any corals suffering from the initial contact of this stuff? Even
though dissolved, it must be acidic to some degree, right? It would be hard to
pour it into any area of my tank and not have it make contact pretty quickly
with livestock.

Marc

Dragon Slayer wrote:


to do the slurry the correct way you need to own (or at least borrow) a pH
monitor as a test kit will not be accurate enough.

first you have to find the daily demands of your system, this is done by
testing the Ca levels of the tank and then not adding anything to the tank
other then RO/DI top off water. after 3 days (the longer you wait the more
accurate the test) and retest Ca to see how much it dropped. divide that
drop by the # of days to get the daily demand.

now with the pH monitor on, you want to watch the pH as you add the slurry
to the tank. start with a small amount 1/4 tsp in a cup of RO/DI water
slurried around til it's mixed completely. then dump the slurry into a high
flow area of the tank (not the sump)

you don't go by the initial spike but the total rise in pH after the tank
gets a good mix (about an hour) at that time you don't want more then a 0.2
spike in pH. I've had as high as 1.9 initial spike and never had any
problems from corals or fish from it.

in my 180g (250g total system volume) to boost pH I can add a full
tablespoon in a quart of water and dump it in with no problems.

hth
kc


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Kevin M March 21st 04 04:05 PM

calcium suggestion
 
"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
...
| Kyron, I just ran completely out of B-Ionic and I have two 5 gallon
buckets that
| will be here in a few days.
|
| Do you think I could get away with the Kalk slurry method on my 29g, or is
that
| simply too contained to pull it off? What if I diluted it in a pitcher of
RO/DI
| water, and poured it into the overflow box? For the 55g, I think I could
pour
| it in the skimmer compartment.


Marc,
One thing I've noticed about the slurry method is that...it will REALLY clog
your pumps if you dump it near their intakes. I dumped slurry for about a
month before noticing that all my pumps with their intakes in that chamber
had slowed drastically. One, an LG 5mdqx, had the impeller completely siezed
up with calcium deposits. Also, the slurry would cross my heater in the sump
as it was mixing. I ended up with a 1/16" thick calcium coating on it within
weeks.
Just something to watch out for. Other than that, the slurry method is a
very easy way to dose kalk.

Kev




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