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Pszemol June 22nd 04 07:02 AM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
I have read about decapsulating of brine shrimp eggs in
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...02/breeder.htm
They say: "These decapsulated cysts can be hatched into nauplii
immediately, or dehydrated in concentrated brine solution
then stored for later hatching. Lastly, the decapsulated
eggs can be used for direct feeding. Decapsulated Artemia
cysts can be stored for a few days in the refrigerator
without any noted decrease in hatching."

Do you have any experience with decapsulated cysts?
How long can I store them after decapsulation/dehydratation
to make sure I will have major amount of eggs hatch nicely?

Rod June 22nd 04 12:36 PM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
I have decapsulated my own, but never purchased any theat were decapsulated.. I
didnt find it was worth the efort to decapsulate. The cysts that I use will
hatch in less than 24hrs and one teaspoon of cysts yeilds at least a
tablespoonof naupalli. It seems like I get 100% hatch rate, but in reality its
probably only 90-95%.

Pszemol June 22nd 04 03:21 PM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
"Rod" wrote in message ...
I have decapsulated my own, but never purchased any theat were decapsulated.. I
didnt find it was worth the efort to decapsulate. The cysts that I use will
hatch in less than 24hrs and one teaspoon of cysts yeilds at least a
tablespoonof naupalli. It seems like I get 100% hatch rate, but in reality its
probably only 90-95%.


Have you decapsulated them just before haching?
Have you got any experience with the storage of decapsulated cysts?

p.s. have you got my last e-mail I sent yesterday?

Rod June 22nd 04 03:31 PM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
Have you decapsulated them just before haching?

yes


Have you got any experience with the storage of decapsulated cysts?


no



p.s. have you got my last e-mail I sent yesterday?


no, but I will at about 1 PM today

Pszemol June 22nd 04 03:48 PM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
"Rod" wrote in message ...
yes

[..]
no


Thanks :-)) It was convincing what you said about
not being worth decapsulating - I have no big problem
of separating shells after hatching but I was just
curious how is the thing with the storage...
If I could decapsulate a pound of cysts in one batch
and then use them all over a year than it would be
worth it, but from the description I take they will
not survive decapsulated for more than a couple of days.
So it is not worth it unless you have very delicate
animals to feed.

p.s. have you got my last e-mail I sent yesterday?


no, but I will at about 1 PM today


Cool.

Microbot June 22nd 04 06:04 PM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
I dont know how long Decapsulated Cysts last but I have been using already
Decapsulated Cysts in a bottle.
They are in a liquid and a few drops gives hundreds of Cysts.
They are sold over the counter here in Australia with Hatcheries and also in
bottles ready for use.
They are alot cleaner to use than normal Cysts as there are no shells
floating around the top of the water.
I get near perfect hatch rates and dont refridgerate the Decapsulated Cysts
or do anything special.... This last bottle has lated me for ages...

www.ntlabs.co.uk is what address is written on the bottle.
http://www.ntlabs.co.uk/ntlabsframe.htm

Cheers
Microbot

"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Rod" wrote in message

...
yes

[..]
no


Thanks :-)) It was convincing what you said about
not being worth decapsulating - I have no big problem
of separating shells after hatching but I was just
curious how is the thing with the storage...
If I could decapsulate a pound of cysts in one batch
and then use them all over a year than it would be
worth it, but from the description I take they will
not survive decapsulated for more than a couple of days.
So it is not worth it unless you have very delicate
animals to feed.

p.s. have you got my last e-mail I sent yesterday?


no, but I will at about 1 PM today


Cool.




Pszemol June 22nd 04 08:34 PM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
"Microbot" wrote in message u...
www.ntlabs.co.uk is what address is written on the bottle.
http://www.ntlabs.co.uk/ntlabsframe.htm


Thanks - interestingly they say this product has very long shelf life.
I have to find a distributor of their products here, in USA...

CheezWiz June 23rd 04 01:55 AM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
I don't think the average aquarist has the ability to preserve home
decapsulated cysts for more than a short time. I do not know why, but I have
read it here and there... I personally do not feel like it is worth the
trouble either, since I am only "treating" my fish. Now if you are feeding
fry, then that is a whole other story...


"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"Microbot" wrote in message

u...
www.ntlabs.co.uk is what address is written on the bottle.
http://www.ntlabs.co.uk/ntlabsframe.htm


Thanks - interestingly they say this product has very long shelf life.
I have to find a distributor of their products here, in USA...




Pszemol June 23rd 04 02:14 AM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
"CheezWiz" wrote in message ...
I don't think the average aquarist has the ability to preserve home
decapsulated cysts for more than a short time. I do not know why, but I have
read it here and there... I personally do not feel like it is worth the
trouble either, since I am only "treating" my fish. Now if you are feeding
fry, then that is a whole other story...


It is not worth it to mess with eggs at home, but if you can get
decapsulated and hatchable cysts with long shelf life from some
supplier that is very convenient and clean.
Even if you treat only fish - you can pullute your tank with some
unwanted animals - I had once stinging box/cube medusas I was
writting here about. They must come with artemia cysts.

Microbot June 23rd 04 02:46 AM

Experience with decapsulated artemia cysts?
 
Yes the standard way pollutes the water VERY quickly but these bottles of
Decapsulated Cysts in liquid that I use are a much cleaner way of growing
them, and they last for ages, you dont have to use them up quickly....
Hatching rate is great and they are ready to use alot quicker than standard
Cysts and the best part..... no shells. :)
And at my LFS here in Australia, the Decapsulated Cysts are nearly the same
price as the standard Cysts.....

Cheers
Microbot

"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"CheezWiz" wrote in message

...
I don't think the average aquarist has the ability to preserve home
decapsulated cysts for more than a short time. I do not know why, but I

have
read it here and there... I personally do not feel like it is worth the
trouble either, since I am only "treating" my fish. Now if you are

feeding
fry, then that is a whole other story...


It is not worth it to mess with eggs at home, but if you can get
decapsulated and hatchable cysts with long shelf life from some
supplier that is very convenient and clean.
Even if you treat only fish - you can pullute your tank with some
unwanted animals - I had once stinging box/cube medusas I was
writting here about. They must come with artemia cysts.





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