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Nikki March 25th 06 06:00 PM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi
 
I think you had said you were having problems with algee, i was at the pet
store, which i have to go back to today, but they have this pad you i think
put with your filter (says for fresh,salt, ponds) and it reduces algee its
called Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad, I looked it up when i got home and
here is the info, I dont know if it helps with the same kind of algee you
were having but thought about you when i seen it.
Nik

Use this cut-to-fit filter pad in any type of filtration system to reduce
phosphate levels that result from decaying organic material, overfeeding,
overcrowding and lack of water changes. Pad is equipped with a
phosphate-grabbing resin to keep algae growth in check. Cut to fit all types
of filters for freshwater and sal****er aquariums and ponds



Jim Conklin March 28th 06 02:15 AM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
I've used these myself but it never seems to be enough. I'm trying a
resin I saw: Doc Foster and Smith "PhosPure". But no matter what I do my
Phosphate level is always off the scale. (I have very soft and acidic well
water which is GREAT for my Discus but loaded with phosphate out of the
tap.)

50% water changes every other day if I can manage it and a sweep with a
Diatom filter the other day is the only way I can keeps things in check.

Kinda off topic but while the Diatom filter works great the
instructions on how to use and clean it are TERRIBLE. Anyone else have this
problem? After reading them over and over and trying to follow the small
convoluted diagrams I finally just gave up and messed around until I got it
working. Great filter though, once it does work. Perfect for polishing the
water the day before guests come over. Everyone heads to the tank and ooohs
and ahhhs!

But 2 days later green water if I don't filter and water change!







"Nikki" wrote in message
. ..
I think you had said you were having problems with algee, i was at the pet
store, which i have to go back to today, but they have this pad you i think
put with your filter (says for fresh,salt, ponds) and it reduces algee its
called Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad, I looked it up when i got home and
here is the info, I dont know if it helps with the same kind of algee you
were having but thought about you when i seen it.
Nik

Use this cut-to-fit filter pad in any type of filtration system to reduce
phosphate levels that result from decaying organic material, overfeeding,
overcrowding and lack of water changes. Pad is equipped with a
phosphate-grabbing resin to keep algae growth in check. Cut to fit all
types of filters for freshwater and sal****er aquariums and ponds




netDenizen March 28th 06 02:33 AM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
Jim Conklin wrote:

I've used these myself but it never seems to be enough. I'm trying a
resin I saw: Doc Foster and Smith "PhosPure". But no matter what I do my
Phosphate level is always off the scale. (I have very soft and acidic well
water which is GREAT for my Discus but loaded with phosphate out of the
tap.)

50% water changes every other day if I can manage it and a sweep with a
Diatom filter the other day is the only way I can keeps things in check.

Kinda off topic but while the Diatom filter works great the
instructions on how to use and clean it are TERRIBLE. Anyone else have this
problem? After reading them over and over and trying to follow the small
convoluted diagrams I finally just gave up and messed around until I got it
working. Great filter though, once it does work. Perfect for polishing the
water the day before guests come over. Everyone heads to the tank and ooohs
and ahhhs!

But 2 days later green water if I don't filter and water change!


My city adds some phosphate to the water to prevent pipe corrosion. Now
that I'm dosing potassium nitrate as espoused by Richard Sexton, the
aquarium plants grow like crazy and there's little algae.

Constant giant water changes don't sound good. Perhaps lots of plants
plus nitrate dosing would help you too?

Jim Conklin March 28th 06 04:39 AM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 

Potassium Nitrate dosing? I've heard of this. Is it because of the extra
potassium or the extra nitrate? Thanks for any help!

Jim






"netDenizen" wrote in message
...
Jim Conklin wrote:

I've used these myself but it never seems to be enough. I'm trying
a resin I saw: Doc Foster and Smith "PhosPure". But no matter what I do
my Phosphate level is always off the scale. (I have very soft and acidic
well water which is GREAT for my Discus but loaded with phosphate out of
the tap.)

50% water changes every other day if I can manage it and a sweep
with a Diatom filter the other day is the only way I can keeps things in
check.

Kinda off topic but while the Diatom filter works great the
instructions on how to use and clean it are TERRIBLE. Anyone else have
this problem? After reading them over and over and trying to follow
the small convoluted diagrams I finally just gave up and messed around
until I got it working. Great filter though, once it does work. Perfect
for polishing the water the day before guests come over. Everyone heads
to the tank and ooohs and ahhhs!

But 2 days later green water if I don't filter and water change!


My city adds some phosphate to the water to prevent pipe corrosion. Now
that I'm dosing potassium nitrate as espoused by Richard Sexton, the
aquarium plants grow like crazy and there's little algae.

Constant giant water changes don't sound good. Perhaps lots of plants plus
nitrate dosing would help you too?




Altum March 28th 06 08:16 AM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
Jim Conklin wrote:
Potassium Nitrate dosing? I've heard of this. Is it because of the extra
potassium or the extra nitrate? Thanks for any help!


Both. If your fish actually produce enough nitrate for your plants, you
dose only potassium.

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netDenizen March 28th 06 01:37 PM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
Jim Conklin wrote:
Potassium Nitrate dosing? I've heard of this. Is it because of the extra
potassium or the extra nitrate? Thanks for any help!

Jim


Potassium and nitrate both help the plants grow to use up the phosphate,
and you may also need to dose some iron/ trace element mix. With very
soft water like yours, it may be desirable to dose a Kh booster too, at
least at water change time. Because the plants use your phosphate, algae
problems should be reduced.

I'm dosing potassium nitrate, potassium sulphate, trace elements/ iron,
all from the hydroponics store, and Hagen pHStabilze Kh Booster - a
bottled aquarium chemical.

The krib is an excellent Internet aquaria resource, and here's a link to
the krib's plant fertilizer section:
http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/ .


Jim Conklin March 28th 06 03:16 PM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
Thanks very much! I'll give it a try. (Still HATE those Diatom
instructions though!!)




"Altum" wrote in message
. com...
Jim Conklin wrote:
Potassium Nitrate dosing? I've heard of this. Is it because of the
extra potassium or the extra nitrate? Thanks for any help!


Both. If your fish actually produce enough nitrate for your plants, you
dose only potassium.

--
Put the word aquaria in the subject to reply.
Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com




Koi-Lo March 28th 06 05:30 PM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 

"Jim Conklin" wrote in message
k.net...
Thanks very much! I'll give it a try. (Still HATE those Diatom
instructions though!!)

==========================
I'm on my second Vortex filter. What problems are you having with it?
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Aquariums since 1952
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fish lover March 29th 06 03:05 AM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
Why not install an UV to kill the algae?

I've used these myself but it never seems to be enough. I'm trying a
resin I saw: Doc Foster and Smith "PhosPure". But no matter what I do my
Phosphate level is always off the scale. (I have very soft and acidic well
water which is GREAT for my Discus but loaded with phosphate out of the
tap.)

50% water changes every other day if I can manage it and a sweep with a
Diatom filter the other day is the only way I can keeps things in check.

Kinda off topic but while the Diatom filter works great the
instructions on how to use and clean it are TERRIBLE. Anyone else have this
problem? After reading them over and over and trying to follow the small
convoluted diagrams I finally just gave up and messed around until I got it
working. Great filter though, once it does work. Perfect for polishing the
water the day before guests come over. Everyone heads to the tank and ooohs
and ahhhs!

But 2 days later green water if I don't filter and water change!







"Nikki" wrote in message
...
I think you had said you were having problems with algee, i was at the pet
store, which i have to go back to today, but they have this pad you i think
put with your filter (says for fresh,salt, ponds) and it reduces algee its
called Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad, I looked it up when i got home and
here is the info, I dont know if it helps with the same kind of algee you
were having but thought about you when i seen it.
Nik

Use this cut-to-fit filter pad in any type of filtration system to reduce
phosphate levels that result from decaying organic material, overfeeding,
overcrowding and lack of water changes. Pad is equipped with a
phosphate-grabbing resin to keep algae growth in check. Cut to fit all
types of filters for freshwater and sal****er aquariums and ponds



Richard Sexton March 29th 06 07:42 AM

Phosphate Reducing Filter Pad..koi Diatom Filter Rant Too...
 
Kinda off topic but while the Diatom filter works great the
instructions on how to use and clean it are TERRIBLE. Anyone else have this
problem? After reading them over and over and trying to follow the small
convoluted diagrams I finally just gave up and messed around until I got it
working. Great filter though, once it does work. Perfect for polishing the
water the day before guests come over. Everyone heads to the tank and ooohs
and ahhhs!


Diatom tips'n'tricks.

http://aquaria.net/articles/filter/


Concerning green water: the reason it comes back so soon if you didn't get it
all. If you remove one pound, say, of suspended alage spores that make
up green water then there are still two pounds of the stuff lurking in
the substrate and what have you. Keep filtering (you CAN leave the
filter on 24x7) and keep stirring up the gravel. WHen youi just CAN'T
get any more crud into the water my stirring things up then you've
got most of it. Now to a bunch of daily 50% water changes - for about
a week. Then you'll be rid of it - probably - for good.

That's what works for me, anyway.

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