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netDenizen April 1st 06 07:33 PM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 
Koi-Lo wrote:

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .

Koi-Lo wrote:




Cheapest way: Buy a $9.99 kiddy pool at WW and a cheap black
dropcloth to
use as a liner. Keep liner in place with a fee rocks - instant pond for
under $15.00. ;-) It's also too shallow for a 6 yr old to drown in.


What's the black dropcloth please? Fabric, plastic, where purchased...


========================
A black plastic dropcloth (also comes clear) is used to cover furniture
when one paints the ceiling or walls in a room. They can be found for
under $5 in most Wal*Mart type stores including Home Depot's and Lowe's
(more expensive there). They are non-toxic and last for up to 5 years.


Thanks for that!

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to try
a kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in the
shade to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth? I'd like to put
some of my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some hornwort -
might they be ok?

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.

Deliberately cross-posted to rec.ponds.

Nikki April 1st 06 08:38 PM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .
Koi-Lo wrote:

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .

Koi-Lo wrote:




Cheapest way: Buy a $9.99 kiddy pool at WW and a cheap black dropcloth
to
use as a liner. Keep liner in place with a fee rocks - instant pond
for
under $15.00. ;-) It's also too shallow for a 6 yr old to drown in.


What's the black dropcloth please? Fabric, plastic, where purchased...


========================
A black plastic dropcloth (also comes clear) is used to cover furniture
when one paints the ceiling or walls in a room. They can be found for
under $5 in most Wal*Mart type stores including Home Depot's and Lowe's
(more expensive there). They are non-toxic and last for up to 5 years.


Thanks for that!

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to try a
kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in the shade
to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth? I'd like to put some of
my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some hornwort - might they
be ok?

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.

Deliberately cross-posted to rec.ponds.


how about a filter, a reg pond filter
Nikki



Gill Passman April 1st 06 08:42 PM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 
Nikki wrote:
"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .

Koi-Lo wrote:

"netDenizen" wrote in message
m...


Koi-Lo wrote:


Cheapest way: Buy a $9.99 kiddy pool at WW and a cheap black dropcloth
to
use as a liner. Keep liner in place with a fee rocks - instant pond
for
under $15.00. ;-) It's also too shallow for a 6 yr old to drown in.


What's the black dropcloth please? Fabric, plastic, where purchased...

========================
A black plastic dropcloth (also comes clear) is used to cover furniture
when one paints the ceiling or walls in a room. They can be found for
under $5 in most Wal*Mart type stores including Home Depot's and Lowe's
(more expensive there). They are non-toxic and last for up to 5 years.


Thanks for that!

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to try a
kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in the shade
to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth? I'd like to put some of
my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some hornwort - might they
be ok?

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.

Deliberately cross-posted to rec.ponds.



how about a filter, a reg pond filter
Nikki


Just a suggestion, but as this is now about ponds and cross-posted to
rec.ponds - how about changing the subject? A discussion on Neon Tetras
might put the ponders off....

Gill

BTW remaining 5 still doing well :-)

netDenizen April 1st 06 09:08 PM

Kiddy-pool pond (was Neon tetras dropping like flies)
 

Re-posted with proper heading per Gill's comment. Do you have
suggestions re kiddy-pool ponds? Thanks.

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to
try a kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in
the shade to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth? I'd like
to put some of my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some
hornwort - might they be ok?

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond:
my zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big,
and I'm worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.


Koi-Lo April 1st 06 10:25 PM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .
Koi-Lo wrote:

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .

Koi-Lo wrote:

A black plastic dropcloth (also comes clear) is used to cover furniture
when one paints the ceiling or walls in a room. They can be found for
under $5 in most Wal*Mart type stores including Home Depot's and Lowe's
(more expensive there). They are non-toxic and last for up to 5 years.


Thanks for that!

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to try a
kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in the shade
to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth?


I started in 1995 with a $10 kiddy pool. Mine was in the sun, dug into the
ground and had some pond plants to shade the water a bit. I also had
hornwart and elodia in this 1st pond. The goldfish thrived!!!! See my
webiste for what these pools look like when in the earth.

I'd like to put
some of my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some hornwort -
might they be ok?


YES!!! Most definitely. A mini water lily would also look good and bloom.

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
zebra danios, platies or goldfish?


Forget tropical fish and stick with goldfish. Koi get to large for these
small 150g pools.

The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.


That can happen unless you net it. Snakes, snapper turtles, bullfrogs,
herons and king fishers also eat pond fish. All but one of my ponds and
pools are netted.

Deliberately cross-posted to rec.ponds.

--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are two Koi-Lo's on the Aquaria Groups.*
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o





Koi-Lo April 1st 06 10:27 PM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 

"Nikki" wrote in message
. ..

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .
Koi-Lo wrote:

"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .

Koi-Lo wrote:




Cheapest way: Buy a $9.99 kiddy pool at WW and a cheap black
dropcloth to
use as a liner. Keep liner in place with a fee rocks - instant pond
for
under $15.00. ;-) It's also too shallow for a 6 yr old to drown in.


What's the black dropcloth please? Fabric, plastic, where purchased...

========================
A black plastic dropcloth (also comes clear) is used to cover furniture
when one paints the ceiling or walls in a room. They can be found for
under $5 in most Wal*Mart type stores including Home Depot's and Lowe's
(more expensive there). They are non-toxic and last for up to 5 years.


Thanks for that!

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to try a
kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in the shade
to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth? I'd like to put some of
my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some hornwort - might they
be ok?

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.

Deliberately cross-posted to rec.ponds.


how about a filter, a reg pond filter
Nikki

==========================
I use a homemade filter using a 250gph pump, a pond-plant basket and window
screen. I do several major water changes over the summer.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o






Koi-Lo April 1st 06 10:30 PM

Was Neons - now "small inexpensive ponds."
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Just a suggestion, but as this is now about ponds and cross-posted to
rec.ponds - how about changing the subject? A discussion on Neon Tetras
might put the ponders off....

Gill

BTW remaining 5 still doing well :-)

======================
Gill I am so glad to hear this. They may have natural immunity and these
will thrive. BTW, I don't recommend anyone put neon's in a pond. ;-)

However since you have that atrium-like room........
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o





Gareee© April 1st 06 10:39 PM

Kiddy-pool pond (was Neon tetras dropping like flies)
 
"netDenizen" wrote in message
.. .

Re-posted with proper heading per Gill's comment. Do you have suggestions
re kiddy-pool ponds? Thanks.

Here in northern Ontario the snow is still melting, but I'd like to try
a kiddy-pool pond this summer. Would you recommend placing it in the
shade to keep it cool, or in the sun for plant growth? I'd like to put
some of my water lettuce and other plants in it, maybe some hornwort -
might they be ok?


I'd put it in partial shade to shade to keep algea growth down. Also, if yo
ucheck your local wal-mart, look for Krylon Fusion.. if you dig a shallow
hole for your "pondlet" and paint it black with th eKrylon fusion, it'l look
great (I have one like that already.)

As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.


Again, you can get 26 cent goldfish at wlamart, and they'll do quite well.

If you want to make your pond look cool at night, you can get some of the
rope lights ***WITH NO HOLES!!!!!***, leave both ends OUT of the pond, but
loop the rest around the bottom edge of the pool. At night, your whole pool
will have a glow to it! (I prefer the blue rope light, to give the pond a
bluish glow.)


--
Gareee©
(Gary Tabar Jr.)



Lar April 2nd 06 01:29 AM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 
In article ,
says...
:) As to fish, which fish would you recommend I put in the kiddy-pond: my
:) zebra danios, platies or goldfish? The goldfish are pretty big, and I'm
:) worried they'll become cat or racoon snacks.
:)
:)
the danios and platies would need to be removed when the water drops
into the 50's...long finned dannios look cool schooling about in the
light at night, as well did the bettas... there is a small fish called a
White Cloud Minnow, that looks a lot like a blood fin tetra, but it was
able to stay out in the pond all winter with the gold fish, though our
Dallas winter only gave us maybe 7-10 days where ice formed on the
pond...bit different than Ontario

Eric April 2nd 06 08:57 AM

Neon tetras dropping like flies
 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:29:24 -0600, Lar wrote
(in article ):


the danios and platies would need to be removed when the water drops
into the 50's...long finned dannios look cool schooling about in the
light at night, as well did the bettas... there is a small fish called a
White Cloud Minnow, that looks a lot like a blood fin tetra, but it was
able to stay out in the pond all winter with the gold fish, though our
Dallas winter only gave us maybe 7-10 days where ice formed on the
pond...bit different than Ontario



White clouds rule! however, they are illegal in some states because of their
cold tolerance. I don't think they need to be illegal in any area that has
Gambusia. Those little mosquito fish would beat the hell out of any batch of
white clouds that tried to go feral.

-E




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