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Altum April 18th 06 11:40 PM

Reason not to swallow tank water
 
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...m.php?news=908

Notice how resistant the isolated strain is to antibiotics. As well as
being a good reason to wash your hands after playing in your fishtank,
this is a very compelling reason to avoid using antibiotics in aquaria.

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Gill Passman April 19th 06 12:30 PM

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Altum wrote:
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...m.php?news=908

Notice how resistant the isolated strain is to antibiotics. As well as
being a good reason to wash your hands after playing in your fishtank,
this is a very compelling reason to avoid using antibiotics in aquaria.


And I thought it was my cooking.....lol

Flash Wilson April 19th 06 08:41 PM

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:40:35 GMT, Altum wrote:
Notice how resistant the isolated strain is to antibiotics. As well as
being a good reason to wash your hands after playing in your fishtank,
this is a very compelling reason to avoid using antibiotics in aquaria.


I always wash my hands after tank maintenance... otherwise they
smell "tanky"! And I wonder if the same applies in the UK where
we don't get antibiotics for pets over the counter, so it's
very rarely seen in home aquaria. Be interesting to compare.

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Altum April 19th 06 09:45 PM

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Flash Wilson wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:40:35 GMT, Altum wrote:
Notice how resistant the isolated strain is to antibiotics. As well as
being a good reason to wash your hands after playing in your fishtank,
this is a very compelling reason to avoid using antibiotics in aquaria.


I always wash my hands after tank maintenance... otherwise they
smell "tanky"! And I wonder if the same applies in the UK where
we don't get antibiotics for pets over the counter, so it's
very rarely seen in home aquaria. Be interesting to compare.

The tanks were Aussie. IIRC, aquarists can't get antibiotics there
either. The resistant strains probably come from fish farms.

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Mister Gardener April 19th 06 11:10 PM

Reason not to swallow tank water
 
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:41:11 +0000 (UTC), (Flash
Wilson) wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:40:35 GMT, Altum wrote:
Notice how resistant the isolated strain is to antibiotics. As well as
being a good reason to wash your hands after playing in your fishtank,
this is a very compelling reason to avoid using antibiotics in aquaria.


I always wash my hands after tank maintenance... otherwise they
smell "tanky"! And I wonder if the same applies in the UK where
we don't get antibiotics for pets over the counter, so it's
very rarely seen in home aquaria. Be interesting to compare.


I don't think we can blame North Americans for this one. Clipped from
The New York Times:

Though the particular drug-resistant strain identified in Australia
has yet to be reported from American aquariums, Dr. Fred Angulo of the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that taking the sorts
of precautions that Dr. Lightfoot and Dr. Gaulin recommended made good
sense.

The article headline was something about Nemo. Maybe this story will
scare some mommies enough that they will stop buying cute little Nemos
for their snotty nosed little brats to imprison and slowly poison in
little fishbowls.

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Koi-Lo April 20th 06 01:51 AM

Reason not to swallow tank water
 

"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
...
The article headline was something about Nemo. Maybe this story will
scare some mommies enough that they will stop buying cute little Nemos
for their snotty nosed little brats to imprison and slowly poison in
little fishbowls.

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It can't be any worse than how the baby turtles, chicks and ducklings were
tormented and abused to death until outlawed. :*( Tiny fishbowls should be
the next thing to go.
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Suzie-Q April 20th 06 05:56 PM

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In article ,
Altum wrote:

- http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...m.php?news=908

---QUOTE---
It advises against washing aquarium accessories in the kitchen or bathroom sink:
"If you have no other option, then thoroughly clean and disinfect all the
surfaces used with a bleach solution of four tablespoons per liter of lukewarm
water. Rinse these surfaces well before reusing."
---END QUOTE---

Uh oh.
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Gill Passman April 20th 06 06:05 PM

Reason not to swallow tank water
 
Suzie-Q wrote:
In article ,
Altum wrote:

- http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...m.php?news=908

---QUOTE---
It advises against washing aquarium accessories in the kitchen or bathroom sink:
"If you have no other option, then thoroughly clean and disinfect all the
surfaces used with a bleach solution of four tablespoons per liter of lukewarm
water. Rinse these surfaces well before reusing."
---END QUOTE---

Uh oh.


Well I got this email from PFK this morning:-

"Dear Gill,

Have you had an upset stomach recently? New research suggests that "the
trots" and acute gastroenteritis normally attributed to dodgy curries
and out-of-date chicken might actually be caused by bacteria living in
our aquaria.

In two separate studies, scientists have found that many cases of
Salmonella were caused by contact with aquariums, and around half of the
tanks examined held the potentially dangerous bacteria in their water.
In these studies, not only have Salmonella been found in aquaria, but
some of the Salmonella strains isolated are particularly unpleasant ones
that have resistance to many types of antibiotic.

However, while this emphasises just how important it is to wash your
hands thoroughly after maintaining your tank, and to avoid using your
mouth to start up your gravel cleaning siphon, I think it's also worth
taking the news with a pinch of salt. I've kept fish for decades, and
have inadvertently inhaled the odd lungful of minging mulm-laden water,
and I haven't noticed that I suffer any more stomach upsets than my
non-fishkeeping friends. Have any of you? Tell us about it on the blog
If you're not too embarrassed."

I suppose I ought to rethink my habit of sucking on the syphon to start
the water change, along with my habit of doing the water changes on the
kitchen tanks while I am cooking dinner....

Gill





Mister Gardener April 20th 06 06:54 PM

Reason not to swallow tank water
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Gill Passman
wrote:

Suzie-Q wrote:
In article ,
Altum wrote:

- http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...m.php?news=908

---QUOTE---
It advises against washing aquarium accessories in the kitchen or bathroom sink:
"If you have no other option, then thoroughly clean and disinfect all the
surfaces used with a bleach solution of four tablespoons per liter of lukewarm
water. Rinse these surfaces well before reusing."
---END QUOTE---

Uh oh.


Well I got this email from PFK this morning:-

"Dear Gill,

Have you had an upset stomach recently? New research suggests that "the
trots" and acute gastroenteritis normally attributed to dodgy curries
and out-of-date chicken might actually be caused by bacteria living in
our aquaria.

In two separate studies, scientists have found that many cases of
Salmonella were caused by contact with aquariums, and around half of the
tanks examined held the potentially dangerous bacteria in their water.
In these studies, not only have Salmonella been found in aquaria, but
some of the Salmonella strains isolated are particularly unpleasant ones
that have resistance to many types of antibiotic.

However, while this emphasises just how important it is to wash your
hands thoroughly after maintaining your tank, and to avoid using your
mouth to start up your gravel cleaning siphon, I think it's also worth
taking the news with a pinch of salt. I've kept fish for decades, and
have inadvertently inhaled the odd lungful of minging mulm-laden water,
and I haven't noticed that I suffer any more stomach upsets than my
non-fishkeeping friends. Have any of you? Tell us about it on the blog
If you're not too embarrassed."

I suppose I ought to rethink my habit of sucking on the syphon to start
the water change, along with my habit of doing the water changes on the
kitchen tanks while I am cooking dinner....

Gill



I got the same email from PFK. I shall continue to suck on my siphon
tube. I don't do water changes while preparing dinner, but I do hang
my nets on the kitchen pegboard alongside all of my cooking utensils.

Perhaps I will begin wiping off the end of the tube on my sleeve
before sucking on it. As for the nets in the kitchen, perhaps I'll
find a new hook for them, away from the other stuff.

-- Mister Gardener

Charles April 20th 06 08:39 PM

Reason not to swallow tank water
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:05:16 +0100, Gill Passman
wrote:

Suzie-Q wrote:
In article ,
Altum wrote:

- http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...m.php?news=908

---QUOTE---
It advises against washing aquarium accessories in the kitchen or bathroom sink:
"If you have no other option, then thoroughly clean and disinfect all the
surfaces used with a bleach solution of four tablespoons per liter of lukewarm
water. Rinse these surfaces well before reusing."
---END QUOTE---

Uh oh.


Well I got this email from PFK this morning:-

"Dear Gill,

Have you had an upset stomach recently? New research suggests that "the
trots" and acute gastroenteritis normally attributed to dodgy curries
and out-of-date chicken might actually be caused by bacteria living in
our aquaria.

In two separate studies, scientists have found that many cases of
Salmonella were caused by contact with aquariums, and around half of the
tanks examined held the potentially dangerous bacteria in their water.
In these studies, not only have Salmonella been found in aquaria, but
some of the Salmonella strains isolated are particularly unpleasant ones
that have resistance to many types of antibiotic.

However, while this emphasises just how important it is to wash your
hands thoroughly after maintaining your tank, and to avoid using your
mouth to start up your gravel cleaning siphon, I think it's also worth
taking the news with a pinch of salt. I've kept fish for decades, and
have inadvertently inhaled the odd lungful of minging mulm-laden water,
and I haven't noticed that I suffer any more stomach upsets than my
non-fishkeeping friends. Have any of you? Tell us about it on the blog
If you're not too embarrassed."

I suppose I ought to rethink my habit of sucking on the syphon to start
the water change, along with my habit of doing the water changes on the
kitchen tanks while I am cooking dinner....

Gill



Lung full? Wow. A mouth full, at times, yes, but not a whole lung
full.

:-)

I've filled my mouth full a few times, never worried much about it.
I've also eaten on the economy in a few third world countries, and had
interesting experiences from that, but haven't died yet. On the other
hand, I am tired of this cold I have now, I wonder what I can blame
that on.

:-)




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