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Tynk July 30th 06 03:23 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 
Finally a good article on Bettas in Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine.
(Koi-Lo...please read it. It basically says every thing I have been
saying over and over that you claim is my own opinion, and not fact.
Learn something and give your bettas the proper care they need!)
It's in the September issue, pg. 86.
The only thing it lacked was the proper pronunciation of Betta
("bet-uh").
Some highlights:
Water temp...80*f
Ideal set up is planted tank (not a bowl or vase).
Vases are "sorely inadequate habitats".
Minimum volume for a single Betta is 1g, preferably 2 or 3 gallons.
Room temps are not adequate, unless the room temp is at tropical temps
(high 70's-low80's).
Their ability to breathe air and therefore not asphyxiate in a small
amount of water often condems them to a lingering death from ammonia
poisoning in a vase or bowl.
So folks, please get those poor Bettas out of the vases or bowls!
They shouldn't be there!
And Koi-Lo...don't argue. It only shows your ignorance of proper Betta
husbandry.


Köi-Lö July 30th 06 05:01 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Finally a good article on Bettas in Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine.
(Koi-Lo...please read it.


Post the article here. I don't get that magazine anymore.

It basically says every thing I have been
saying over and over that you claim is my own opinion, and not fact.


I didn't say it was not FACT. I said there are other ways to keep bettas
than in filtered, heated tanks.

Learn something and give your bettas the proper care they need!)


Maybe you need to learn that bettas do very well and live long lives in
other than heated and filtered tanks.

It's in the September issue, pg. 86.
The only thing it lacked was the proper pronunciation of Betta
("bet-uh").
Some highlights:
Water temp...80*f


And mine live over 4 1/2 years in less than that.

Ideal set up is planted tank (not a bowl or vase).


Ideal, not mandatory.

Vases are "sorely inadequate habitats".


Vases? Vases are for flowers?!?!?!

Minimum volume for a single Betta is 1g, preferably 2 or 3 gallons.

Room temps are not adequate, unless the room temp is at tropical temps
(high 70's-low80's).


My bettas never read that.

Their ability to breathe air and therefore not asphyxiate in a small
amount of water often condems them to a lingering death from ammonia
poisoning in a vase or bowl.


As though ammonia doesn't form in a gallon tank or bowl. To avoid ammonia
you rinse the bowl and it's gravel in dechlored water and use a small plant
which isn't rinsed at all. I learned this from a NY breeder long ago. I
use water lettuce which stays small indoors. The nitrifying bacteria are
not killed off using this technique. Few breeders can afford (or have the
room for) hundreds of heated planted tanks for their bettas.

So folks, please get those poor Bettas out of the vases or bowls!
They shouldn't be there!
And Koi-Lo...don't argue. It only shows your ignorance of proper Betta
husbandry.


And your ignorance of bettas and other ways to keep them........... for
years! ;-)
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Tynk July 30th 06 05:19 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

Köi-Lö wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Finally a good article on Bettas in Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine.
(Koi-Lo...please read it.


Post the article here. I don't get that magazine anymore.


Did you not see the part of about not arguing the points koi-lo, and
that it will only show your ignorance of proper Betta
husbandry....aparently not, as you just did it again. LOL

Read for yourself:
tfhmagazine.com

After reading it, you should no more arguments.
Oh...and the comment how your Bettas never read it...how ridiculous.
Maybe I'll start posting how Goldies are just fine to be kept in a
gallon bowl...
We all know it's not true, but hey..people do it every day.
Just stop arguing. Even when given the proper care in black and white,
you STILL argue it. How stupid!


Tynk July 30th 06 05:28 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

Tynk wrote:
Köi-Lö wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Finally a good article on Bettas in Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine.
(Koi-Lo...please read it.


Post the article here. I don't get that magazine anymore.


Did you not see the part of about not arguing the points koi-lo, and
that it will only show your ignorance of proper Betta
husbandry....aparently not, as you just did it again. LOL

Read for yourself:
tfhmagazine.com

After reading it, you should no more arguments.
Oh...and the comment how your Bettas never read it...how ridiculous.
Maybe I'll start posting how Goldies are just fine to be kept in a
gallon bowl...
We all know it's not true, but hey..people do it every day.
Just stop arguing. Even when given the proper care in black and white,
you STILL argue it. How stupid!


I checked their website and they still have the June issue up. When
clicking "next month's Issue" it doesn't come up yet.
However, walk into a shop and pick the darn thing up. Pg 86 of the
September issue.
Again, don't bother arguing.
Also, I have NO ignorance when it comes to Bettas. That's quite
obvious.
I also refuse to keep them in horrible conditions such as those tiny,
room temp bowls.
Please stop comparing how a breeder keeps their Bettas. You cannot
compare that situation with a permanent home. The growing fish are in
small quarters for short periods of time (few months) compared to
years.
You're being silly when you try to compare the two.
They are two completely different situations.


Köi-Lö July 30th 06 06:33 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Köi-Lö wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...
Finally a good article on Bettas in Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine.
(Koi-Lo...please read it.


Post the article here. I don't get that magazine anymore.


Did you not see the part of about not arguing the points koi-lo,


Then why do you insist in arguing over this?

and

that it will only show your ignorance of proper Betta
husbandry....aparently not, as you just did it again. LOL

LOL, and your IGNORANCE that bettas do not require heated filtered tanks to
thrive. LOL

Read for yourself:

tfhmagazine.com

So? Mine live well over 4 years without filtration and heaters.

After reading it, you should no more arguments.
Oh...and the comment how your Bettas never read it...how ridiculous.

LOL.... like your claims bettas require heated tanks? LOL

Maybe I'll start posting how Goldies are just fine to be kept in a
gallon bowl...

Goldies aren't bettas LOL.......

We all know it's not true, but hey..people do it every day.


LOL... and GF is dead in 48 hours while the betta lives for YEARS in gallon
(and less) bowls. LOL

Just stop arguing.

So just stop arguing and admit there are other ways to keep bettas healthy
and thriving than heated filtered tanks.

Even when given the proper care in black and white,

you STILL argue it. How stupid!

Proper care? Sure - and I would love to live in a 10 room mansion instead
of a 3 bedroom house. How stupid YOU are to troll me like you do when
anyone who's kept and raised bettas don't keep each one in a heated filtered
tank. LOL
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*







Köi-Lö July 30th 06 06:34 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
ups.com...

You're being silly when you try to compare the two.
They are two completely different situations.
===========================
And you're being a tiresome TROLL..........
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





Tynk July 30th 06 08:30 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

Köi-Lö wrote:

Everytime you post your bullcrap about Bettas, you prove me right over
and over.
Your complete ignorance in proper Betta care shows each time.
Please go out and pick up the September issue of TFH. I dare you.
I double dog dare you to read it! LOL
Sweetie you are the troll.
You claim untrue info constantly, then when somebody corrects it you
call them a troll.
If you dislike me correcting you, stop posting bullcrap about Betta
care.
Until you can get it right, let the knowledgeable folks handle it.

Your claim that you've kept them in unheated or small bowls for years
simply means you have abused them that much longer. It doesn't mean
it's right to do so.
You will go off on anyone who keeps Goldies in bad conditions, yes you
house Bettas in poor conditions. You are a total hypocrite and anyone
can see that.
I wonder, do you realize that when folks pick up the Sept. issue of TFH
and read pg. 86, every one of those humans will know you are a buffoon!
= )~
Again, if you dislike my correcting you, stop spreading your incorrect
garbage.
Until then, I will continue to spread the truth. The facts. Not my
personal opinion.


Köi-Lö July 31st 06 05:25 AM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Köi-Lö wrote:

Everytime you post your bullcrap about Bettas, you prove me right over
and over.

* And every time you TROLL me you prove how desperate you are to make people
believe there is only one way to keep bettas for some reason. It's as if
you fear they wont do as you tell them to do. That you will be proved
wrong. You refuse to accept that there are OTHER ways to keep bettas than
in heated filtered tanks.

Your complete ignorance in proper Betta care shows each time.

* Your complete ignorance that people keep them for years in unheated and
unfiltered tanks shows each time you TROLL me. Your know-it-all rudeness
proves you a TROLL who fears to be proved wrong - which of course you are.

Please go out and pick up the September issue of TFH. I dare you.
I double dog dare you to read it! LOL

* And that will make all the bettas in unheated and unfiltered tanks all
over the world suddenly drop dead in their bowls and jars? LOL!!!!!!!!
:-D

Sweetie you are the troll.

* Sweetie, you are a troll because you TROLL me constantly. You're rude,
nasty and a know-it-all.

You claim untrue info constantly, then when somebody corrects it you
call them a troll.

* You claim untrue info constantly, claiming bettas must live in filtered
heated tanks, then when somebody corrects it you
call them a troll.

If you dislike me correcting you, stop posting bullcrap about Betta
care.

* If you dislike me correcting you that they can indeed live all their lives
in unheated and unfiltered tanks, stop posting bullcrap about Betta care
here.

Until you can get it right, let the knowledgeable folks handle it.

* Until you can get it right that they don't REQUIRE filtered and heated
tanks, let the knowledgeable folks handle it.

----- snip your endless troll BS --------
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Tynk July 31st 06 03:35 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

Köi-Lö wrote:
Sniped for bullcrap.

Would like some cheese with your WHINE?

You obviously refuse to learn.
Keep saying that you keep them for years in unheated bowls, it only
proves you are absuing them.
Each and every time you say this.
Are you really that thick headed?
You've never checked the facts, you simply state you've kept them for
years in bowls.
That proves nothing except that you aren't properly caring for them!
DUH
Stick to what you know..Goldfish!


Köi-Lö July 31st 06 06:24 PM

Good article on Bettas in TFH
 

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

Köi-Lö wrote:
Sniped for bullcrap.
========================
I thought you weren't TROLLING me? :-) I have pictures to prove they live
quite long and healthy lives in other than heated, filtered tanks.
--
KL....
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*






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