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Peter Cashen August 16th 06 08:31 PM

Newbie!
 
Hi I decided to get a tank the other day....

so I bought a 30 litre hexagonal tank, a heater and Elite Stingray 10
Underwater Filter (for tanks up to 50 litre) - the filter seems really
big!

I bought white gravel one or two plastic plants and a small statue
kinda thing. Looks a bit plain and you can see the filter just sitting
there at the back of the tank.

Cleaned everything including gravel and then filled with water.... put
in some anti-chlorine stuff, switched the filter and heater on and left
for 24 hours... but the water still seems cloudy!?!?

I want to get fish this weekend, but have been told to get some real
hard fish that can survive anything.... any recommendations!?!?

I want it to look nice but think it looks plain, but as its only small
I dont want to overpower it.... Can I add and remove stuff from the
tank after the fish have gone in??

Also, I didnt get a light.... but have seen the moonlight ones on
ebay.... tubes and leds... which are better....

Any recommendations on styling or general advice about cloudy water and
general stuff would be much much appreciated.

Thanks

Peter


Dick August 17th 06 12:29 AM

Newbie!
 
On 16 Aug 2006 12:31:12 -0700, "Peter Cashen"
wrote:

Hi I decided to get a tank the other day....

so I bought a 30 litre hexagonal tank, a heater and Elite Stingray 10
Underwater Filter (for tanks up to 50 litre) - the filter seems really
big!

I bought white gravel one or two plastic plants and a small statue
kinda thing. Looks a bit plain and you can see the filter just sitting
there at the back of the tank.

Cleaned everything including gravel and then filled with water.... put
in some anti-chlorine stuff, switched the filter and heater on and left
for 24 hours... but the water still seems cloudy!?!?

I want to get fish this weekend, but have been told to get some real
hard fish that can survive anything.... any recommendations!?!?

I want it to look nice but think it looks plain, but as its only small
I dont want to overpower it.... Can I add and remove stuff from the
tank after the fish have gone in??

Also, I didnt get a light.... but have seen the moonlight ones on
ebay.... tubes and leds... which are better....

Any recommendations on styling or general advice about cloudy water and
general stuff would be much much appreciated.

Thanks

Peter

I hope you are asking these questions of your fish dealer. He knows
your locality plus he has the stock you will choose from.

Start with a couple of inexpensive fish. When the tank has "cycled"
(check google for more detail) you can get a few more fish. Figure
adult size fish of 1 or 2 inches, no more than 6 fish total.

Don't overfeed. Hard to do, the fish are always hungry and look so
appealing.

Be sure to check the water temperature with a thermostat. Don't trust
the heater settings: "Trust, but verify!"

Change a gallon of water each week and replace any water that
evaporates.

As you have more specific questions, it will be easier for others to
help.

Good luck,

dick

carlrs August 17th 06 12:39 AM

Newbie!
 
Here is a site with alot usefull information from basic set up to
aquarium medication and treatment:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/

Carl


Nick Chan August 18th 06 11:21 AM

Newbie!
 
i started to rare rainbow crabs
they are so cute !
walk sideways
eat almost anything
you should too !

Peter Cashen wrote:
Hi I decided to get a tank the other day....

so I bought a 30 litre hexagonal tank, a heater and Elite Stingray 10
Underwater Filter (for tanks up to 50 litre) - the filter seems really
big!

I bought white gravel one or two plastic plants and a small statue
kinda thing. Looks a bit plain and you can see the filter just sitting
there at the back of the tank.

Cleaned everything including gravel and then filled with water.... put
in some anti-chlorine stuff, switched the filter and heater on and left
for 24 hours... but the water still seems cloudy!?!?

I want to get fish this weekend, but have been told to get some real
hard fish that can survive anything.... any recommendations!?!?

I want it to look nice but think it looks plain, but as its only small
I dont want to overpower it.... Can I add and remove stuff from the
tank after the fish have gone in??

Also, I didnt get a light.... but have seen the moonlight ones on
ebay.... tubes and leds... which are better....

Any recommendations on styling or general advice about cloudy water and
general stuff would be much much appreciated.

Thanks

Peter



swarvegorilla August 20th 06 12:30 AM

Newbie!
 
slow down mate
I'd 'feed' the tank a little fish food each day
and get the water tested for ammonia and nitrite
around the 2 week mark (or 3 to 4 if not a perfect run) if all goes really
well
you should be able to test zero ammonia and zero nitrite.
Do a 50% water change (try never do more than this 25% changes are much more
sensible)
And your ready for your fish
ALWAYS clean the filter sponge with water from the fish tank
Wanna keep the bacteria alive or the 2 weeks before adding fish is wasted
good luck
be patient, the cloudieness in the water passes once the filter is
established.
:-)



"Peter Cashen" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi I decided to get a tank the other day....

so I bought a 30 litre hexagonal tank, a heater and Elite Stingray 10
Underwater Filter (for tanks up to 50 litre) - the filter seems really
big!

I bought white gravel one or two plastic plants and a small statue
kinda thing. Looks a bit plain and you can see the filter just sitting
there at the back of the tank.

Cleaned everything including gravel and then filled with water.... put
in some anti-chlorine stuff, switched the filter and heater on and left
for 24 hours... but the water still seems cloudy!?!?

I want to get fish this weekend, but have been told to get some real
hard fish that can survive anything.... any recommendations!?!?

I want it to look nice but think it looks plain, but as its only small
I dont want to overpower it.... Can I add and remove stuff from the
tank after the fish have gone in??

Also, I didnt get a light.... but have seen the moonlight ones on
ebay.... tubes and leds... which are better....

Any recommendations on styling or general advice about cloudy water and
general stuff would be much much appreciated.

Thanks

Peter




swarvegorilla August 20th 06 12:32 AM

Newbie!
 
That site really isn't that helpful
Myabe if your gonna spam it so much you should put some others up as well
Netmax does a good aquarium site and he's not trying to make cash out of it.
Although he should
guy has put a lot of effort into helping the n0000bs of the hoby




"carlrs" wrote in message
ps.com...
Here is a site with alot usefull information from basic set up to
aquarium medication and treatment:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/

Carl




Gill Passman August 20th 06 12:33 AM

Newbie!
 
swarvegorilla wrote:
That site really isn't that helpful
Myabe if your gonna spam it so much you should put some others up as well
Netmax does a good aquarium site and he's not trying to make cash out of it.
Although he should
guy has put a lot of effort into helping the n0000bs of the hoby




"carlrs" wrote in message
ps.com...

Here is a site with alot usefull information from basic set up to
aquarium medication and treatment:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/

Carl





The link to NetMax's site is:-


http://www.netmax.tk

You can also get in touch with him direct on the following group:-

http://groups.google.com/group/The-F...Aquarium?hl=en

Gill

swarvegorilla August 20th 06 12:52 AM

Newbie!
 

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
swarvegorilla wrote:
That site really isn't that helpful
Myabe if your gonna spam it so much you should put some others up as well
Netmax does a good aquarium site and he's not trying to make cash out of
it.
Although he should
guy has put a lot of effort into helping the n0000bs of the hoby




"carlrs" wrote in message
ps.com...

Here is a site with alot usefull information from basic set up to
aquarium medication and treatment:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/

Carl





The link to NetMax's site is:-


http://www.netmax.tk

You can also get in touch with him direct on the following group:-

http://groups.google.com/group/The-F...Aquarium?hl=en

Gill


doh was getting there!
ummm.... ALtum posts some great links too
the net is a goldmine of info and if ya take time to read while your tank
clears up
you'll be a pro in no time!
so ya a cut and paste for ya, helps you not haviung to scroll down anyway
:-)
Here's what I (altum) post monthly. The links have all been vetted and
contributed by folks who were regulars on rafm.

------------------------------------------------------------------

We have an extensive FAQ, located at http://faq.thekrib.com. The
beginner's section is http://faq.thekrib.com/begin.html and
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html explains why new tanks are
hard to start. There is a lot of valuable information there on
everything from starting your first fishtank to fish selection to
growing live plants. Please have a look at the FAQ to see if your
questions are answered there before you post.

There are also a number of very valuable internet resources on fish and
aquaria. Here are some of the very best, and you will often see them
mentioned.

Pages by our regulars:
Netmax's site with great general information http://www.netmax.tk
Richard Sexton's site, with articles and a great photo collection
http://aquaria.net
International Killifish Association http://killi.net
CanadianCray's Crayfish Addicts Anonymous http://www.canadiancrayfish.ca

Other great sites:
The Skeptical Aquarist with general information
http://www.skepticalaquarist.com
Monga Bay with biotope and species information http://www.mongabay.com
Fishbase - very accurate species information http://www.fishbase.org
The Krib, host of many years of carefully selected rec.aquaria archives
http://www.thekrib.com
FINS - Fish Information Service http://fins.actwin.com/fish/
Planet Catfish http://www.planetcatfish.com
Cichlids.com http://www.cichlids.com
Greater Chicago Cichlids Association http://www.gcca.net
Betta Talk http://www.bettatalk.com
Apple Snail.net http://www.applesnail.net
Loaches.com http://www.loaches.com
Home of the Rainbowfish http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/
Thomas Barr's aquatic plant site http://www.barrreport.com (requires
free registration)
Tropica Aquarium Plants http://www.tropica.dk
Chuck's Planted Aquarium Pages with the fertilizer calculator
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/
Endlers R Us http://www.endlersr.us/

General usenet info:
A list of fishy and usenet abbreviations is at
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/acronym.php
Newsreader killfile and troll info can be found at
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/
More troll information at http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

--
Come join us in a friendly, on-topic fish and pond forum:
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium
Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com



carlrs August 20th 06 06:14 AM

Newbie!
 

swarvegorilla wrote:
That site really isn't that helpful
Myabe if your gonna spam it so much you should put some others up as well
Netmax does a good aquarium site and he's not trying to make cash out of it.
Although he should
guy has put a lot of effort into helping the n0000bs of the hoby




"carlrs" wrote in message
ps.com...
Here is a site with alot usefull information from basic set up to
aquarium medication and treatment:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/

Carl

Yes Netmax has an excellent site. My site is relatively new, but does
have many basic but useful links built on my 27 years of experience
professionally maintaining aquariums and helping many newbie's over
the years for NO CHARGE! I still continue to make gratis house calls
even though my health and other issues have forced me to sell my
maintenance business.
Also the products I sell are based on what I believe in and have used,
not necessarily what is most profitable.

I think you should lighten up and check out my blogs and who I am.
Carl


swarvegorilla August 20th 06 09:57 AM

Newbie!
 

"carlrs" wrote in message
ups.com...

swarvegorilla wrote:
That site really isn't that helpful
Myabe if your gonna spam it so much you should put some others up as well
Netmax does a good aquarium site and he's not trying to make cash out of
it.
Although he should
guy has put a lot of effort into helping the n0000bs of the hoby




"carlrs" wrote in message
ps.com...
Here is a site with alot usefull information from basic set up to
aquarium medication and treatment:
http://aquarium-info.blogspot.com/

Carl

Yes Netmax has an excellent site. My site is relatively new, but does
have many basic but useful links built on my 27 years of experience
professionally maintaining aquariums and helping many newbie's over
the years for NO CHARGE! I still continue to make gratis house calls
even though my health and other issues have forced me to sell my
maintenance business.
Also the products I sell are based on what I believe in and have used,
not necessarily what is most profitable.

I think you should lighten up and check out my blogs and who I am.
Carl


I hardly think it was a harsh flame mate.
Besides I'm no little kid ya hear?
I deal with the gp on fish every frokin' day
and I don't whinge and bitch
I also don't have to pull numbers of years of experience outta my arse to
impress people.
I live the dream.
read your blog. sorry not super impressed but glad it makes ya feel big.
anyway rock on I spose.
But yea please spam your site instead of talkin to peeps
It's great, really gets the community feel going.
Oh and no
I'm not having a go at ya mate
I just really don't care about your feelings
any lighter an' I'd float away ya'hear?




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