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John April 30th 04 04:08 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)

-= Gandalf =-

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Eric Schreiber April 30th 04 06:49 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
Joh wrote:

Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea Puffer


Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?


They are not brackish. They are true freshwater fish.

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.


That's probably a good idea.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?


Mine never got any bigger than about 1/2" to 3/4". I would consider
1.5" their extreme maximum size, and uncommon.

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank?


Yes. I kept four in a 3-gallon tank without any difficulty. You won't
be overcrowding them at all with 7 in a 20. You should aquascape so
they can explore nooks and crannies, and set up territories. Also, I
found that solid background and gravel colors made it easier to see
them. I tried a mixed stone substrate for awhile, and the puffers were
all but invisible against it.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.


One additional note - mine were very finicky eaters, and would only
take frozen blood worms, and whatever extra small live snails I tossed
into their tank. For your own convenience, you should try to train them
to take other foods as well as bloodworm.

--
www.ericschreiber.com

TR April 30th 04 11:32 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
"John -^)) " wrote in message
...
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)


I have two in a 20g tank, along with a few mollies, 2 corys, 2 otos.
Freshwater, and I add a little salt occasionaly, no problems.
I have read that they can be fin nippers, but I never see them chasing the
other fish.
They don't eat flake food. They love frozen brine shrimp, and they eat
snails, but only small ones since they are so small themselves.
I love to watch them on the hunt, they look like little attack helicopters,
right down to the camoflaged paint job. They hover over the snail and slowly
circle, their big eyes pivoting like searchlights on the snail. Then wham!
they streak in to get the snail.
They are some of the best fish I've gotten, fun to watch. They seem pretty
hardy too, no problems with a bout of ich and fungus and related treatments
for the other fish in the past month or so.



Colleen Dawe April 30th 04 12:46 PM

Dwarf Puffer
 
Before you get them from the store ask them if they have them housed in
brackish water, if they are in fresh ask them how long they have had them
in the store this way you know how hardy they are.


"John -^)) " wrote in message
...
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)

-= Gandalf =-

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
o
o
/ \ | \ (( -
\| \/ / o
| / | o
\ | / - ))
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




Rob May 1st 04 02:33 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
There's a great web site on them here, by a guy who has bred them:

http://www.rr.iij4u.or.jp/~kohda/en-index.htm

- Rob

"John -^)) " wrote in message
...
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)

-= Gandalf =-

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
o
o
/ \ | \ (( -
\| \/ / o
| / | o
\ | / - ))
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




luminos May 1st 04 06:41 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 

"Rob" wrote in message
news:q7Dkc.307972$Pk3.59080@pd7tw1no...
There's a great web site on them here, by a guy who has bred them:

http://www.rr.iij4u.or.jp/~kohda/en-index.htm

- Rob


And for somone doing this in small tanks claiming these 'are not proud
tanks.'....it demonstrates the level of tank aquaculture common in Japan I
think. They look very good to me for what they are intended to be!





Graham Broadbridge May 1st 04 02:41 PM

Dwarf Puffer
 
"John -^)) " wrote in message
...
I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.


Some additional CO2 will help plant growth in even a low light tank. DIY
CO2 is the way to go in small low light tanks. Just dont add additional
ferts unless you're looking for an algae jungle.

Graham.



NetMax May 2nd 04 12:51 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
"John -^)) " wrote in message
...
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)

-= Gandalf =-


http://puffernet.tripod.com/main.html
http://puffernet.tripod.com/species.html for names (sci to common)
http://puffernet.tripod.com/travancoricus.html your Malabar (freshwater)
Hilarious little guys, but very little (1"). I have 3 in a 5g with a
Paradise fish, and about 20 in a commercial 20g at work, so 7 in your 20g
should be fine.
--
http://www.netmax.tk/



John May 2nd 04 06:43 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:51:28 -0400, "NetMax"
wrote:

"John -^)) " wrote in message
.. .
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)

-= Gandalf =-


http://puffernet.tripod.com/main.html
http://puffernet.tripod.com/species.html for names (sci to common)
http://puffernet.tripod.com/travancoricus.html your Malabar (freshwater)
Hilarious little guys, but very little (1"). I have 3 in a 5g with a
Paradise fish, and about 20 in a commercial 20g at work, so 7 in your 20g
should be fine.




Thanks for the links Netmax. Will take a look at them.


p.s. that's strange Agent deletes Netmax's link to his site when I
post a reply. Very weird.

John May 2nd 04 07:00 AM

Dwarf Puffer
 
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:32:55 GMT, "TR"
wrote:

"John -^)) " wrote in message
.. .
I'm thinking of setting up a species tank, a Dwarf Puffer (Pea Puffer)
tank to be exact. All the info I found on the web about these little
fish has just confused me. I need to make sure I know what I'm
getting into before I go out and get some. I also need to know what
kind of water to have.

I need the following cleared up please.

Common Names: Dwarf Puffer, Malabar Puffer, and at Big Al,s Pea
Puffer

Are these fish Brackish or Not?..... Some sites says they ARE Brackish
and will NOT do well in fresh water, others say they ARE NOT Brackish
but are FULL fresh water fish. Which are they PLEASE?

They will be going into a tank just for them, no other fish.

The Max size of these fish are around 1.5"?

Would a max of 7 be OK in a 20 Gallon Tank? or are we going to be over
crowding and asking for disaster? don't forget they will be the only
fish in this tank.

I've done a search on the Tropica site for plants (Brackish) and have
come up with a few choices. If I can get them locally this tank will
also be a low light planted tank with DIY CO2 if CO2 will be a benefit
to a low light tank.

Any and all help greatly appreciated.

Thanks
John (AKA)


I have two in a 20g tank, along with a few mollies, 2 corys, 2 otos.
Freshwater, and I add a little salt occasionaly, no problems.
I have read that they can be fin nippers, but I never see them chasing the
other fish.
They don't eat flake food. They love frozen brine shrimp, and they eat
snails, but only small ones since they are so small themselves.
I love to watch them on the hunt, they look like little attack helicopters,
right down to the camoflaged paint job. They hover over the snail and slowly
circle, their big eyes pivoting like searchlights on the snail. Then wham!
they streak in to get the snail.
They are some of the best fish I've gotten, fun to watch. They seem pretty
hardy too, no problems with a bout of ich and fungus and related treatments
for the other fish in the past month or so.



Thanks for the reply. I'm going to put 7 in a planted 20g tank. This
tank will be a Dwarf Puffer fish only tank no other fish.

Just need to get as much info first before I get them. Don't want to
make the mistake of just getting them 'cause they are sooooo "cute"
then running for help 'cause they start to die, wont eat what I give
them and any other number of preventible mistakes/problems.



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