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StringerBell October 24th 06 01:38 AM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
As with most stuff on the internet, I`mgetting mixed messages regarding
Lemon Peel Angels,Coral Polyps and Mushrooms.
Some places say LPAs are reef safe, some say they may nip at soft corals.
Does anyone have an opinion on this through direct observation? If they do
"nip" mushrooms, do they eat the whole `shroom, or just take chunks out? And
if they do take chunks out, do the corals regenerate?
Due to my tank size I was thinking of the Lemon Peel as an alternative to
Yellow Tangs. I have also heard that the Tangs are more succeptable to
parasites.

Thanks again................



kim gross October 24th 06 03:38 AM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
StringerBell wrote:
As with most stuff on the internet, I`mgetting mixed messages regarding
Lemon Peel Angels,Coral Polyps and Mushrooms.
Some places say LPAs are reef safe, some say they may nip at soft corals.
Does anyone have an opinion on this through direct observation? If they do
"nip" mushrooms, do they eat the whole `shroom, or just take chunks out? And
if they do take chunks out, do the corals regenerate?
Due to my tank size I was thinking of the Lemon Peel as an alternative to
Yellow Tangs. I have also heard that the Tangs are more succeptable to
parasites.

Thanks again................


Well do you want the good news or the bad?

Good news not all LPA nip at soft corals/ mushrooms, bad news is that
one could start at any day. They are very unpredicatable. If they nip,
it will depend on how much they nip and how fast stuff grows in your
tank. If it nips very little and the corals/mushrooms grow fast you
will not have a problem, but if they are slow growers and the LPA nips a
lot you could end up loosing all of them.

Just as an example, different angel but. I friend of mine had a flame
angel in his 75 gallon reef tank. No problems at all for about 2 years.
Had some nice green frilly mushrooms that were growing like crazy for
2 years. Then they slowed down on growth, then the stopped growing,
then they started decreasing in numbers. Never saw flame angel eating
on them, but a powerhead cover failure (actually stupid mistake after
cleaning powerhead) ate the angel, mushrooms started coming back quickly.

Kim

StringerBell October 25th 06 01:30 AM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
Sigh........
I wonder if its worth a try.....

"kim gross" wrote in message
...

Well do you want the good news or the bad?

Good news not all LPA nip at soft corals/ mushrooms, bad news is that one
could start at any day. They are very unpredicatable. If they nip, it
will depend on how much they nip and how fast stuff grows in your tank.
If it nips very little and the corals/mushrooms grow fast you will not
have a problem, but if they are slow growers and the LPA nips a lot you
could end up loosing all of them.

Just as an example, different angel but. I friend of mine had a flame
angel in his 75 gallon reef tank. No problems at all for about 2 years.
Had some nice green frilly mushrooms that were growing like crazy for 2
years. Then they slowed down on growth, then the stopped growing, then
they started decreasing in numbers. Never saw flame angel eating on them,
but a powerhead cover failure (actually stupid mistake after cleaning
powerhead) ate the angel, mushrooms started coming back quickly.

Kim




George Patterson October 25th 06 04:06 AM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
StringerBell wrote:

I wonder if its worth a try.....


Depends .... What are you going to do if it fails?

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.

StringerBell October 25th 06 12:45 PM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:xwA%g.4620$hK.3324@trnddc02...
StringerBell wrote:

I wonder if its worth a try.....


Depends .... What are you going to do if it fails?

I would make sure I could "trade" the fish back before I bought it.
I would just go with a Yellow Tang--- but dont want to risk the disease
hassle. I want some yellow in there though. Maybe one of those little
gobies----but thats not quite the same as a Lemon Peel, eh?



Bryan October 25th 06 03:56 PM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
Suggestion:

I have cleaner shrimp and am still thinking about this yellow fish. I've
seen them in the tank with shrimp and all was fine. They are the most
peaceful of the hogfish and much prettier than this pic.

http://www.peteducation.com/article....articleid=2761

Bryan



"StringerBell" wrote in message
...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:xwA%g.4620$hK.3324@trnddc02...
StringerBell wrote:

I wonder if its worth a try.....


Depends .... What are you going to do if it fails?

I would make sure I could "trade" the fish back before I bought it.
I would just go with a Yellow Tang--- but dont want to risk the disease
hassle. I want some yellow in there though. Maybe one of those little
gobies----but thats not quite the same as a Lemon Peel, eh?




Cindy October 26th 06 12:56 AM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
* StringerBell wrote, On 10/25/2006 6:45 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:xwA%g.4620$hK.3324@trnddc02...
StringerBell wrote:

Depends .... What are you going to do if it fails?

I would make sure I could "trade" the fish back before I bought it.
I would just go with a Yellow Tang--- but dont want to risk the disease
hassle. I want some yellow in there though. Maybe one of those little
gobies----but thats not quite the same as a Lemon Peel, eh?

citron gobies are cool. I personally never had a problem with my tang.

StringerBell October 26th 06 01:30 AM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 

"Cindy" wrote in message news:JQS%g.3046

citron gobies are cool. I personally never had a problem with my tang.


The more I read on the internet, it seems that Lemon Peels are pretty risky
overall. Not a good newbie fish.
I like those little Gobies too.... I`m gonna stock my 65 gallon with little
guys. I just wanted to have 1 or 2 medium size, bright colored free swimmers
to make the tank look nice from a distance. Earlier on I was thinking Yellow
Tang ---but Again, the dreaded internet info overload.After finding a dozen
places that say they are "Easy", I stumbled upon camps that suggest keeping
Tangs in anything smaller than 48", 75 Gallons is inhumane.(Ive got 36" 65
Gal.)
Ive also read that they prefer to be kept in groups. And that not meeting
these standards are the culprits that make them succeptable to parasites.
Do Y-Tangs ever show up as Juvies---real small, like Quarter size? I often
see the Hippo Tangs that small. I like those guys too---but they just have
that "I`m frail and gonna die in a heartbeat" look to them. If I found a
Yellow that small I guess I could keep it for a few years before having to
move it out.
Of course I also see posts all over the net about people keeping them in
40s,30s, even 20s.



Wayne Sallee October 26th 06 05:28 PM

Lemon Peel/Mushrooms
 
They do show up small, but tangs need to eat regularly,
and in the process of being kept at the fishermen's
stations, and then being kept at the wholesalers, and then
finally getting to the pet store, they tend to be quite
starved, and often don't hold up well. The medium sized
yellow tangs have more stored energy to live on.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



StringerBell wrote on 10/25/2006 8:30 PM:
"Cindy" wrote in message news:JQS%g.3046
citron gobies are cool. I personally never had a problem with my tang.


The more I read on the internet, it seems that Lemon Peels are pretty risky
overall. Not a good newbie fish.
I like those little Gobies too.... I`m gonna stock my 65 gallon with little
guys. I just wanted to have 1 or 2 medium size, bright colored free swimmers
to make the tank look nice from a distance. Earlier on I was thinking Yellow
Tang ---but Again, the dreaded internet info overload.After finding a dozen
places that say they are "Easy", I stumbled upon camps that suggest keeping
Tangs in anything smaller than 48", 75 Gallons is inhumane.(Ive got 36" 65
Gal.)
Ive also read that they prefer to be kept in groups. And that not meeting
these standards are the culprits that make them succeptable to parasites.
Do Y-Tangs ever show up as Juvies---real small, like Quarter size? I often
see the Hippo Tangs that small. I like those guys too---but they just have
that "I`m frail and gonna die in a heartbeat" look to them. If I found a
Yellow that small I guess I could keep it for a few years before having to
move it out.
Of course I also see posts all over the net about people keeping them in
40s,30s, even 20s.




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