Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

What size tank do you have?
Do you already have the canister filter?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



RubenD wrote on 10/26/2006 5:21 PM:
Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

Also a canister filter will not move as much water from
the sump to the tank, as it will move water from the tank
back to the tank.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 10/26/2006 5:30 PM:
What size tank do you have?
Do you already have the canister filter?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



RubenD wrote on 10/26/2006 5:21 PM:
Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G
tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

You need to make sure the pump will push water upwards to at least equal the
water flow rate coming downwards.

Several water pumps include a chart to show water flow going upwards at 3',
4' 8' etc. If you have a 1" hose going downwards you'll be able to move
about 600 gph. I have a over powered pump on mine but a "T" with two ball
valves so I can send exactly what flow I want upwards and the rest just back
in the sump for a 2nd spin.

I don't see the canister filter pump being a problem. Just watch the flow
rates. The filter might slow things down too much. If you aren't pushing
water upwards enough, your hang one overflow will a)make lots of noises
b)lose siphon c)both

Bryan
my T setup: http://www.geocities.com/bryg30/9180...building-1.jpg


"RubenD" wrote in message
et...
Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G
tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

It's 46G Bowfront tank. I'm currently using a canister filter.


"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
ink.net...
What size tank do you have?
Do you already have the canister filter?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



RubenD wrote on 10/26/2006 5:21 PM:
Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G
tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

Shouldn't be a flow balance with the overflow, since it will only be
sending down the exact amount of water that was send up by the canister?

Would a wider line going down do the job to balance the flow? I also have a
powerhead in my tank to keep circulation and help the filter do a better
job.

Ruben



"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You need to make sure the pump will push water upwards to at least equal
the
water flow rate coming downwards.

Several water pumps include a chart to show water flow going upwards at
3',
4' 8' etc. If you have a 1" hose going downwards you'll be able to move
about 600 gph. I have a over powered pump on mine but a "T" with two ball
valves so I can send exactly what flow I want upwards and the rest just
back
in the sump for a 2nd spin.

I don't see the canister filter pump being a problem. Just watch the flow
rates. The filter might slow things down too much. If you aren't pushing
water upwards enough, your hang one overflow will a)make lots of noises
b)lose siphon c)both

Bryan
my T setup: http://www.geocities.com/bryg30/9180...building-1.jpg


"RubenD" wrote in message
et...
Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G
tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

Bryan wrote on 10/26/2006 5:52 PM:
If you aren't pushing
water upwards enough, your hang one overflow will a)make lots of noises
b)lose siphon c)both


That's not too difficult to remedy.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

Can you fit a 20 gallon tank in there instead of a 10? a
20 gallon is 12.5 inches wide.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



RubenD wrote on 10/26/2006 6:27 PM:
It's 46G Bowfront tank. I'm currently using a canister filter.


"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
ink.net...
What size tank do you have?
Do you already have the canister filter?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



RubenD wrote on 10/26/2006 5:21 PM:
Everyone knows buying a sump kit gets very expensive. However, the
benefits are great, from increasing the water volume to hiding all the
equipment.

I was thinking on using a canister filter to pull the water from a 10G
tank
to the main tank and a hanging overflow to the 10G.

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?



Ruben

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

RubenD wrote on 10/26/2006 6:36 PM:
Shouldn't be a flow balance with the overflow, since it will only be
sending down the exact amount of water that was send up by the canister?

Would a wider line going down do the job to balance the flow?

Don't worry about that. Any problems in that area that
come up can be easily addressed.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Using a canister filter and an overflow for a sump?
 

RubenD wrote:

What do you think the drawbacks are if there's any?

Well, if I understand you correctly, you're going to have a 10 gallon tank on
the floor, the cannister syphon will be in the 10 gallon, and the cannister will
be pumping water up to the main tank. Cannister filters aren't really designed
to act as a pump, so I would check with the manufacturer to see how high a water
column yours can handle (in other words, how different can the height of the
intake and discharge tubes be).

Also keep in mind that the cannister filter will serve as a great syphon to pull
water out of your main tank if the power should fail. Make sure the discharge
tube is high enough in the main tank to prevent a disaster.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.