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JeffinMS December 5th 06 10:19 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 
One of my Black Mollys some time ago had some problems, like her back was
broken and she was swimming sideways and all around. Someone mentioned a
teaspoon full of salt, which I added and it did no good. It actually had
appeared her back was broken some way. I went on vacation over thanksgiving
and when I came back, she was gone. I decided to look and removed all the
possible hiding plaes in the tank and looked and the fish is no where to be
found, totally vanished. Our LFS owner told me that my Pleco, which is
pretty big now, about 8 inches, would start eating my other fish. Is this a
possibility/probability? The Pleco seems totally docile and hasnt messed
with any of the tetras or the clowns.



Köi-Lö December 5th 06 11:27 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 

"JeffinMS" wrote in message
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One of my Black Mollys some time ago had some problems, like her back was
broken and she was swimming sideways and all around. Someone mentioned a
teaspoon full of salt, which I added and it did no good. It actually had
appeared her back was broken some way. I went on vacation over
thanksgiving and when I came back, she was gone. I decided to look and
removed all the possible hiding plaes in the tank and looked and the fish
is no where to be found, totally vanished. Our LFS owner told me that my
Pleco, which is pretty big now, about 8 inches, would start eating my
other fish. Is this a possibility/probability? The Pleco seems totally
docile and hasnt messed with any of the tetras or the clowns.

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I've seen them rasp on dead fish. Some people have problems with them
rasping the slime coat off live fish. This can cause infections and the
death of their tankmates. It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
decomposed.
--
KL....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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JeffinMS December 5th 06 11:32 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 

"Köi-Lö" wrote in message
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It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
decomposed.
--


Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?



Köi-Lö December 6th 06 03:36 AM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 

"JeffinMS" wrote in message
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"Köi-Lö" wrote in message
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It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
decomposed.
--


Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?

============================
Yes as it releases ammonia and some diseases would also remain behind I was
told. If it's gone don't worry about it, or do an extra partial water
change of perhaps 50%.
--
KL....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*





nut December 6th 06 12:27 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 
Köi-Lö wrote:
"JeffinMS" wrote in message
...

"Köi-Lö" wrote in message
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It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
decomposed.
--


Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?

============================
Yes as it releases ammonia and some diseases would also remain behind
I was told. If it's gone don't worry about it, or do an extra
partial water change of perhaps 50%.


Jeffin didn't mention the size of his tank, nor what filtration is in place,
but i think a 50% water change for a missing molly is a little drastic!

"Broken back" is not a disease and cannot be transmitted to other fish... a
rotting fish is no worse than any other rotting food... with sufficient
filtration all that should happen is a slight rise in nitrates.



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Köi-Lö December 6th 06 03:55 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 

"nut" wrote in message
.. .
Köi-Lö wrote:
"JeffinMS" wrote in message
...

"Köi-Lö" wrote in message
...
It probably died, was nibbled on and quickly
decomposed.
--

Does this decomposition affect the tank negatively in any way?

============================
Yes as it releases ammonia and some diseases would also remain behind
I was told. If it's gone don't worry about it, or do an extra
partial water change of perhaps 50%.


Jeffin didn't mention the size of his tank, nor what filtration is in
place, but i think a 50% water change for a missing molly is a little
drastic!


It was just a suggestion.

"Broken back" is not a disease and cannot be transmitted to other fish...


But we can't know what else the fish suffered from or may have carried.

a
rotting fish is no worse than any other rotting food... with sufficient
filtration all that should happen is a slight rise in nitrates.


That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.

--
KL....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*



nut December 6th 06 07:33 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 
Köi-Lö wrote:


[missing/dead molly]

That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.


You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small tank with
poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to lose a molly
suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow for this.



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JeffinMS December 6th 06 08:34 PM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 

"nut" wrote in message
.. .
Köi-Lö wrote:


[missing/dead molly]

That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.


You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small tank
with poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to lose a molly
suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow for this.



Its a 20 Gallon. Containing a pretty large Pleco, 2 (was 3) mollys, a couple
of loaches, 2 swords, 4 tetras. Been going about a year and a half now.



nut December 7th 06 02:07 AM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 
JeffinMS wrote:
"nut" wrote in message
.. .
Köi-Lö wrote:


[missing/dead molly]

That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.


You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small
tank with poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to
lose a molly suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow
for this.


Its a 20 Gallon. Containing a pretty large Pleco, 2 (was 3) mollys, a
couple of loaches, 2 swords, 4 tetras. Been going about a year and a
half now.


Sounds ok to me... but what about filtration?

The thing with mollies is they like salt, and loaches hate it.






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JeffinMS December 7th 06 02:19 AM

Blacl Molly Completely Vanished
 

"nut" wrote in message
.. .
JeffinMS wrote:
"nut" wrote in message
.. .
Köi-Lö wrote:


[missing/dead molly]

That depends on the size of the dead fish and the size of the tank.

You are, of course, absolutely correct... a dead molly in a small
tank with poor filtration could cause a lot of problems... but to
lose a molly suggests that the tank is of sufficient size to allow
for this.


Its a 20 Gallon. Containing a pretty large Pleco, 2 (was 3) mollys, a
couple of loaches, 2 swords, 4 tetras. Been going about a year and a
half now.


Sounds ok to me... but what about filtration?

The thing with mollies is they like salt, and loaches hate it.





I only used salt that one time to try to treat the Molly. The Molly;s seem
to do pretty good without the salt, as do the other fish. They are a year
old now (Plus however old they were when I got them). Filtration is a 40 GPM
AquaClear.




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