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that *other* annoying little troll January 17th 07 03:33 PM

sliily confused clownfish
 
I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!


Tristan January 17th 07 03:44 PM

sliily confused clownfish
 
Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Cichlid-Mania January 18th 07 05:21 AM

sliily confused clownfish
 
Roy Tristan........SHUT THE HELL UP you clueless jerkoff troll! No
one cares about your flame war with disabled veterans and old ladies. take
it to email already.......... you go from group to group destroying them
with your toxic bull**** and negative vibes.

Too bad Roy Tristan Hauer your not hanging, like your buddy Jabbers Santana
contemplated doing in the suicide groups elling the depressed to kill
themselves. Now all the tweo of you do
is trash and make problems for any groups you all decide to hang out
in.

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to

swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food

to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim

though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster

is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't

put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.

She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my

pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to

host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting

with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




Wayne Sallee January 18th 07 06:50 PM

sliily confused clownfish
 
That's why frilly mushrooms are a good choice. They are
tuff, and can handle the abuse from the clowns, and they
don't move around like anemones.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Tristan wrote on 1/17/2007 10:44 AM:
Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!


RubenD January 18th 07 10:15 PM

sliily confused clownfish
 
I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but got
stinged and develop some black spots.

Finally they give up and the spots dissapear.

I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the
tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company.

BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either smaller
or larger to avoid fighting.

Ruben




"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
link.net...
That's why frilly mushrooms are a good choice. They are
tuff, and can handle the abuse from the clowns, and they
don't move around like anemones.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Tristan wrote on 1/17/2007 10:44 AM:
Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to

swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping

food to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim

though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster

is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't

put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does

this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.

She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my

pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to

host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting

with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




Add Homonym January 18th 07 10:51 PM

sliily confused clownfish
 
RubenD wrote:
I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but got
stinged and develop some black spots.

Finally they give up and the spots dissapear.

I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the
tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company.

BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either smaller
or larger to avoid fighting.

Ruben


If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
see a nasty fight.

Best bet is always add small ones.

Wayne Sallee January 18th 07 11:46 PM

sliily confused clownfish
 
Yep, the best is to add smaller.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Add Homonym wrote on 1/18/2007 5:51 PM:
RubenD wrote:
I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but
got
stinged and develop some black spots.

Finally they give up and the spots dissapear.

I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the
tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company.

BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either
smaller
or larger to avoid fighting.

Ruben


If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
see a nasty fight.

Best bet is always add small ones.


George Patterson January 19th 07 01:04 AM

sliily confused clownfish
 
Add Homonym wrote:

If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a
larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to
see a nasty fight.


No, you won't. The smaller will change sex, and that will be that.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

MarineLand January 19th 07 05:44 AM

sliily confused clownfish
 
Get back on your meds Roy Tristan before eveyone knows what you are. Your
alreay looking damn bad in the eyes of the public what with slandering old
women... disabled vets and whoremongering the honky tonks..........


"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to

swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food

to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim

though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster

is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't

put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.

She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my

pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to

host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting

with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




Shelly Sandstorm January 21st 07 07:49 AM

sliily confused clownfish
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
...

Roy Tristan advises poster to do something illegal.........

"Roy" Tristan wrote in message
...
Shotgun, 22 cal rifle, mean bad dog, rocks, and the best possible
method to take care of a heron or any other pest / predator problem is
to follow the triple S method.......Shoot, Shovel, Shutup about it.


Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I
have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia,
toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem
is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or
critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at
buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process,
so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time
he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge
yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather
dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his
wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal
nano cube......in someone elses house.

I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian
etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the
clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as
I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any.


On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian
feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to

swim
through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food

to it.

At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim

though
it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it.

If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster

is
attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't

put
your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone.

There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this
with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster.

She
never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways
(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my

pair
that does this - the male seems "skeptical"

Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to

host
with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting

with
ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!





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