curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

Hello;

I have a 210 gallon all-glass reef tank which was just how I wanted it and
nice and stable. Unfortunately is started leaking Sunday about 5 gallons/hour
out the bottom. I've transferred everything to a 125 fish only and set up a 75
for the corals, clams, some of the fish, etc which is crowded as hell but seems
stable for the moment. The tank is no longer warranteed so it looks like I'm
going to have to reseal the bottom with silicone. Having worked with this
before (like buillding a sump) I know it puts out those nasty vinegar fumes.
The temporary tank is very close to the one I need to reseal. Even with fans
and open windows I know it will really stink for awhile. My question is are
these fumes harmfull to the aquatic life in the temporary tank in the same room?

thanks;

Bob

(any suggestions for this repair appreciated)

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

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There would be a reward in it for you if yu can get CArol Gulley my victim
aka
Zebulon there and keep her sorry ass there until the cowes come home!
There would be a bonus if you could also snatch up her butthole buddy
Ed Alston. Then USENET would be pretty well troll and trouble free.


Hello;

I have a 210 gallon all-glass reef tank which was just how I wanted it
and
nice and stable. Unfortunately is started leaking Sunday about 5
gallons/hour
out the bottom. I've transferred everything to a 125 fish only and set up
a 75
for the corals, clams, some of the fish, etc which is crowded as hell but
seems
stable for the moment. The tank is no longer warranteed so it looks like
I'm
going to have to reseal the bottom with silicone. Having worked with this
before (like buillding a sump) I know it puts out those nasty vinegar
fumes.
The temporary tank is very close to the one I need to reseal. Even with
fans
and open windows I know it will really stink for awhile. My question is
are
these fumes harmfull to the aquatic life in the temporary tank in the same
room?

thanks;

Bob

(any suggestions for this repair appreciated)

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

"Tristan" wrote:

wrote in message
m...

There would be a reward in it for you if yu can get CArol Gulley my victim
aka
Zebulon there and keep her sorry ass there until the cowes come home!
There would be a bonus if you could also snatch up her butthole buddy
Ed Alston. Then USENET would be pretty well troll and trouble free.



My reward is the knowledge that you are condemend to go through life
being yourself. I can't think of any retribution or punishment for your inance
trolling that would be worse then that. And if you must hit hit us with these
clever witty troll notes try learning how to get past 2nd grade grammar. It
will make "yu" so much more respectable.

Bob

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

Unfortuneately uyou replied to the trollpretending to be me.....I use
motzarella not a bellsouth account which is no one other than Carol
Gulley. So, with that out of the way resealing the tank is not all
that hard of a job as it is labor intense in cleaning it up to the
point you feel good that new silicone will adhere. That means cutting
out all internal silicone seals and fillets on all four sides and
bottom panel. No way around it. You can do it now and do it right or
do it again later if yiuy do not renew all internal silicone. Silicone
does not stick well at all to old silicone even silicone just cured is
not a good base to try and stick new silicone to.

Anyway use a new single edge razor blade and cut all internally
applied silicone out of tank, then use anothe rblade and scrape the
areas very well, I usually go over these cleaned areas two or three
times with a good razor blade.

Then use acetone (cheap to buy but make sure its pure 100% acetone
which is clear) and use a green or rred scotch brite pad or even a
paper towel and wipe and scrub the newly cleaned areas well. Allow to
evaporate and then rub again with plain dry paper towel to remove any
cloudyness.

YOur now ready to re-apply new silicone. However a silicone job can be
a mess or it canbe made tolook good, and since running a continuous
bead of uniform width is not somethng done by everyone on a daily
basis, I always run a strip of masking tape along the panels to sort
of outline where the silicone is to be applied to, and then when I use
my finer dampened in water to smooth it out if necessary its pushed
into a uniform air bubble free fillet between the panels of glass.
Once silicone starts to setup and skin over you can remove the masking
tape and you have a relatively nice straight edge of silicone showing.
If the sides are not done, odds are water will starat to infiltrate
between new and old silicone and your destined to get a leak, thats
why its best to do allionternal joints over if yur resealing a tank
even for just a small leak. There is various books on resealing tanks
as well as websites and all of them also recomened removing " all "
old sealant first from all corners then reseal.

At least on a larger tank like a 210 you have room to work and manuver
a caulking gun, unfortunately there is a lot more silicone to remove
and reapply in a large tank. I hang a light bulb in the tank (25 or
40 watter will do, and I also add a cup or saucer with water in it as
well. Humidity actually helps silicone set up faster and this water
does not hinder its sealing capacity. As long as you smell the acetic
acid (vinegar smell) there is still silicone in there that is not
fully cured.....

Lots of luck, its not hard, just time consuming. This link may shed
some more light on the subject.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/aqrepairfaqs.htm

Regards
The real Tristan

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:35:52 -0600, wrote:


Hello;

I have a 210 gallon all-glass reef tank which was just how I wanted it and
nice and stable. Unfortunately is started leaking Sunday about 5 gallons/hour
out the bottom. I've transferred everything to a 125 fish only and set up a 75
for the corals, clams, some of the fish, etc which is crowded as hell but seems
stable for the moment. The tank is no longer warranteed so it looks like I'm
going to have to reseal the bottom with silicone. Having worked with this
before (like buillding a sump) I know it puts out those nasty vinegar fumes.
The temporary tank is very close to the one I need to reseal. Even with fans
and open windows I know it will really stink for awhile. My question is are
these fumes harmfull to the aquatic life in the temporary tank in the same room?

thanks;

Bob

(any suggestions for this repair appreciated)



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

wrote in message
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"Tristan" wrote:

wrote in message
om...

There would be a reward in it for you if yu can get CArol Gulley my
victim
aka
Zebulon there and keep her sorry ass there until the cowes come home!
There would be a bonus if you could also snatch up her butthole buddy
Ed Alston. Then USENET would be pretty well troll and trouble free.



My reward is the knowledge that you are condemend to go through life
being yourself. I can't think of any retribution or punishment for your
inance
trolling that would be worse then that. And if you must hit hit us with
these
clever witty troll notes try learning how to get past 2nd grade grammar.
It
will make "yu" so much more respectable.

Tristan has no education beyond grade school making him feel very inferior
to others, especially those he victimizes. To make up for his lack of
education and to build his self esteem he trolls, net stalks and harasses
others he feels are superior to himself. Look what he did to rec.ponds and a
few of the other aquaria groups using several types of anonymous remailers
and Hipcrime's NewsAgent. Eventually all these groups will have to be
moderated to avoid his escapades.


Bob

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

"Tristan" wrote in message
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Unfortuneately uyou replied to the trollpretending to be me.....I use
motzarella not a bellsouth account which is no one other than Carol
Gulley. ........... SNIP RANT!

Everyone is not your latest victims Carol, Gail, Ed etc. You need to stop
trolling and destroying other newsgroups to feed your ego and build your low
self esteem. You need to get back to the VA hospital where they can help
you overcome your warped obsessions with these innocent people you're
victimizing Roy Tristan Hauer. Slandering others and net stalking them from
one NG to another isn't making you a hero in anyone's eyes but your own.

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

"Zëbulon" wrote in message
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"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Unfortuneately uyou replied to the trollpretending to be me.....I use
motzarella not a bellsouth account which is no one other than Carol
Gulley. ........... SNIP RANT!

Everyone is not your latest victims Carol, Gail, Ed etc. You need to stop
trolling and destroying other newsgroups to feed your ego and build your
low self esteem. You need to get back to the VA hospital where they can
help you overcome your warped obsessions with these innocent people you're
victimizing Roy Tristan Hauer. Slandering others and net stalking them
from one NG to another isn't making you a hero in anyone's eyes but your
own.

Getting him to go back to the VA hospital is one thing. Getting him to stay
on his meds is another.

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

"Kliedascope" wrote:

"Zëbulon" wrote in message
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"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Unfortuneately uyou replied to the trollpretending to be me.....I use
motzarella not a bellsouth account which is no one other than Carol
Gulley. ........... SNIP RANT!

Everyone is not your latest victims Carol, Gail, Ed etc. You need to stop
trolling and destroying other newsgroups to feed your ego and build your
low self esteem. You need to get back to the VA hospital where they can
help you overcome your warped obsessions with these innocent people you're
victimizing Roy Tristan Hauer. Slandering others and net stalking them
from one NG to another isn't making you a hero in anyone's eyes but your
own.

Getting him to go back to the VA hospital is one thing. Getting him to stay
on his meds is another.



Thanks for the several replies that have been helpfull although I'm still
trying to find out about the biggie. I have a temporary 75 gallon reef tank
overcrowded with corals and clams sitting about two feet from a tank I'm going
to have to totally reseal which according to my math is around a line of
silicone selant 28 feet long that will have to be laid down, smoothed out and
cured all at the same time. Are the fumes from all this farmfull to the smaller
tank. I'm going to ventilate the hell out of the room but even so it's going
to be pretty pungeant. Just want to know if I need to move the tank I'm
resealing.

thanks;

Bob

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

curing silicone sealant fumes harmfull to fish?
 

The fumes or smell may be objectionable to you , but its ot gonna do
anyhtng to a tank that is nearby........The smell you smell is no
more than what would be found in a big vat of pickles or
juice.......its acetic acid not harmfull as much as it is
objectionable, and to the tank, not a concern.....Of course moving
tank out of room etc would be better but not a necessity..

Even with a tarp over it, you'll still let the accumulated fumes /
smell out when you remove the tarp, but you would only smell it short
time not the entire duratin of cure.....You could also cover over the
top with a piece of plastic sheeting or large plastic bags and
masking tape to keep in the smell until its fully cured.


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