Krib breeding questions removal of fry, when?
 

I've gotten lucky with 2 of my kribs, they're doing quite well... except I
think I jumped the gun, and may be putting my babies at risk without knowing
it...

on their second batch, it was larger, and they became free swimming a bit
earlier than the previous batch, and I was increasingly worried that they'd
be picked off, like the first batch, only 5 made it. This batch, I've got
12, but when I seperated them to the breeder net, the female became hugely
disoriented, angry toward the net, and would hang out just below the babies
in the net... The male, became increasingly hostile toward her, and he still
guards the pot and I'm not sure if he thinks they're still there, or if
there is some 'other' reason I'm unaware of....

So my questions are, and no in this particular order....

1. when is the right time to seperate the mother and fry?
2. do the fry inherit a learned behaviour from the mother, like eating
habits and times?
3. why does the male display such hostility now, and not before... before
she ate his tail off for some odd reason, but this time, they're both ok,
but he's become hostile... why?

Ok, that's enough for now, just trying to get some understanding on a few
points... Thanks.

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Krib breeding questions removal of fry, when?
 

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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
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I've gotten lucky with 2 of my kribs, they're doing quite well... except I
think I jumped the gun, and may be putting my babies at risk without
knowing
it...

on their second batch, it was larger, and they became free swimming a bit
earlier than the previous batch, and I was increasingly worried that
they'd
be picked off, like the first batch, only 5 made it. This batch, I've got
12, but when I seperated them to the breeder net, the female became hugely
disoriented, angry toward the net, and would hang out just below the
babies
in the net... The male, became increasingly hostile toward her, and he
still
guards the pot and I'm not sure if he thinks they're still there, or if
there is some 'other' reason I'm unaware of....

So my questions are, and no in this particular order....

1. when is the right time to seperate the mother and fry?

you don't. Leave both parents with the fry . They are normally excellent
parents. In the case of one starting to eat the fry, usually the male, then
remove the male and the feamle should continue to guard the fry.


2. do the fry inherit a learned behaviour from the mother, like eating
habits and times?
you determine the eating habits and times they eat. Fish will eat anytime.
The behaviour they inherit is the same with any animal, breeding, caring for
young etc etc.


3. why does the male display such hostility now, and not before... before
she ate his tail off for some odd reason, but this time, they're both ok,
but he's become hostile... why?

do you have any dither fish in the tank with the Kribs. The feamle guards
the nest and swims about the tank with the fry following her around. The
male's job is to protect the female and the fry from any predators. If no
predators are present then the male having nothing to do can and will turn
against the female and the fry.


Ok, that's enough for now, just trying to get some understanding on a few
points... Thanks.


I had similar problems breeding Rainbow Cichlids. They would spawn, the eggs
would hatch and the parents would eat the fry. This happened over and over.
I moved the pair into a larger tank with some Tetras and livebearers as
dither fish and bingo. They spawned, protected the fry and the male was kept
busy guarding.

Rick

Krib breeding questions removal of fry, when?
 

"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
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1. when is the right time to seperate the mother and fry?

Just so I'm getting this straight, you're separating the Fry and mother, not
the fry from the mother? These 2 should always be kept together. Possibly
the male too, was he the one eating the fry? As you know Cichlids are good
parents and both of them should be involved in the raising of the fry.
To answer your question, if you plan to breed them then don't let them spawn
in the main tank, this is very stressful for both yourself and especially
the fish. They should be separated into a small breeding tank of their own
beforhand and conditioned into breeding. This yields high survival rates and
is much more enjoyable, keep the parents together until the male begins
harassing her or the fry again (this should be a few weeks). The female can
be placed into the main tank again once the fry have grown up a little.

2. do the fry inherit a learned behaviour from the mother, like eating
habits and times?

Possibly, but instinct is key and the need to survive is strong in the
little fellas, have some faith and let nature take its course. Let them get
used to seeing you and recognising food :)

3. why does the male display such hostility now, and not before... before
she ate his tail off for some odd reason, but this time, they're both ok,
but he's become hostile... why?

Possibly he is ready for another shagging and she is not ;o


Ok, that's enough for now, just trying to get some understanding on a few
points... Thanks.

One more thing, make sure the filter in the breeding tank is not sucking up
the fry, either cover up the inlet holes with old pantyhose or get a bubble
type filter.

Krib breeding questions removal of fry, when?
 

Mate I kept mine with thier folks till they were being chased away by them.
They kept many mollies and platys at bay for a long time
then I put the babies in a bigger tank to grow them out.