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fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
Hi,
My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35 litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she thinks she has done everything correct. The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface. They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem pretty active. Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself. The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc). So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much. Sorry if this is a really stupid question. Regards, Scott |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
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it isnt normal. However, keeping goldfish requires around 40 liters per goldfish, a minimum of 80 liters, for 2 goldfish. they need good filtration, aeration, and a heater to keep the tank temp constant. GF are not cold water fish. they like it warm. the mouthing is probably due to a lack of oxygen. Ingrid "scott" wrote: Hi, My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35 litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she thinks she has done everything correct. The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface. They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem pretty active. Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself. The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc). So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much. Sorry if this is a really stupid question. Regards, Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
Lack of oxygen or even ammonia in the water will often get your fish gasping
near the surface. Myself I would hazzard a guess that your water contains too much nitrite. This enters the fish and poisons it. I imagine the tank is about due for a nitrite spike. Please google the phrase 'new tank syndrome' to see what your dealing with here. "scott" wrote in message oups.com... Hi, My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35 litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she thinks she has done everything correct. The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface. They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem pretty active. Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself. The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc). So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much. Sorry if this is a really stupid question. Regards, Scott |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
On 4 Apr, 07:19, "swarvegorilla" wrote:
Lack of oxygen or even ammonia in the water will often get your fish gasping near the surface. Myself I would hazzard a guess that your water contains too much nitrite. This enters the fish and poisons it. I imagine the tank is about due for a nitrite spike. Please google the phrase 'new tank syndrome' to see what your dealing with here. "scott" wrote in message oups.com... Hi, My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35 litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she thinks she has done everything correct. The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface. They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem pretty active. Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself. The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc). So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much. Sorry if this is a really stupid question. Regards, Scott- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi, The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though. Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats possible, ie another chemical??) TIA Scott |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
"scott" wrote in message oups.com... The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though. Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats possible, ie another chemical??) ========================== When cycling a new tank I don't bother the filter or gravel unless there is uneaten food sitting there turning into ammonia. But that doesn't happen anymore since I feed very, very lightly while a tank cycles. I keep doing partial water changes faithfully though so the fish don't sicken or suffer. -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Zone 6. Middle TN USA ISP: Hughes.net ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
yes, dont clean the sponge right now. there is biospira trade name for bacteria that
is added to the water to help colonize the filter. you can add chemicals that will bind to the ammonia. forget the name. Ingrid "scott" wrote: The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though. Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats possible, ie another chemical??) TIA Scott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:30:15 GMT, wrote:
yes, dont clean the sponge right now. there is biospira trade name for bacteria that is added to the water to help colonize the filter. you can add chemicals that will bind to the ammonia. forget the name. Ingrid ChlorAm-X or Amquel are a couple brand names to bind ammonia, yet still provide it for the bacteria to grow on. Use salt to detox the nitrite. Easy on the water changes, not too much or you'll defeat the cycle. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
hey hjey..look, its one of the CArol Gulley hate forum members tip
toeing outside her protected moderated environment....Nice to see the outside world huh Jan? Sure smells better outside that room full of assmongers I bet! Next time don;t stay away so long.....What happened to your co-hort Gill, looks like she flew the coop big time for damage control huh? Unlike you I guess you do not have any morals to worry about then huh? On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:32:19 GMT, ~ jan wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:30:15 GMT, wrote: yes, dont clean the sponge right now. there is biospira trade name for bacteria that is added to the water to help colonize the filter. you can add chemicals that will bind to the ammonia. forget the name. Ingrid ChlorAm-X or Amquel are a couple brand names to bind ammonia, yet still provide it for the bacteria to grow on. Use salt to detox the nitrite. Easy on the water changes, not too much or you'll defeat the cycle. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know! |
fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
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fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal
"scott" wrote in message oups.com... On 4 Apr, 07:19, "swarvegorilla" wrote: Lack of oxygen or even ammonia in the water will often get your fish gasping near the surface. Myself I would hazzard a guess that your water contains too much nitrite. This enters the fish and poisons it. I imagine the tank is about due for a nitrite spike. Please google the phrase 'new tank syndrome' to see what your dealing with here. "scott" wrote in message oups.com... Hi, My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35 litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she thinks she has done everything correct. The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface. They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem pretty active. Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself. The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc). So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much. Sorry if this is a really stupid question. Regards, Scott- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi, The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though. Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats possible, ie another chemical??) TIA Scott DO you know someone with a setup aquarium? If you do and there tank is healthy try and grab some filter material from their filter (sponge etc) and attach it too your filter (slot it in or elastic band it to it) This act of 'seeding' a tank with bacteria from another tank is by far the quickest way to cycle a tank. I try grab a bit of water, bit of gravle (or sand) and a bit of filter gunk. That way ya get 3 types of organism to process your fish waste. This first month is as hard as fishkeeping usually gets. make it thru the cycle and its alll easy! |
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