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Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

Peppermint are known t eat it but like th coipper band there is n
guarantee. Give aip long enough and eventually you risk your tank
getting over run with them....nuke it now or take your changes. And by
the way you do not inject them with Joes Joice you merely squirt the
milky white crap over them and it does the trick, as does lemon juice
or kalk wasser....lemon juice is best injected.

Odds are if yu do nt feed any food to yur critters that copper band
will get hungry enough to eat the aip. Why eat crap like aip when
better stuff is handed to them.Its the only way I can get peppermints
to eat aip or emeral crabs to eat bubble algae and the same with m,ost
any critter......if it gets hungry enough it will eat the
undesireables. OR pull your ocrals and other critter osut and turn
that tank into a tank of undesireables, and throw all your
undesireable crap init like manjano';s bristle worms, mantis shrimp or
rogue hermits etc. Let it run rampant, do not worry about water
changes on a scheduled basis, and even an odd damsel or two does good
in it. Yu would be surprised how meat looking such a tank and how
diverse such a tank can get...I personally would not be caught with
out a "undesireables tank" and I prefer to look at my undesireables
than most of my other tanks.......
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:45:16 -0400, "StringerBell"
wrote:

Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Peppermint shrimp are supposed to eat aiptasia. The problem is sometimes
there are tastier foods in the tank.

I have one aiptasia, inside a cave on the unreachable bottom of the tank.
Still deciding between the copperband which might not work and the shrimp
who eventually will be eaten by my large sweetlips.

Tough call.

I'm wondering if I could use a power head and a hose to vaccum the aiptasia
out......

Good luck,

Ruben

"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

Stringer,

To be honest I was pretty lazy about my aiptasia when I first saw a couple.
I did try to stab one a few times and that one disappeared. Later another
showed up and I was able to reach it and get it too. But that other one I
couldn't get to and never really cared.

6 months later I'm being bombarded with them. I kid you not that they are
everywhere. I have zoos that have a hole in the middle of the colony
because the glass anemone popped up in the middle. Aiptasia are good for
eating phosphates from your tank but I promise that if you ignore it they
will multiply slowly at first then go absolutely nuts. I probably have
around 50 that I can see in my 90g. Two of them are huge! They big ones
look neat. I have touched them and they don't sting at all but the fish try
to swim around them and, as I said, polyps don't want near them either.

Funny, the timing of your email. Just yesterday I ordered 4 berghi
nudibranch from www.saltyunderground.com. They come in tomorrow morning.
These guys are guaranteed predators of the aiptasia. It wasn't cheap but it
was my only hope of stopping this epidemic. Maybe while I'm acclamating
them tomorrow I'll get some pics of the aiptasia outbreak.

If you'd rather nature take care of it use the berghia. But remember that
once berghia eat all the aiptasia, they will starve to death. Or, do like I
did, learn from experience but you'll have to pay a bit more $$ later to fix
it.

Good luck,
Bryan

"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

So you call the aiptasia names? show it pictures of better looking
anemones? :)

Hey Wayne, last week my digitada started changing back to the orange color
it's supposed to be. (You may remember my thread a couple months back.) But
last week a bought some pulsating xenias, 3 small patches on a small rock,
and they aren't making it. I'll save this for another thread, another
time.

Bryan

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
link.net...
The trick to getting the copper banded butterfly to eat the aiptasia, is
to pester the aiptasia, and torture the aiptasia. This will get the coper
banded butterfly interested and it will start eating them.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

StringerBell wrote on 5/23/2007 3:45 PM:
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

i suggest you go with the shrimp. I have tried joe's juice twice. both
times it killed em off but in no time at all they were back. they seemed to
be seeding from one rock but now theyre on nearly every rock.
i think in my case the shrimp would keep them under control for longer.
HTH
Robin

On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:03:13 -0500, "B" wrote:

Stringer,

To be honest I was pretty lazy about my aiptasia when I first saw a couple.
I did try to stab one a few times and that one disappeared. Later another
showed up and I was able to reach it and get it too. But that other one I
couldn't get to and never really cared.

6 months later I'm being bombarded with them. I kid you not that they are
everywhere. I have zoos that have a hole in the middle of the colony
because the glass anemone popped up in the middle. Aiptasia are good for
eating phosphates from your tank but I promise that if you ignore it they
will multiply slowly at first then go absolutely nuts. I probably have
around 50 that I can see in my 90g. Two of them are huge! They big ones
look neat. I have touched them and they don't sting at all but the fish try
to swim around them and, as I said, polyps don't want near them either.

Funny, the timing of your email. Just yesterday I ordered 4 berghi
nudibranch from www.saltyunderground.com. They come in tomorrow morning.
These guys are guaranteed predators of the aiptasia. It wasn't cheap but it
was my only hope of stopping this epidemic. Maybe while I'm acclamating
them tomorrow I'll get some pics of the aiptasia outbreak.

If you'd rather nature take care of it use the berghia. But remember that
once berghia eat all the aiptasia, they will starve to death. Or, do like I
did, learn from experience but you'll have to pay a bit more $$ later to fix
it.

Bergias are so very cool, I have been keeping them in a species
specific tank for some time now. I must be on the 12th generation at
least.

For some reason, they will never finish off all the aptasias in a reef
tank though. I swear they commit suicide so the babies will have food,
but if a ton of very tiny aptasias aren't present, they won't make it
anyway starting the next aptasia cycle.

Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful. ;)

Here are some pictures of them if you care.

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...a_stephanieae/

Here are the four originals. They and their subsequent babies have
eaten about 30 pounds of aptasia at this point. I have kept the
population down to two breeding pairs at all times, and about two
months ago I lost all the adults and luckily hatched four and am back
in full swing now.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...pagen umber=1

If I didn't have a steady supply of wild aptasia I would have lost
them some time ago!! They are fun to watch, but I use peppermint
shrimp for aptasia control in the tanks.

"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,

On Sat, 26 May 2007 23:56:05 -0400, kryppy@. wrote:
snip a bunch of assumptions:

Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful. ;)

Your assuming a lot here are you not. Perhaps its time to rewrite all
the books on the subject, since you seem to be so cock sure.

snip some more crap

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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

On May 26, 10:56 pm, kryppy@. wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2007 23:03:13 -0500, "B" wrote:
Stringer,

To be honest I was pretty lazy about my aiptasia when I first saw a couple.
I did try to stab one a few times and that one disappeared. Later another
showed up and I was able to reach it and get it too. But that other one I
couldn't get to and never really cared.

6 months later I'm being bombarded with them. I kid you not that they are
everywhere. I have zoos that have a hole in the middle of the colony
because the glass anemone popped up in the middle. Aiptasia are good for
eating phosphates from your tank but I promise that if you ignore it they
will multiply slowly at first then go absolutely nuts. I probably have
around 50 that I can see in my 90g. Two of them are huge! They big ones
look neat. I have touched them and they don't sting at all but the fish try
to swim around them and, as I said, polyps don't want near them either.

Funny, the timing of your email. Just yesterday I ordered 4 berghi
nudibranch fromwww.saltyunderground.com. They come in tomorrow morning.
These guys are guaranteed predators of the aiptasia. It wasn't cheap but it
was my only hope of stopping this epidemic. Maybe while I'm acclamating
them tomorrow I'll get some pics of the aiptasia outbreak.

If you'd rather nature take care of it use the berghia. But remember that
once berghia eat all the aiptasia, they will starve to death. Or, do like I
did, learn from experience but you'll have to pay a bit more $$ later to fix
it.

Bergias are so very cool, I have been keeping them in a species
specific tank for some time now. I must be on the 12th generation at
least.

For some reason, they will never finish off all the aptasias in a reef
tank though. I swear they commit suicide so the babies will have food,
but if a ton of very tiny aptasias aren't present, they won't make it
anyway starting the nextaptasiacycle.

Peppermint shrimp from the keys are always 100% successful. ;)

Here are some pictures of them if you care.

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...a_stephanieae/

Here are the four originals. They and their subsequent babies have
eaten about 30 pounds ofaptasiaat this point. I have kept the
population down to two breeding pairs at all times, and about two
months ago I lost all the adults and luckily hatched four and am back
in full swing now.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...eadid=962243&p...

If I didn't have a steady supply of wildaptasiaI would have lost
them some time ago!! They are fun to watch, but I use peppermint
shrimp foraptasiacontrol in the tanks.

"StringerBell" wrote in message
...
Hey people,

I went out and got the Joes Juice--- But I just cant bring myself to stab
these suckers. I realize we are playing G*D with a host of organisms on a
regular basis----but this is`nt detached like just pouring in some
additive.
How bad can the Apistasia thing get?
Is there a more passive way of getting rid of these critters?
Maybe a natural predator?
My Copperband never took a bite,- Hide quoted text -

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Berghia are a great solution to aiptasia problems in the right tanks
where they are a good fit. We've heard plenty of feedback that berghia
have solved people's aiptasia problems.

We've also heard a ton of feedback that Joe's Juice made their
aiptasia problems worse. So our advice is to siphon away any aiptasia
on which you apply Joe's Juice. Any of the pieces of aiptasia that
break off the aiptasia you put the juice on can make new aiptasia. The
foot of the aiptasia, if not destroyed, can regrow as well.

Peppermints are hit and miss. They must be the right kind of
peppermint (most stores don't really know what they have), they prefer
to eat fish food and they typically eat only the smaller aiptasia
assuming you have the right species of shrimp.

Copperbanded butterflyfish are hard to acclimate. It's not unusual for
people to try two or three before they get one to live for more than a
week. If the fish lives, it's a crap shoot as to if they will eat
aiptasia.

If you are considering berghia, don't get peppermint shrimp. They are
predators.