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ITGuy June 5th 07 12:41 AM

first time using skimmer
 
I bought a new skimmer and this is my first time ever using one.

It is a hang on the tank type and is rated for 180 gallons, but I have it on
an already established 30 gallon tank. Reason I got it so big is I plan on
setting up a 55 gallon in the near future.

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

Am I doing anything wrong, or have I just not had it set up long enough.
This is the first day its in operation.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.



Pondmeister June 5th 07 01:17 AM

first time using skimmer
 


Best way t pps check a skimmer is to allow to read
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs, and soon with allthe **** Wayne Sallee and
Pszemol puts ut its bound to start putting crap in the collection cup.
You can always **** in the tank too. That also gets a good foam going.
Of course, if you have loose sloppy runs that would really work better
than a hard turd would. now if you had a big tank you could always
have fish tank sex, that for sure would get that "protein" skimmer
cooking off!

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:41:29 -0500, "ITGuy" wrote:

I bought a new skimmer and this is my first time ever using one.

It is a hang on the tank type and is rated for 180 gallons, but I have it on
an already established 30 gallon tank. Reason I got it so big is I plan on
setting up a 55 gallon in the near future.

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

Am I doing anything wrong, or have I just not had it set up long enough.
This is the first day its in operation.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

George Patterson June 5th 07 03:20 AM

first time using skimmer
 
ITGuy wrote:

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.


Skimmers don't work that way; at least, you hope they don't pull out crap you
have to stir up.

Skimmers remove suspended proteins from the water. These are usually invisible,
but some can be seen as sort of an oily film on the surface. If you don't have
decay products, such as dead fish, uneaten food, or fish urine and feces, there
isn't anything for the skimmer to remove.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.

ITGuy June 5th 07 03:28 AM

first time using skimmer
 
Nothing worse than someone who has nothing better to do.

"Pondmeister" wrote in message
...


Best way t pps check a skimmer is to allow to read
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs, and soon with allthe **** Wayne Sallee and
Pszemol puts ut its bound to start putting crap in the collection cup.
You can always **** in the tank too. That also gets a good foam going.
Of course, if you have loose sloppy runs that would really work better
than a hard turd would. now if you had a big tank you could always
have fish tank sex, that for sure would get that "protein" skimmer
cooking off!

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:41:29 -0500, "ITGuy" wrote:

I bought a new skimmer and this is my first time ever using one.

It is a hang on the tank type and is rated for 180 gallons, but I have
it on
an already established 30 gallon tank. Reason I got it so big is I
plan on
setting up a 55 gallon in the near future.

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But
no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in
my
tank.

Am I doing anything wrong, or have I just not had it set up long
enough.
This is the first day its in operation.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the
tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




ITGuy June 5th 07 05:17 AM

first time using skimmer
 
Well here is what is happening. The videos I see of skimmers show a frothy
foam boiling over into the collection cup.

Right now all I have is bubbly water, no foam or froth. When I adjust the
air inlet valve, where should the top of the bubbling water be? down in the
tube, or up top about ready to boil over?

The instructions weren't too clear and I have no idea what I should be
seeing in the very first day of operation.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:CL39i.7933$V01.78@trnddc02...
ITGuy wrote:

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.


Skimmers don't work that way; at least, you hope they don't pull out crap
you have to stir up.

Skimmers remove suspended proteins from the water. These are usually
invisible, but some can be seen as sort of an oily film on the surface. If
you don't have decay products, such as dead fish, uneaten food, or fish
urine and feces, there isn't anything for the skimmer to remove.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.




Wayne Sallee June 5th 07 12:44 PM

first time using skimmer
 
Yea you will want to put him in your kill file. He
is a troll.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


ITGuy wrote on 6/4/2007 10:28 PM:
Nothing worse than someone who has nothing better to do.

"Pondmeister" wrote in message
...

Best way t pps check a skimmer is to allow to read
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs, and soon with allthe **** Wayne Sallee and
Pszemol puts ut its bound to start putting crap in the collection cup.
You can always **** in the tank too. That also gets a good foam going.
Of course, if you have loose sloppy runs that would really work better
than a hard turd would. now if you had a big tank you could always
have fish tank sex, that for sure would get that "protein" skimmer
cooking off!

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:41:29 -0500, "ITGuy" wrote:

I bought a new skimmer and this is my first time ever using one.

It is a hang on the tank type and is rated for 180 gallons, but I have
it on
an already established 30 gallon tank. Reason I got it so big is I
plan on
setting up a 55 gallon in the near future.

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But
no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in
my
tank.

Am I doing anything wrong, or have I just not had it set up long
enough.
This is the first day its in operation.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the
tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




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Wayne Sallee June 5th 07 12:47 PM

first time using skimmer
 
It depends some on the model of the skimmer, It will
take some getting used to, and it will depend on how
wet you want the skimmate. Also every time you put
your hand in the water, the oils from your body will
pop the foam, and cause it to not function properly
for a while. Also it takes a few days for the new
plastic of the skimmer to break in.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


ITGuy wrote on 6/5/2007 12:17 AM:
Well here is what is happening. The videos I see of skimmers show a frothy
foam boiling over into the collection cup.

Right now all I have is bubbly water, no foam or froth. When I adjust the
air inlet valve, where should the top of the bubbling water be? down in the
tube, or up top about ready to boil over?

The instructions weren't too clear and I have no idea what I should be
seeing in the very first day of operation.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:CL39i.7933$V01.78@trnddc02...
ITGuy wrote:

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.

Skimmers don't work that way; at least, you hope they don't pull out crap
you have to stir up.

Skimmers remove suspended proteins from the water. These are usually
invisible, but some can be seen as sort of an oily film on the surface. If
you don't have decay products, such as dead fish, uneaten food, or fish
urine and feces, there isn't anything for the skimmer to remove.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com


Wayne Sallee June 5th 07 01:08 PM

first time using skimmer
 
Yea you will want to put him in your kill file. He
is a troll.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


ITGuy wrote on 6/4/2007 10:28 PM:
Nothing worse than someone who has nothing better to do.

"Pondmeister" wrote in message
...

Best way t pps check a skimmer is to allow to read
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs, and soon with allthe **** Wayne Sallee and
Pszemol puts ut its bound to start putting crap in the collection cup.
You can always **** in the tank too. That also gets a good foam going.
Of course, if you have loose sloppy runs that would really work better
than a hard turd would. now if you had a big tank you could always
have fish tank sex, that for sure would get that "protein" skimmer
cooking off!

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:41:29 -0500, "ITGuy" wrote:

I bought a new skimmer and this is my first time ever using one.

It is a hang on the tank type and is rated for 180 gallons, but I have
it on
an already established 30 gallon tank. Reason I got it so big is I
plan on
setting up a 55 gallon in the near future.

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But
no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in
my
tank.

Am I doing anything wrong, or have I just not had it set up long
enough.
This is the first day its in operation.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the
tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!




Wayne Sallee June 5th 07 01:09 PM

first time using skimmer
 
It depends some on the model of the skimmer, It will
take some getting used to, and it will depend on how
wet you want the skimmate. Also every time you put
your hand in the water, the oils from your body will
pop the foam, and cause it to not function properly
for a while. Also it takes a few days for the new
plastic of the skimmer to break in.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


ITGuy wrote on 6/5/2007 12:17 AM:
Well here is what is happening. The videos I see of skimmers show a frothy
foam boiling over into the collection cup.

Right now all I have is bubbly water, no foam or froth. When I adjust the
air inlet valve, where should the top of the bubbling water be? down in the
tube, or up top about ready to boil over?

The instructions weren't too clear and I have no idea what I should be
seeing in the very first day of operation.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:CL39i.7933$V01.78@trnddc02...
ITGuy wrote:

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.

Skimmers don't work that way; at least, you hope they don't pull out crap
you have to stir up.

Skimmers remove suspended proteins from the water. These are usually
invisible, but some can be seen as sort of an oily film on the surface. If
you don't have decay products, such as dead fish, uneaten food, or fish
urine and feces, there isn't anything for the skimmer to remove.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.




KurtG June 5th 07 01:29 PM

first time using skimmer
 

After I do a complete clean on my skimmer, it usually takes a day or two
to get any output. It will generate a nice white foam, but no output.

Just be patient. It's definitely a slow process, but you'll be amazed
what it does generate in a day or two.




ITGuy wrote:
I bought a new skimmer and this is my first time ever using one.

It is a hang on the tank type and is rated for 180 gallons, but I have it on
an already established 30 gallon tank. Reason I got it so big is I plan on
setting up a 55 gallon in the near future.

Anyway, it seems to operate...the column is filled with bubbles. But no
gunk is coming out and the return water puts lots of micro bubbles in my
tank.

Am I doing anything wrong, or have I just not had it set up long enough.
This is the first day its in operation.

I even stirred up the tank so that some of the crap rose up into the tank
hoping it would suck alot of it out.




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