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bobandcarole[_5_] July 8th 07 02:44 PM

Pedophilia: When Is a Difference a Disorder?
 
On Jul 6, 4:21?pm, (XXX) wrote:
Don Quixote wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
On Jul 5, 2:02?pm, Jennie wrote:
On 2 Jul, 02:18, (XXX) wrote:


Finally, a word about children. When a person with pedophilia
interacts with a child sexually, he has done wrong. He may, or may
not, have caused harm.
If a boy is desperate for sex, and at a certain age all young boys are
desperate for sex, it is surely wrong for his mother to refuse sexual
contact.


Jennie


I hope you are not a Parent.


Your (bobandcarole's) mistake in logic and judgment, is that you put too
much importance on others fitting in with your own values and culture
(i.e. those of the Politically Correct Majority). For example, on
another thread you stated that a particular adult child sexual
relationship was "Wrong", while in fact it is only wrong if one of the
two participants then or later believe it was wrong. It is not
automatically wrong simply because it doesn't fit into your view of
"Normal".


If instead your argument was "there will surly be major problems that
can best be avoided by not ever having such a relationship" then you
might have a defendable position, and we could have a reasonable
discussion as to the potential problems.


The difference between you and I, though, is the fact that while I may
concede that specific problems that you might mention do exist, I would
still have those relationships but being extra careful to avoid those
specific problems. The reason is I am already very aware of the real
problems for the child later in life caused from NOT having pleasant
sexual experiences during the formative years.


In other words, Jennie would probably make an excellent parent but guess
what, she wouldn't raise her children according to YOUR standards. And
of course the real test is: will those children when they grow up also
want to raise their own children that way too?


DonQuixote169 at Yahoo dot Com
also on Yahoo IM as DonQuixote169


There is no room in bobandcarole's tiny, close mind for free thought or
others' views.

I have no room for men that sodomize children
I do have a bullet with their name on it...



bobandcarole, July 9th 07 01:01 PM

Pedophilia: When Is a Difference a Disorder?
 
On Jul 8, 3:04?pm, (XXX) wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
On Jul 6, 4:21?pm, (XXX) wrote:
Don Quixote wrote:
bobandcarole wrote:
On Jul 5, 2:02?pm, Jennie wrote:
On 2 Jul, 02:18, (XXX) wrote:


Finally, a word about children. When a person with pedophilia
interacts with a child sexually, he has done wrong. He may, or
may not, have caused harm.
If a boy is desperate for sex, and at a certain age all young boys
are desperate for sex, it is surely wrong for his mother to refuse
sexual contact.


Jennie


I hope you are not a Parent.


Your (bobandcarole's) mistake in logic and judgment, is that you put
too much importance on others fitting in with your own values and
culture (i.e. those of the Politically Correct Majority). For
example, on another thread you stated that a particular adult child
sexual relationship was "Wrong", while in fact it is only wrong if
one of the two participants then or later believe it was wrong. It
is not automatically wrong simply because it doesn't fit into your
view of "Normal".


If instead your argument was "there will surly be major problems that
can best be avoided by not ever having such a relationship" then you
might have a defendable position, and we could have a reasonable
discussion as to the potential problems.


The difference between you and I, though, is the fact that while I
may concede that specific problems that you might mention do exist, I
would still have those relationships but being extra careful to avoid
those specific problems. The reason is I am already very aware of
the real problems for the child later in life caused from NOT having
pleasant sexual experiences during the formative years.


In other words, Jennie would probably make an excellent parent but
guess what, she wouldn't raise her children according to YOUR
standards. And of course the real test is: will those children when
they grow up also want to raise their own children that way too?


DonQuixote169 at Yahoo dot Com
also on Yahoo IM as DonQuixote169


There is no room in bobandcarole's tiny, close mind for free thought or
others' views.

I have no room for men that sodomize children
I do have a bullet with their name on it...


Really? And what is my name?


Pick one, they all fit you to a tee:
pedophile
****bag
turd with eyes
kiddie****er
deviant
pervert





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