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ªºªandcarole[_3_] December 29th 07 05:49 PM

tynk will swallow Karim Ikram Al Sheikh
 
On Dec 28, 12:59�pm, Karim Ikram Al Sheikh
wrote:
Australian and UK views that felt some obligation
: from the 1947 UKUSA treaty (dealing with interchange of intelligence).
:
: With a vast majority the US was cornered completely, and had to accept
: the international views. And actually adopted those as well. �EFF, EPIC and
: other US organizations were delighted to see the formal US views barred,
: but expressed their concern on the development of alternate political
: pressure that would cause the same effects.
:
: As time went by that was indeed what the US did, and up to now with minor
: success.
:
: Bertil Fortrie
: Internet Security Review
: ==

There it is yet again: "anytime, anywhere", and "UKUSA".

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Netscape and other companies
--- the U.S. is a world leading producer of software technology --- are
having their products outlawed for world-wide distribution because of
ECHELON.

Ubiquitous full-strength crypto --- in all our email products and web
browsers --- would immediately begin to lessen ECHELON's ability to
spy in such a massive dragnet fashion.

There is an ugly implication to ECHELON being the reason Netscape and company
are being held hostage by the NSA.

� �"Only with a court authorized warrant..." --- Louis Freeh, FBI Director

Louis Freeh is lying.

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Is that you, tynk?

Tynk[_4_] December 29th 07 07:32 PM

tynk will swallow Karim Ikram Al Sheikh
 
On Dec 29, 11:49Â*am, "ªºªandcarole" wrote:
On Dec 28, 12:59�pm, Karim Ikram Al Sheikh
wrote:



Australian and UK views that felt some obligation
: from the 1947 UKUSA treaty (dealing with interchange of intelligence).
:
: With a vast majority the US was cornered completely, and had to accept
: the international views. And actually adopted those as well. �EFF, EPIC and
: other US organizations were delighted to see the formal US views barred,
: but expressed their concern on the development of alternate political
: pressure that would cause the same effects.
:
: As time went by that was indeed what the US did, and up to now with minor
: success.
:
: Bertil Fortrie
: Internet Security Review
: ==


There it is yet again: "anytime, anywhere", and "UKUSA".


There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Netscape and other companies
--- the U.S. is a world leading producer of software technology --- are
having their products outlawed for world-wide distribution because of
ECHELON.


Ubiquitous full-strength crypto --- in all our email products and web
browsers --- would immediately begin to lessen ECHELON's ability to
spy in such a massive dragnet fashion.


There is an ugly implication to ECHELON being the reason Netscape and company
are being held hostage by the NSA.


� �"Only with a court authorized warrant..." --- Louis Freeh, FBI Director


Louis Freeh is lying.


snip

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uh huh! lol

ªºªandcarole(R)(tm)[_2_] December 31st 07 02:23 PM

tynk will swallow Karim Ikram Al Sheikh
 
On Dec 29, 2:32Â*pm, Tynk wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:49Â*am, "ªºªandcarole" wrote:





On Dec 28, 12:59�pm, Karim Ikram Al Sheikh
wrote:


Australian and UK views that felt some obligation
: from the 1947 UKUSA treaty (dealing with interchange of intelligence).
:
: With a vast majority the US was cornered completely, and had to accept
: the international views. And actually adopted those as well. �EFF, EPIC and
: other US organizations were delighted to see the formal US views barred,
: but expressed their concern on the development of alternate political
: pressure that would cause the same effects.
:
: As time went by that was indeed what the US did, and up to now with minor
: success.
:
: Bertil Fortrie
: Internet Security Review
: ==


There it is yet again: "anytime, anywhere", and "UKUSA".


There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Netscape and other companies
--- the U.S. is a world leading producer of software technology --- are
having their products outlawed for world-wide distribution because of
ECHELON.


Ubiquitous full-strength crypto --- in all our email products and web
browsers --- would immediately begin to lessen ECHELON's ability to
spy in such a massive dragnet fashion.


There is an ugly implication to ECHELON being the reason Netscape and company
are being held hostage by the NSA.


� �"Only with a court authorized warrant..." --- Louis Freeh, FBI Director


Louis Freeh is lying.


snip


Is that you, tynk?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


uh huh! lol


Be sure not to dribble....


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