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JKconey March 15th 09 03:08 PM

Angel died
 
This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like mad,
healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the smallest one
is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo catfish. Water,
temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and killed by the bigger
ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each other around. Any
thoughts?


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com



ReelMcKoi March 18th 09 01:23 AM

Angel died
 

"JKconey" wrote in message
...
This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like mad,
healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the smallest one
is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo catfish. Water,
temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and killed by the
bigger ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each other around.
Any thoughts?


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

========================================
Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make suggestions. It
can be so many things that killed your fish I couldn't even guess. That is
from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you didn't mention testing the water) to
the wrong PH (way out of line?), how often you do partial water changes etc.
Anyone reading here would need to know a lot more information before
offering truly helpful advice.
--
RM....
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö


JKconey March 18th 09 08:54 PM

Angel died
 

"ReelMcKoi" wrote in message
...

"JKconey" wrote in message
...
This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like
mad, healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the
smallest one is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo
catfish. Water, temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and
killed by the bigger ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each
other around. Any thoughts?


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

========================================
Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make suggestions.
It can be so many things that killed your fish I couldn't even guess. That
is from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you didn't mention testing the
water) to the wrong PH (way out of line?), how often you do partial water
changes etc. Anyone reading here would need to know a lot more information
before offering truly helpful advice.
--
RM....




As I said the water and temp are all fine, and so are all the other fish.
This guy showed no signs of any issues until he went south? I've never kept
angels before, so I'm wondering if it may be common for them to go after the
smallest, and kill him?

--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com



Josser March 19th 09 03:10 AM

Angel died
 
JKconey wrote:
"ReelMcKoi" wrote in message
...

"JKconey" wrote in message
...
This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating
like mad, healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden
the smallest one is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a
dead tuxedo catfish. Water, temp and such all fine. I wonder if it
was attacked and killed by the bigger ones? They are all mildly
agressive and chase each other around. Any thoughts?


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

========================================
Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make
suggestions. It can be so many things that killed your fish I
couldn't even guess. That is from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you
didn't mention testing the water) to the wrong PH (way out of
line?), how often you do partial water changes etc. Anyone reading
here would need to know a lot more information before offering truly
helpful advice. --
RM....




As I said the water and temp are all fine, and so are all the other
fish. This guy showed no signs of any issues until he went south? I've
never kept angels before, so I'm wondering if it may be common
for them to go after the smallest, and kill him?


Yes, when they pair-up to think about mating, they chase away the other
angels. The aquarium is smaller than the comfort zone for the mating pair
and the other angels have no where to go, so they get chased (stressed) to
death. Healthy angels can start mating at 6 months. 2 mating pairs can be in
a heavily planted 6 ft (2 meter) tank. But there must be thick enough
planting that they can not see each other all of the time. If one of the
females later rejects her mate in favor of the other male, she and her new
mate will kill both of the others.



ReelMcKoi March 19th 09 12:11 PM

Angel died
 

"JKconey" wrote in message
...

"ReelMcKoi" wrote in message
...

"JKconey" wrote in message
...
This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like
mad, healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the
smallest one is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo
catfish. Water, temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and
killed by the bigger ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each
other around. Any thoughts?


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

========================================
Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make suggestions.
It can be so many things that killed your fish I couldn't even guess.
That is from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you didn't mention testing the
water) to the wrong PH (way out of line?), how often you do partial water
changes etc. Anyone reading here would need to know a lot more
information before offering truly helpful advice.
--
RM....




As I said the water and temp are all fine, and so are all the other
fish. This guy showed no signs of any issues until he went south? I've
never kept angels before, so I'm wondering if it may be common for them to
go after the smallest, and kill him?


Yes, they will definitely kill the smallest and weakest, especially if two
paired off and want to breed. A mated pair must be removed or the others
removed. I stopped keeping them for just this very reason. They get along
fine as youngsters but as soon as sexual maturity hits, all hell breaks
loose.


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com


--
RM....
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö


JKconey March 20th 09 09:50 PM

Angel died
 

"ReelMcKoi" wrote in message
...
Yes, they will definitely kill the smallest and weakest, especially if two
paired off and want to breed. A mated pair must be removed or the others
removed. I stopped keeping them for just this very reason. They get along
fine as youngsters but as soon as sexual maturity hits, all hell breaks
loose.



OK thanks, that's what I suspected.


--
"Never bet on the end of the world because it's only going to happen once
and how are you going to collect?"

JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com




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