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RedForeman ©® July 6th 04 05:37 PM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spec...name=dorsigera

It looks like a krib in a way, but it's an acara.... anyone ever had one????
Give me the low down on them....

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Cichlidiot July 6th 04 08:54 PM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
"RedForeman" wrote:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spec...name=dorsigera


It looks like a krib in a way, but it's an acara.... anyone ever had one????
Give me the low down on them....


While I've never kept them, I do remember there was a talk on them in
Fishroom many years back. Here's the log:

http://www.cichlidae.com/talks/c009.php

One of the most salient points in that talk in terms of searching for info
is that the old name was Aequidens dorsigera (dorsigerus, dorsiger). And
even older, Acara dorsigera. So make sure to look for all names to
maximize info gathering. The Laetacara genus was not adopted until the mid
1980s, so if you looking in older books, use Aequidens (or Acara for even
older books). There's also general husbandry recommendations down at the
bottom of the talk. You'll have to excuse all the asides in the talk. We
were feeling frisky that day on Fishroom.

I also noticed on cichlidae.com that the dorsiger spelling is used for
their species listing under Laetacara, so also include that in any
searches. Here's their page, but it's just a pictu

http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/species.php?s=322

This fish is also similar to the flag cichlid, Laetacara curviceps. So if
you read up on that fish, it should also give you some ideas on husbandry.

RedForeman ©® July 6th 04 09:25 PM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
Great... Thanks for that... I noticed the 'acara' in the name, and had up to
3 different names so far... Thanks

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"Cichlidiot" wrote in message
...
"RedForeman" wrote:

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spec...name=dorsigera

It looks like a krib in a way, but it's an acara.... anyone ever had

one????
Give me the low down on them....


While I've never kept them, I do remember there was a talk on them in
Fishroom many years back. Here's the log:

http://www.cichlidae.com/talks/c009.php

One of the most salient points in that talk in terms of searching for info
is that the old name was Aequidens dorsigera (dorsigerus, dorsiger). And
even older, Acara dorsigera. So make sure to look for all names to
maximize info gathering. The Laetacara genus was not adopted until the mid
1980s, so if you looking in older books, use Aequidens (or Acara for even
older books). There's also general husbandry recommendations down at the
bottom of the talk. You'll have to excuse all the asides in the talk. We
were feeling frisky that day on Fishroom.

I also noticed on cichlidae.com that the dorsiger spelling is used for
their species listing under Laetacara, so also include that in any
searches. Here's their page, but it's just a pictu

http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/species.php?s=322

This fish is also similar to the flag cichlid, Laetacara curviceps. So if
you read up on that fish, it should also give you some ideas on husbandry.




Rob July 8th 04 04:28 AM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
The talk that Cichlidiot references, although *awfully* chatty, is pretty
accurate based on my experience.

I've kept both L. Curviceps and L. Dorsiger. My fave of the two is
Curviceps due to their nicer colors and slightly bolder personalities.
However, Dorsiger can also be nice. They tend to be much plainer, but when
they're in breeding form the males in particular get a really neat red to
purple throat. The base color of both Curviceps and Dorsiger darken when
they're breeding to be almost black. Both species need to be comfortable in
your tank to show their best color and behavior, and then they're great
little guys.

They thrive in a heavily planted tank, and are generally really mellow
unless they're guarding eggs/fry, in which case you need enough room for
your other fish. Both I and a friend of mine have kept a pair sucessfully
in 20g well planted community tanks.

Note to RedForeman: depending on your krib's level of aggression and/or
your tank size, these guys may be spooked with kribs around, which in my
experience can be significantly more aggressive/territorial even when
they're not breeding. That's not saying that they won't do well, but I'd
watch them if you do get some just to see how the dynamics play out.

Cheers,

- Rob

"Cichlidiot" wrote in message
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"RedForeman" wrote:

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spec...name=dorsigera

It looks like a krib in a way, but it's an acara.... anyone ever had

one????
Give me the low down on them....


While I've never kept them, I do remember there was a talk on them in
Fishroom many years back. Here's the log:

http://www.cichlidae.com/talks/c009.php

One of the most salient points in that talk in terms of searching for info
is that the old name was Aequidens dorsigera (dorsigerus, dorsiger). And
even older, Acara dorsigera. So make sure to look for all names to
maximize info gathering. The Laetacara genus was not adopted until the mid
1980s, so if you looking in older books, use Aequidens (or Acara for even
older books). There's also general husbandry recommendations down at the
bottom of the talk. You'll have to excuse all the asides in the talk. We
were feeling frisky that day on Fishroom.

I also noticed on cichlidae.com that the dorsiger spelling is used for
their species listing under Laetacara, so also include that in any
searches. Here's their page, but it's just a pictu

http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/species.php?s=322

This fish is also similar to the flag cichlid, Laetacara curviceps. So if
you read up on that fish, it should also give you some ideas on husbandry.




RedForeman ©® July 8th 04 03:38 PM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
|| Note to RedForeman: depending on your krib's level of aggression
|| and/or your tank size, these guys may be spooked with kribs around,
|| which in my experience can be significantly more
|| aggressive/territorial even when they're not breeding. That's not
|| saying that they won't do well, but I'd watch them if you do get
|| some just to see how the dynamics play out.

||| This fish is also similar to the flag cichlid, Laetacara curviceps.
||| So if you read up on that fish, it should also give you some ideas
||| on husbandry.

Curviceps are more available around here, but I liked the looks of the L.
Dorsiger better... and I might just settle on the Curviceps, the L. Dorsiger
will be nearly impossible to get around here, and would cost an arm and a
leg for frieght....
What are some good dither fish for Curviceps...????

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Rob July 9th 04 07:07 AM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...

Curviceps are more available around here, but I liked the looks of the L.
Dorsiger better... and I might just settle on the Curviceps, the L.

Dorsiger
will be nearly impossible to get around here, and would cost an arm and a
leg for frieght....


To be honest, happy/healthy Dorsigers don't look much like they do in the
fancy pictures except when they're dominant and breeding. Most of the rest
of the time, they don't have much of a red/purple collar tend to be quite
bland looking compared to good quality Curviceps, which have more color all
of the time. They're still nice fish, but overall are quite plain looking
compared to their cousins.

What are some good dither fish for Curviceps...????


Hmm. I'd think that pretty much any rainbowfish that's suited to your tank
size would be good, particularly if they were smaller varieties (Praecox or
smaller). They would probably get along with most dwarf gouramis, but
paradise fish could be too aggressive to let them be comfortable. I've also
kept them with Harlequin rasboras, neon and cardinal tetras, and various
Apistogramma cichilds. My friend's 20g tank is heavily planted and has
croaking gouramis, a dwarf Indian pufferfish, a couple of Badis badis, and
some corys, and has had good success (including repeated breeding from
Curviceps).

Cheers,

- Rob



RedForeman ©® July 9th 04 03:44 PM

anyone familiar with this species??
 
|| Cheers,
||
|| - Rob

Thanks Rob.

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