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LN \(remove NOSPAM\) July 11th 03 05:29 AM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
Is it legal to take pond plants from a local pond?

I have a Pickerel weed (given to me by a friend who was thinning theirs) and
would like more. My local pond has a TON. As a matter of fact, it has more
plant life than it ever has. Starting to look clogged. Tons of water lilies
as well. Is it illegal to take plants from a pond? Do I have to pay the $ to
get them at the not so local water nursery?

I don't want to do anything illegal here, so I'm checking. Who would I ask
locally to find out for sure? I'm not sure the police would know about that
sort of thing, would they?

--
LN in S.NH



bobkiely July 11th 03 05:33 AM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
I have a feeling if you called the police to ask them they would give you
the short, quick answer, "NO".

I think you need to find out who takes care of the pond. If it is a
municipal pond like we have several here I'd try the Parks and Recreation
Department.

You're on the right track and frame of mind when you say, "Starting to look
clogged." When you call them don't simply ask if you can pull some out for
your pond but tell them that you have noticed that the Pickerel weed in that
pond looks like its out of control and you wondered if anyone would care if
you as a citizen volunteer would help thin it out before it completely takes
over the pond?

If that doesn't work, ask them for the name and phone # for the actual guy
(caretaker) who maintains the pond and just ask him if you could have some.
If he's going to be there in the near future, ask him if you could meet him
there.

This used to be so easy before the invention of lawyers. How many things
could that sentence be applied to?

Good Luck,
BK


"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Is it legal to take pond plants from a local pond?

I have a Pickerel weed (given to me by a friend who was thinning theirs)

and
would like more. My local pond has a TON. As a matter of fact, it has more
plant life than it ever has. Starting to look clogged. Tons of water

lilies
as well. Is it illegal to take plants from a pond? Do I have to pay the $

to
get them at the not so local water nursery?

I don't want to do anything illegal here, so I'm checking. Who would I ask
locally to find out for sure? I'm not sure the police would know about

that
sort of thing, would they?

--
LN in S.NH





K30a July 11th 03 06:28 AM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
go to your state webpage and find a department that looks good. You'll probably
have to call.


k30a

BenignVanilla July 11th 03 03:01 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Is it legal to take pond plants from a local pond?

I have a Pickerel weed (given to me by a friend who was thinning theirs)

and
would like more. My local pond has a TON. As a matter of fact, it has more
plant life than it ever has. Starting to look clogged. Tons of water

lilies
as well. Is it illegal to take plants from a pond? Do I have to pay the $

to
get them at the not so local water nursery?

I don't want to do anything illegal here, so I'm checking. Who would I ask
locally to find out for sure? I'm not sure the police would know about

that
sort of thing, would they?


In addition to ponding, I like to rock climb, a new passion. When I have
gone out doors to new locations, I have often called ahead to local
authorities to see it was an allowed area. Nobody ever had answers. So I
gave up and just started climbing. If it's naughty, they'll tell me, and I
will politely leave.

I would assume that if this "local" pond is not on private property, nobody
is going to bother you if you take a few plants, especially if it is
crowded. And if they do, I bet a simple polite, "I didn't think I was doing
harm." would suffice.

BV.



Wendy Kelly Budd July 11th 03 03:12 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
What's that old saying? "It's easier to receive forgiveness, than seek
permission."

--
Wendy* in N. California,

"America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense, it is the other
way around. Human rights invented America." Jimmy Carter


"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...
"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Is it legal to take pond plants from a local pond?

I have a Pickerel weed (given to me by a friend who was thinning theirs)

and
would like more. My local pond has a TON. As a matter of fact, it has

more
plant life than it ever has. Starting to look clogged. Tons of water

lilies
as well. Is it illegal to take plants from a pond? Do I have to pay the

$
to
get them at the not so local water nursery?

I don't want to do anything illegal here, so I'm checking. Who would I

ask
locally to find out for sure? I'm not sure the police would know about

that
sort of thing, would they?


In addition to ponding, I like to rock climb, a new passion. When I have
gone out doors to new locations, I have often called ahead to local
authorities to see it was an allowed area. Nobody ever had answers. So I
gave up and just started climbing. If it's naughty, they'll tell me, and I
will politely leave.

I would assume that if this "local" pond is not on private property,

nobody
is going to bother you if you take a few plants, especially if it is
crowded. And if they do, I bet a simple polite, "I didn't think I was

doing
harm." would suffice.

BV.





Hank Pagel July 11th 03 04:17 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
Give yours a little time and you will be giving some to other people.
If you do take it from a wild pond you may be bringing home more than
just pickerel rush.

"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in
message ...
Is it legal to take pond plants from a local pond?

I have a Pickerel weed (given to me by a friend who was thinning

theirs) and
would like more. My local pond has a TON. As a matter of fact, it

has more
plant life than it ever has. Starting to look clogged. Tons of water

lilies
as well. Is it illegal to take plants from a pond? Do I have to pay

the $ to
get them at the not so local water nursery?

I don't want to do anything illegal here, so I'm checking. Who would

I ask
locally to find out for sure? I'm not sure the police would know

about that
sort of thing, would they?

--
LN in S.NH






K30a July 11th 03 05:14 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 

When I called my state (WA) they told me they aren't concerned about a kid and
a jar full of tadpoles. They are more concerned about someone pulling a truck
up and loading up whatever it is they seek.

Also stay away from a pond that has beavers in it. You can get very sick from
various diseases.


k30a

KenCo July 11th 03 05:26 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition)
 
"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote:

Is it legal to take pond plants from a local pond?





nope, fines avg. $500.00+ per plant if caught
on public land.

private land w/ permission is ok unless its an
endangered species.


I have a Pickerel weed (given to me by a friend who was thinning theirs) and
would like more. My local pond has a TON. As a matter of fact, it has more
plant life than it ever has. Starting to look clogged. Tons of water lilies
as well. Is it illegal to take plants from a pond? Do I have to pay the $ to
get them at the not so local water nursery?

I don't want to do anything illegal here, so I'm checking. Who would I ask
locally to find out for sure? I'm not sure the police would know about that
sort of thing, would they?

--
LN in S.NH







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Sam Hopkins July 11th 03 09:48 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition) [and frogs]
 
Nah not different answers.. Bottom line is:

* It's illegal to take anything from government own facilities however
depending where you are you'll find different levels of enforcement of the
law by the enforcement officers.

* If it's privately owned then it's always open to who owns the property.

* If it's from a different area from yours there may be bad things such as
parasites, etc that your pond life is not accustomed to.



"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Wow. So many different answers.

1. The people who live around the pond are in an association that also
controls the swimming area, so I would think that if I just talk to

someone
in that association, I'd prolly be ok, I guess. Our friend lives there, so
I'll ask him to ask around.

2. There are beavers living there. We've been swimming and kayaking in

there
for a few years and we seem fine, but would plantlife from there harm my
goldfish?

Loved reading the answers. Thanks for all the different points of view.

This
is only my second season with a pond. I am really enjoying it. It's just a
small thing, compared to what most of you have, but it seems to be

thriving.

Something odd tho, last year by this time we had about 6-7 frogs. By the

end
of the season, we had 9. This year, none. What's up with that, do you
think? We had a very cold, wet spring. Ya think that would affect things?


--
LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)





LN \(remove NOSPAM\) July 11th 03 11:04 PM

Is it legal? (plant acquisition) [and frogs]
 
Ok. Rephrase that as, a lot of different answers meaning not the same thing
said over and over. Lots of info as in... thanks for the flood of
information. :D


--
LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
Nah not different answers.. Bottom line is:

* It's illegal to take anything from government own facilities however
depending where you are you'll find different levels of enforcement of the
law by the enforcement officers.

* If it's privately owned then it's always open to who owns the property.

* If it's from a different area from yours there may be bad things such as
parasites, etc that your pond life is not accustomed to.



"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Wow. So many different answers.

1. The people who live around the pond are in an association that also
controls the swimming area, so I would think that if I just talk to

someone
in that association, I'd prolly be ok, I guess. Our friend lives there,

so
I'll ask him to ask around.

2. There are beavers living there. We've been swimming and kayaking in

there
for a few years and we seem fine, but would plantlife from there harm my
goldfish?

Loved reading the answers. Thanks for all the different points of view.

This
is only my second season with a pond. I am really enjoying it. It's just

a
small thing, compared to what most of you have, but it seems to be

thriving.

Something odd tho, last year by this time we had about 6-7 frogs. By the

end
of the season, we had 9. This year, none. What's up with that, do you
think? We had a very cold, wet spring. Ya think that would affect

things?


--
LN in NH (new gardener in zone 5)








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